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KELKHIL

Tuesday, September 29, 2009 7:30 PM

Reached a ripe old age with the old Pub. Out with the old and in with the new...

Belly up and pick your poisons boys and girls!

Old Pub: http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=2&t=40063&m=732514#732514

Zombie Killing, Ninja in Training Kelkhil
The Shirtless Bartender

HELL'S KITTEN

Tuesday, September 29, 2009 7:50 PM

q

AVERYFINECOMPANION

Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:28 PM

Is this considered 2nd??

I'm thinking about going to bed with Stephen King later tonight...

PHOENIXROSE

Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:39 PM

I need a headache cure. Finally had an argument with my teacher today that being told exactly what to do and how to do it is not really 'helping to find my personal creative expression' and I think she got the point, but I'm not positive. She said at one point she'd have to find me a book that would 'help me' with this 'block' I had, which is kind of funny because last night I was hanging out in Barnes&Noble (as I do) and read the beginning of quite a wonderful book by a wonderful photographer, who stressed that creativity was its own force, and that while it could be learned and cultivated, the 'rules' that some people throw around are not at all the way to do it. If I had an extra $50 I would have bought it, and maybe I should anyway, and loan it to my teacher
I'm rambling and incomprehensible, I know. I need a nap or a damn good replacement.

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STINKINGROSE

Tuesday, September 29, 2009 10:56 PM

Library copy? Way cheaper than purchasing. You can always go back and buy it some day when you're flush. Or put it on your wish list.

Yes, MsA, not even elephants stay pregnant forever. You have officially reached the state medically known as "TOBP". (Tired Of Being Pregnant) It's a good sign.

You will be two people again soon. (Still a unit, but two separate entities.)

I'm boiling water, and don't want to burn it. Pasta will go in soon. I'm cooking up a chicken fest. Chicken and mango (Indian spices) in the dutch oven with rice, baked chicken to add grapes and make salad sandwiches, and chicken and mushroom in a cream sauce for the pasta. (Big tray of chicken breast...)

Ich mochte ein bier bitte.

MSA

Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:02 PM

HUGS Rosie.. oh yes sooo soo tired of being pregnant.
yum I want to go to your house for dinner

HUGS Rose.. good job on the open dialog.. it always helps

Keklhil- I sympathize.. I've lost the will to deal with so much at this point

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

PEACEKEEPER

Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
I need a headache cure. Finally had an argument with my teacher today that being told exactly what to do and how to do it is not really 'helping to find my personal creative expression' and I think she got the point, but I'm not positive. She said at one point she'd have to find me a book that would 'help me' with this 'block' I had, which is kind of funny because last night I was hanging out in Barnes&Noble (as I do) and read the beginning of quite a wonderful book by a wonderful photographer, who stressed that creativity was its own force, and that while it could be learned and cultivated, the 'rules' that some people throw around are not at all the way to do it. If I had an extra $50 I would have bought it, and maybe I should anyway, and loan it to my teacher
I'm rambling and incomprehensible, I know. I need a nap or a damn good replacement.

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I understand that entirely.I never did get the concept of "Creative Writing Classes".If you need to be taught how to write creatively,where exactly is your own creativity?

Peacekeeper---keeping order in every verse!!!

STINKINGROSE

Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:32 PM

Yes, I can write a book report or a paper. Writing an interesting story with a plot and characters you are *supposed* to love/hate/laugh at is not an innate skill set for everyone. Style can also evade many of us. (Think of a book you hated. Case in point.)

You are the daughter of an author, and have no doubt been surrounded by good literature and immersed in quality work. It may well be true that for you, this class is a waste of time and merely fills a requisite hole in your curriculum, but the poor sap next to you may be having revelation after awakening after amazing shift of perspective.

Or not. It could just suck for everyone.

MSA

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:13 AM

or you could write a story about a genius writer unable to complete a masterpiece because the evil, jealous, stone hearted teacher won't let her...

