Iranian mother of two to be stoned to death

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UPDATED: Monday, August 10, 2026 16:30
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Magons....

I'm not "society". I'm an individual. A singular human being. I'm a member of the largest minority group in the world.

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I didn't suggest you were a society, but rather a member of one.

BTW Largest minority in the world = oxymoron

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:

2) the eighth is cruel and unusual punishment. Magon, you're actually a brit, right, aussie notwithstanding, so you're a resident or citizen of great britain?

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No I'm an Australian citizen and Australia is a member of the Commonwealth. I'm not a citizen of the United Kingdom, I can't pass their border without a visa, and would be unable to live there unless I passed their residency requirements, a bit the same as you.

Either way, the US Constitution is not my constitution.

Additionally, I am not covered by a federal Bill of Rights. The UK one does not directly apply to me, although I guess the Westminster system uses it as its basis.

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DT, not fabricated out of whole cloth, but spun up, overblown and distorted in a way that both screams western involvement (middle eastern newsies sensationalize too, but they do so a bit differently) and in a fashion that as HAK's fingerprints all over it, starting with exactly which western news outlets it was first passed on to, touching on who translated it (and you KNOW who that is), and landing finally on the engineered american media "reaction", chapter and verse.

Kind of like how a specialist can tell you who built a bomb just by it's construction.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Magon,

The little known reality is that the bill of rights, which passed in the empire in 1689, was inherited by all colonies, and that our constitution was not the creator of said bill, but was in fact created in 1789 by the federalists to replace the articles of confederation of 1781 for the purpose of extending executive power and specifically to eradicate the bill of rights from US law. The result was the Supreme Court, whose purpose in existence is to supplant the rights of states to implement the bill of rights which the federalists were unsuccessful in striking down in the original deliberation thanks to some stalwart defenders of freedom like George Clinton, and a bunch of people who tend not to end up on currency.

So, unless your constitution says explicitly that you don't have them, you should have them.


Frem,

That's pretty much what I thought.

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middle eastern newsies sensationalize too

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Ya don't say ;)

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which western news outlets it was first passed on to, touching on who translated it (and you KNOW who that is), and landing finally on the engineered american media "reaction"

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Actually I don't. I've noticed bad farsi translations recurring in our media so I figured it was a single source but don't know who.

i also hadn't tracked that these stories all originated from the same handful of sources, that seems very likely, but I hadn't pieced it together. Often I'm reading foreign news and miss stuff like this, I should be more attentive. A map of this sort would be useful. I assume you're talking something more obscure than the usual suspects (CNN et al, and Weekly Standard/Jpost et al.)

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Kind of like how a specialist can tell you who built a bomb just by it's construction.

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Or a random guy with access to the internet. Did you catch my detailing of the bomb a few years back... Bush held up a fragment of a bombshell and said "This is proof of Iranian involvement in Iraq, this bomb was made in Iran!" So I did a bit of googling and cross referenced and posted it all here.

It took me 15 minutes to find out the the shell was made in Wilkesbarre, PA, the device in Milan, NY, and the whole thing assembled in Texarkana, TX before being sent off to our guys in Iraq.
-Frem

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The "Rights of Englishmen" thing might depend on if Australia was denied it during the period of time they were a penal colony. They should have it, but it's not a guarantee, see also natives of India.

EDIT: Ah, they don't have one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Australia#Protection_of_r
ights

Does Canada have one? Hmm, looks like they do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Canada#Canadian_Charter_o
f_Rights_and_Freedoms

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Any nation can choose it's own "bill of rights" when it is an independent entity. Australia is an independent entity.

I disagree with capital punishment in this country because, pragmatically, it is financially stupid--takes far longer and costs more to carry out a death sentence than life in prison, and even THEN we sometimes execute the wrong person.

I don't think I fit any of those categories listed...how about "perspective, perspective, perspective"? I'm not convinced it's a run-up to war, but I'm also certain it's a useful tool to turn people against another nation. I don't know whether all the stories are true or false, but my personal experience tells me they were things that were done for centuries in that part of the world, so possible. I think America has been responsible for her own atrocities, and waterboarding is one of them; waterboarding is torture and has caused death, that puts us right up there with any country you choose to name.

The remark that they could "sing like canaries" omits the fact that it's been proven over and over again that torure does NOT result in accurate information, if any, but that other methods do. Torture is for those who are simple enough to believe it works. UN-tortued people arrested since we supposedly stopped waterboarding have sung like canaries and assisted in the apprehension of their cohorts, or so we're told. It's deliberate blindness to keep trotting that old cow out as if it were valid.

How does that make me any of those you listed? I live in a world filled with colors and greys, not only blacks and whites.

Back and forth, back and forth, and everything seems to be black or white, "America's horrible", "America's good", "Iran's horrible", "Iran's civilized". Goes nowhere.

It's an interesting story, that's about it, to me.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
signing off

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