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:25 AM

Hahaha, I heard a story of a woman who went back to college in her fifties and has been battling her teacher, who says science fiction is not literature and she can't write her science fiction story. She's doing it anyway, because the class curriculum states that as long as she shows up and turns something in, he can't fail her.
As for the designy class, I'm pretty much just going to do what I do and rely on my brilliance to carry me through, whether it's exactly what they asked me for or not

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KINGEICHOLZ

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:43 AM

Yes i know what you mean lol

Peacekeeper---keeping order in every verse!!!

GEE

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:24 PM

Hey all,

7+ hours in a car split either side of work day = tired and useless Gee, not at my best today after stupid yesterday.

I do not understand their approach to you PR, part of the act of creating is reacting to things as they change when you do them, very few people are able to plan exactly what they are going to do before hand and execute it as such or at least 18 years of playing percussion and lots of time (but not enough) writing has demonstrated this. In fact almost every time I do something that sucks major balls (rather than just not be very good) is due to me trying to fit a pre-made plan rather than working with what is happening.

I might have been looking at the con pics in other threads but of course can't comment as I don't have pics to pay tithe, nothing to see here... but might be slightly jealous, who knows...

I'd better get back to doing something at work, I'd rather being doing maths revision, I think somewhere in another time my 15 year old self is crying at the man I have become lol!

FREELANCERTEX

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:42 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by PhoenixRose: I need a headache cure. Finally had an argument with my teacher today that being told exactly what to do and how to do it is not really 'helping to find my personal creative expression' and I think she got the point, but I'm not positive. She said at one point she'd have to find me a book that would 'help me' with this 'block' I had, which is kind of funny because last night I was hanging out in Barnes&Noble (as I do) and read the beginning of quite a wonderful book by a wonderful photographer, who stressed that creativity was its own force, and that while it could be learned and cultivated, the 'rules' that some people throw around are not at all the way to do it. If I had an extra $50 I would have bought it, and maybe I should anyway, and loan it to my teacher
I'm rambling and incomprehensible, I know. I need a nap or a damn good replacement.

*hugs*

Quote:
Hahaha, I heard a story of a woman who went back to college in her fifties and has been battling her teacher, who says science fiction is not literature and she can't write her science fiction story. She's doing it anyway, because the class curriculum states that as long as she shows up and turns something in, he can't fail her.
As for the designy class, I'm pretty much just going to do what I do and rely on my brilliance to carry me through, whether it's exactly what they asked me for or not

-_- that teacher needs to die.

I have to agree with peacekeeper on the not really getting the concept of "Creative Writing Classes". My university requires one in order to have a concentration in creative writing for an English major, but most of the people who turn up are people trying to fill a gen ed or who want to see what comes out of it. But you can't really teach creativeness as a form, you're either creative or you're not (IMO). Sure if you have a good teacher it can learn you something about the creative process, but it's not going to magically make you awesome at it. And most teachers (like PR's and the anti-sci fi @_@) are kind of hypocrites for trying to teach it (in my bitter opinion of the class lol). Books can't really help you with blocks, in my experience they just have to work themselves out. Sure reading (recreational reading, not 'self help' reading) can sometimes spark something that'll help you work past it, but forcing yourself out of a block doesn't really work. Of course it's a bit hard when it's a class you need to get through. ><;;

Do you have the title for that book, PR? sounds like a smart guy ;)

*gets Gee some coffee*

barkeep, could use some of the Good Stuff myself ^_^

MSA

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:22 PM

Ok I think all of our 15 year old selves would be a bit surprised at how we've turned out ( I am excluding those of you withing 5 years of 15...just wait)

HUGS Gee

mmmmm NV is making me oatmeal:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

NICODEMUS

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:46 PM

*sits numbly in the shadows, stunned by the other shoe that took so long to drop, even if only so as to achieve greater momentum on its trajectory.*

MSA

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:53 PM

other shoe??? Are you ok Nico sweety?? HUGS

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

HELL'S KITTEN

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by freelancertex:
I have to agree with peacekeeper on the not really getting the concept of "Creative Writing Classes". My university requires one in order to have a concentration in creative writing for an English major, but most of the people who turn up are people trying to fill a gen ed or who want to see what comes out of it. But you can't really teach creativeness as a form, you're either creative or you're not (IMO).

In the university courses I took, the point was not to teach creativeness, it was to teach how to write: an explanation of imagery; an outline of various forms, techniques, and processes for consideration and comparison; further education on the various uses of language; theories on how to write for your *audience*; etc. There are huge differences between creative writing, factual writing, and technical writing, for example, hence the differentiation in the course titles. Never once, in my experience or others I know, was a "creative writing" course supposed to be about "how to be creative". As you guys say, you cannot teach creativity, but you can teach ideas to help support and foster the innate creativity. I mean, really, there are plenty of creative people out there who can't write for shit. So, based on what small bit of info I'm reading here, either you guys are misunderstanding the point of the class, or your teacher is. ((shrug))

Yeesh, I'm in a tetchy mood today.
Could have something to do with what appears to be continuous insomnia (for the past... what?... 6 years?).
Could have something to do with work.
Could be that I just forgot to wind up my cold, mechanical heart this morning. XD

Anyhoo...

...I recently bought some new hand tools and needed to take some agression out on an unsuspecting piece of brass last night.
The result is this long, thin, heavily "aged" pendant:

...which I am currently wearing at work. XD

Inspiration for the piece came from a company called LOCHER'S ( www.lochers.com) -- a company I found in issue #2 of COILHOUSE magazine ( www.coilhouse.net) -- who makes really lovely shirts and accessories. Unfortunately, they are all sold out of the shirt I wanted ( http://www.lochers.com/collection4.html). ((sigh))

NICODEMUS

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:56 PM

Got the phone bill for the last month, including most of the trip to the US. I always knew the roaming costs were going to be nasty, and considered getting a cheap pre-paid phone when I landed. Now I know for sure that's what I'll do next time.

MSA

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:13 PM

Hmm you make an excellent point HK... but you always do
6 years with insomnia??? wow you are the toughest woman ever. I've only been not sleeping for 7 months ( pregnancy has so many lovely side effects) and I'm looney tunes..

HUGS Nico.. ooooh the dreaded horrible post D*C phone bill. Last year mine was HUGE. Much sympathy sweety

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

FREELANCERTEX

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:21 PM

HK: See my teacher didn't do that. I liked him and all, he wasn't bad and his techniques for teaching were fine by me (even though at the time I hated him because he would give us ridiculous constraints and expect us to write within them, and I'm a fan of just letting loose and seeing what comes out; worked so far), but he didn't discuss theories or outlines or writing to the audience. He was a poetry guy :P lol. We did do short fiction as well, but not as much. His biggest idiom was "don't tell me, show me." I kind of wish my teacher had been focused on longer fiction, since that's what I'm more interested in. It would've been nice to have one that went along the lines of yours, HK, because mine was pretty much "here's your assignment, these are the topics. pick one, write it, bring it in, and we're all gonna critique each others' work. then you're going to revise it."

btw that pendant is awesome XD I want one.

PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by gee:
... part of the act of creating is reacting to things as they change when you do them, very few people are able to plan exactly what they are going to do before hand... almost every time I do something that sucks major balls (rather than just not be very good) is due to me trying to fit a pre-made plan rather than working with what is happening.

Heh, bingo. I find the planning process, as they describe it anyway, to be nothing but restrictive.

Also, by the photo power invested in me, I give you permission to post in pic threads without always having to have pics, though we may bug you from time to time about it

Quote:
Originally posted by freelancertex:
Books can't really help you with blocks, in my experience...

Well the 'block' she was referring to in this instance was my 'block' about doing things by hand, not a block in my creative process. Now, for my money, art done on the computer is much less stressful (yay for undo!!1!) and also comes out better than most things I can do by hand. In this class, it's being insisted I work with all kinds of materials, which isn't necessarily bad, but when I'm told I 'must' draw something, rather than being able to use the medium of computers and print, it makes me cranky. When I screw up using a pen, I cry and have to start all over again, more than likely, especially when the project is something requiring precision. Anyway, teach thinks I have an unreasonable resistance to such things, and rely too much on the computer. Um, hi? Duh? This is a course in computer graphics and I am in it for a reason. Yes, I love my computer. In an age where they exist, and in which I can do way more on one of them than I can with paint and canvas (not having that particular talent that some people really do) there's no reason for me not to use my most flexible and wunnerful tool in creating art. This is my creative process. I'm working on my eye, and seeing more and more things in more and more ways, and refining how I come up with my ideas so that maybe my process is more, I dunno, efficient, but my creative process is not a pencil. Sorry, it just isn't. For a lot of artists it is or it can be, but I like things to be a little cleaner.

Quote:
Do you have the title for that book, PR? sounds like a smart guy ;)

It's called 'Visual Poetry' and I found it in the digital photography section. Don't remember author name. I should check the library for it, indeed, but I'm not sure they would have it; the poor libraries suffer from lack of funds almost as much as I do, but maybe some caring soul in the industry has donated it.

Kitten, have I told you lately how awesome you are?

Quote:
Originally posted by freelancertex:
"don't tell me, show me."

Sound advice, actually, even if he didn't deliver it well. It's much less interesting to have something like:
Ron was an accountant. He got up every morning at six. For breakfast he had a bagel. He drove a Plymouth.
than to have something like:
The alarm went off as usual at six a.m. Ron stretched and thought how good his morning bagel would taste. Ready for work promptly at 6:30 as usual, Ron got into his Plymouth and fought traffic to the accounting office.
Both not super interesting, I know, but the point is that the details should be contained within a story, not spelled out in boring, omnisciently told snippits. Straight fact is what makes essays so boring. It's a mistake a lot of writers make. They may have a creative idea, but they talk about it rather than writing a story, which is where techniques for that kind of writing come in. Sorry if, overall, he was a bad teacher of those techniques, but I cannot fault him for drilling the 'show, don't tell' rule.

Hey, if you want some good advice on writing technique, being in the industry, etc...
[shameless plug]
http://www.amazon.com/Wild-Ink-Write-Fiction-Adults/dp/18776

FREELANCERTEX

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:07 PM

Ah drawing things by hand. I suck so much at that XD Not much of an artist, but I don't know how a book can get you past that block either, I mean, doesn't being good at drawing take practice?

Does it have to be in pen, or can you use pencil first? :P hell, even animators do that.

Re "don't tell me, show me." : yeah, and I got what he meant, because laying things out all subject-verb subject-verb is boooooooooooring, (I've edited many a peer's stories that have that issue; and you're right, someone may have a good idea, but they have trouble conveying it in an interesting manner) and I try my absolute best not to do that. I think I was one of few people in class he *didn't* say that too (fortunately). And you're absolutely right, the details should be contained within the story ^_^ 's'what makes it interesting

I wouldn't say he was a bad teacher so much as it was more or less a blind 'doing' class without any discussion on how writers convey things the way they do (i.e. technique and theory). Ya know?

*logs linkies for later as she has class*

barkeep, somethin' to get me through to 9 o'clock @_@

PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:22 PM

It can be pencil first, of course, but the tracing part with the pen doesn't always hold less potential for screwing it up, which still puts you back at the drawing board, so to speak. Sometimes I have to start all over on a computer piece, too, but usually I can just tweak it, and if I do have to start all over, there may be something in the original attempt that I can use for something else, even just a little piece, which can be perfectly copied and pasted without too much hassle.
Yes, being good at drawing takes practice. Which I have done. Really, I have. It is not my strong suit. Things come out all disproportionate and dumb-looking. Give me a camera or a computer (or both!!) over a pencil any day of the week.

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MSA

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:47 PM

HUGs Rose I sympathize.. I have fine motor impairment so I can't even draw a straight line... which is why I never draw anything:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

HELL'S KITTEN

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 9:02 PM

Hey, look! This is what I look like when I keep my opinions to myself! XD

Currently on my desk sit a cup of green tea, a cup of immune system support stuff, a can of Red Bull, and a small bottle of water. All of these things in combination are oh so yicky. XP

Hee.

GEE

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:08 PM

oohps, meant to sit down and reply to earlier message on here as didn't have time before band practice and check my fantasy team and suddenly found myself sawpping players and three roster moves later and an hour has gone by, no washing up, no reply so quick words here bed, up early tomorrow and no writing time...

I guess my advice PR would be to stick with the hand drawing as best you can and try not to get hung up on how it turns out, you've already acknowledged that it's not your favourite medium so try going with it and seeing how it goes for the experience without holding it up against your best work.

As for creative writing classes, I'm not sure about them but I am thinking that maybe after I get this damn Physics degree in urm, 6 years, I might attack an English one as didn't study past sixteen and I love writing and would like to get better at it, I'm a better reader for my attempts but think I'd be a better writer with a firmer grasp of what I'm trying to ie, more than just v basic grammer as not taught properly in this county any more and reading lots, although reading lots helps. Interesting point made by Graham Lineham (Father Ted, Black Books, The IT Crowd) on Gameswipe (BBC programme featuring fabulous Charlie Brooker) about bad wrting in lots of games (he also discussed some good examples) about how the problem with plotting and story line is caused by too many game writers watching loads of films and not reading so doing ideas and plots without the little details that make a character come to life and have a coherent personality.

PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by gee:
stick with the hand drawing as best you can and try not to get hung up on how it turns out, you've already acknowledged that it's not your favourite medium so try going with it and seeing how it goes for the experience without holding it up against your best work.

Been there, tried that, continually do not enjoy it, but thanks anyway.

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STINKINGROSE

Thursday, October 1, 2009 12:08 AM

HK- perhaps you should try drinking them one at a time?

Yay workplace fluids! I'm drinking about a bazillion times more water at the new job. (This is not hard, as I used to get through one cup of coffee in a day..)

As I walked out into the parking garage today I could have sworn I smelled winter coming.

The new Diana Gabaldon's out, and I'm waiting for a copy at the library to free up. I need to check on my favorite authors and see who's got something in the offing.
It seems like they all come out with new stuff at the same damned time, then after I glut myself I have nothing to read for three years. I know this is not actually the case, but my perception skews that way.

I'd like some whiskey to put in the cocoa I'm drinking, but I'm out. Of whiskey. Not cocoa.

MSA

Thursday, October 1, 2009 1:51 AM

* does a happy dance* Oh I feel ever so much better. My boss bought me a prenatal massage and now that the searing pain is gone walking is much nicer:)

HUGS HK... hmm I'd suggest the water. The other things will dehydrate you.

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

FREELANCERTEX

Thursday, October 1, 2009 2:33 AM

aaaw that was nice ^_^

Quote:
Originally psoted by Hell's Kitten: Currently on my desk sit a cup of green tea, a cup of immune system support stuff, a can of Red Bull, and a small bottle of water. All of these things in combination are oh so yicky. XP

O_o are you okay?

barkeep, late night refreshment and some motivation in stasis for the morning.

GEE

Thursday, October 1, 2009 10:44 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Quote:
Originally posted by gee:
stick with the hand drawing as best you can and try not to get hung up on how it turns out, you've already acknowledged that it's not your favourite medium so try going with it and seeing how it goes for the experience without holding it up against your best work.

Been there, tried that, continually do not enjoy it, but thanks anyway.

damn, that means all I've got for you is virtual green tea and sympathy, which you are more than welcome to if it's of any help.

I have a horrible headache this morning so I'm gonna hide in corner and hope work doesn't notice.

*lurks*

STINKINGROSE

Thursday, October 1, 2009 11:19 AM

Gee- you could always put a bag over your head to shield yourself and dim all the lights. See how long it takes anyone to notice. Set up a "cone of silence" and smack anyone who TALKS REAL LOUD near you.

Or just stick your head in the fish tank and get it over with.

I've had headaches that *almost* made me think death might quite possibly be a viable alternative to start considering. But then it stopped and I felt silly.

Migraines. Wacky fun!

MsA, were it not for the "prenatal" part of that post I'd be totally jealous. I feel like someone needs to grab me by the head and flip me like a sheet so that my body reaches maximum extension and makes a lovely sine wave.

Or I could just get off my arse, do some yoga and get some exercise. And put in a bathtub and take a nice hot soak for the first time in over three years. I'm tempted to rent a hotel room some day so I can use a big deep tub.

Sigh.

Well, off to work! New mistakes to learn from today!

FREELANCERTEX

Thursday, October 1, 2009 1:09 PM

I need to do the yoga thing methinks.

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Well, off to work! New mistakes to learn from today!

aaw, you sound so upbeat ^_^

*gets Gee some aspirin, or ibuprofen if allergic to aspirin*

barkeep, some wake up eats please. and coffee. an IV of that.

PHOENIXROSE

Thursday, October 1, 2009 3:14 PM

Yeeowch, those kinds of headaches are not to be trifled with. I think there should be some kind of clause that you can sleep through that sort of day.

Last week I was kicking my heavy bag and my leg slipped. My muscles freaked out and clamped tight. It hurt to walk for two days, and likely would have hurt much longer if I had no one to fix me. If my mom wasn't a CMT, I think I would have died of pain long ago.

Time to go to class. Yay.

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GEE

Thursday, October 1, 2009 3:46 PM

hey all,

fighting through day, for the first time in ages I have found myself bereft of Paracetamol, but coping, I know what SR is talking about as I do get migraines but been a while since I've suffered one.

Thanks for the offer flt but I have to avoid both Ibuprofen and Asprin thanks to drugs currently on, I swear I rattle first thing in the morning.

As for illness, what is it with people and sniffles? You haven't got effing swine flu, you've not even got flu, the fact that you're at work proves you haven't got flu. If you're at work, you have a cold.

anyway, I'm having a fun time manually archiving email from our server as users (it's a departmental shared mailbox) are incapable. Currently managed a reduction of somewhere in the region of 4.5 Gb on the exchange server, I wish I was joking.

Impressed by the sounds of kicking heavy bag PR, the only thing I kick is a football although I seem to have found my shooting boots now.

Anyway, home time, meant to wash up and revise, might sleep for a bit first, try to discover my humanity again!

FREELANCERTEX

Thursday, October 1, 2009 3:52 PM

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw ><;; that reeeeeeeeally sucks. yuck. sorry Gee.

barkeep, something to get me through classes, and some anti-anxiety to get me through Saturday. extra strength please.

SOLARFLARE

Thursday, October 1, 2009 5:02 PM

My wife suffers from cluster migraines. She's had them last for weeks at a time. It's awful. On the plus side, she's found a good migraine preventive. Only 2 migraines so far this year!

MSA

Thursday, October 1, 2009 6:46 PM

Migraine are evil...

HUGS Gee sweety I hear you ont he rattling. hmmm think maybe it's a sign?

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

FREELANCERTEX

Thursday, October 1, 2009 7:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by solarflare:
My wife suffers from cluster migraines. She's had them last for weeks at a time. It's awful. On the plus side, she's found a good migraine preventive. Only 2 migraines so far this year!

oh NOES!!!! :( poor thing. I've never had a migraine, but my mother gets them and it completely knocks her out. cluster migraines though? ooch. glad she's found a remedy though.

barkeep, it's frakin freezing in here, some sort of warm beverage to keep me from getting frostbite please ><;;

omg it's thursday. fingerprinting tomorrow!!!!!

STINKINGROSE

Thursday, October 1, 2009 9:19 PM

I've never heard of cluster migraines. I've heard of cluster headaches, which also suck, and men tend to be more prone to them vs. women getting the bulk of the migraines.

Brain go 'splodey feeling bad.

FREELANCERTEX

Friday, October 2, 2009 1:28 AM

Why do *women* get the worse of the headaches? We have so much other biological BS to deal with :P

barkeep, done with school for the week. Tomorrow is Pandorum *weekend unfortunately is drill grumblegrumble* and THEN MONDAY IS MAH BIRFDAY!!!!

MSA

Friday, October 2, 2009 2:55 AM

HUGS Rosie... so is work still good??

Baby shower today rocked... he got so many cool outfits and stuff

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

STINKINGROSE

Friday, October 2, 2009 10:40 AM

Work good. 4 week checkup today.

He will outgrow those outfits before he can wear them twice. (Peanuts are scary that way)

I remember thinking "Did this shrink in the wash?" then realizing ALL of his outfits in that size were like that. Yoiks!

HELL'S KITTEN

Friday, October 2, 2009 1:42 PM

((sigh))

I am very tired of very many things.
Not the least of which is people.

Women seem to get the "worst of the headaches" because of biology. Kinda like chicks get the "worst of breast cancer". If migraines are problematic, go to your doctor and ask him to set you up with a cardiologist to see if you have a patent foramen ovale. Interesting studies going on linking the two. Or don't. Your choice.

I'm going to go bury myself in complete un-productiveness now.

[lurk]

FREELANCERTEX

Friday, October 2, 2009 2:24 PM

aaaaaaaaaaw cheer up HK it's friday!!!!

barkeep, some getup'n'go to get me out the door for my errands. and keep that anti-anxiety in stasis for the weekend.

MSA

Friday, October 2, 2009 2:27 PM

HUGS Rosie... yeah that's why it was so nice that people bought outfits in a variety of sizes ..( teh advantage of having co-workers who have little kids) so he go some 0-3month, some 3-6, and some 6-9...YAY

Awww HUGS Hk.. I'm sorry frustration abounds... I hear there's a really nice game on cartoon network adult swim where you can kill zombie hookers.

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

NICODEMUS

Friday, October 2, 2009 3:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
((sigh))

I'm going to go bury myself in complete un-productiveness now.

[lurk]

So you'll join me in spending a few hours gazing at this week's FreakAngel's episode?

SPACEANJL

Friday, October 2, 2009 4:04 PM

MsA - Awww HUGS Hk.. I'm sorry frustration abounds... I hear there's a really nice game on cartoon network adult swim where you can kill zombie hookers.

...see what i miss when I drop out of sight for a while? All the fun stuff.

Gee, if you still feel like your eyeballs are gonna explode, do what my husband does and pinch the really good female painkillers from your missus - Feminax Xtra is a good one. You can take 'em with other painkillers, too, and if you put a little caffeine in the mix, it makes everything from your eyes up go beautifully numb for a while.

(yeah, I get migraines. I know they are subsiding once I've either been sick or had a nosebleed. Wacky fun. Not.)

edit: have stayed out of the creative discussion, because I am Not Good with criticism, but hell with it - I think you can teach people how to avoid obvious grammatical screw-ups and you can point them in the direction of how to put a plot and character together, but you can't teach creativity. And seriously, PR - I can totally see your point. If you are a photographer/digital artist, you shouldn't be forced to use a medium you aren't comfortable with.

HELL'S KITTEN

Friday, October 2, 2009 5:39 PM

Quote:
Angry Kitten: I'm going to go bury myself in complete un-productiveness now.

Nico: So you'll join me in spending a few hours gazing at this week's FreakAngel's episode?

Ooooooo, one of the only good things about Friday.

I am so full of vitriol for and disgust with people, I nearly logged in here as "hates_kitten_"..... XD Waking up angry is an indication that a vacation is needed. Desperately. Someone get me the fuck out of here.

ROXYFREEFALL

Friday, October 2, 2009 5:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
I am so full of vitriol for and disgust with people, I nearly logged in here as "hates_kitten_"..... XD Waking up angry is an indication that a vacation is needed. Desperately. Someone get me the fuck out of here.

You can come stay here. It's boring, but it's drama free... plus we have a good supply of Red Bull, Dew, Red Vines and powdered mini donuts... just sayin'... >.> *tempt tempt tempt*

It's a freezin' day, mah peoples, but I has Breaking Benjamin on Rock Band and their new CD. I am in bliss-mode. ^^ But the down part of the day is it's my last day taking care of all the kittens. Have to give up 2 to my bro and sis in law. Saaaaaaaaad. :(

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DFTBA!

AVERYFINECOMPANION

Friday, October 2, 2009 6:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by RoxyFreefall:
You can come stay here. It's boring, but it's drama free... plus we have a good supply of Red Bull, Dew, Red Vines and powdered mini donuts... just sayin'... >.> *tempt tempt tempt*

It's a freezin' day, mah peoples, but I has Breaking Benjamin on Rock Band and their new CD. I am in bliss-mode. ^^ But the down part of the day is it's my last day taking care of all the kittens. Have to give up 2 to my bro and sis in law. Saaaaaaaaad. :(

Then you bring that stuff here and the 3 of us can watch the twilight show marathon!!

Also, you should hide cute kitties! keep them all!! mwahahaha!

MSA

Friday, October 2, 2009 6:09 PM

You're always welcome here HK...we don't have a lot to do, but we do have gambling, bars, and brothels...

Oh and the spoilsports of teh world win another victory. U of Florida made the guy take down the sombie response section in their disaster preparedness website....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33130861/ns/us_news-weird_news/?GT1=43001

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

FREELANCERTEX

Friday, October 2, 2009 9:30 PM

link: aaaaaaw some people have no sense of humor @_@

Quote:
Originally posted by SpaceAnjl: If you are a photographer/digital artist, you shouldn't be forced to use a medium you aren't comfortable with.

agreed :P in any creative profession.

barkeep, much energy (aka adrenalinestuff) in stasis, eats, and brain stimulation for the writing of papers and much homework reading. Thanks ^_^

WOOT FRIDAY

STINKINGROSE

Friday, October 2, 2009 10:16 PM

Please provide linky to study?

I am both professionally and personally interested.

Also willing to host some or all of the "Great HK Transcontinental Vacating 'o9" if you need it. We've got a spare room and like company.

(I'll be working M-F, boychild is fairly good at leaving company alone until they emerge of their own accord in the am, and we've got nice Big Blue Room for avoiding or not. Plus there's some stuff to do which is not totally lame, and it's coming up on apple and wine seasons!)

Or you could just go visit Roxy and let me know and I could try making the hour and a half-or-so drive. It's not that far really.

Roxy, why haven't we met yet?!

MSA

Friday, October 2, 2009 11:11 PM

'Cause you keep not coming to D*C Rosie.. .. which you totally should do.

OK I would like to instate a maximum allowable stupidity policy... if you go past the line, you get slapped repeatedly

Example just went to pick up my contacts at walmart on the way in I pass these two middle aged women getting out of a car in the handicapped stall and one says to the other " it's so great when we borrow dad's car and can park in the handicapped."

On the way out.... I pass this woman ( easily 300+ pounds) smoking like a condemned man about to be blindfolded talking to her friend about how her doctor hasn't prescribed enough drugs to her to fix her emphasema( sp?) and he'd better do something about it.

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

STINKINGROSE

Saturday, October 3, 2009 12:17 AM

Roxie and I live less than two hours apart is what I meant, but yeah.. that too.

As for the undermedicated obese chain smoker: welcome to MY world.

HELL'S KITTEN

Saturday, October 3, 2009 12:19 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by stinkingrose:
Please provide linky to study?

I am both professionally and personally interested.

Page through these:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&fkt=718&fsdt=3775&q=migra
ine+pfo&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

and let me know if you have more questions. Keeping in mind, of course, that no physician is going to come out and definitively say one way or the other until they have a bunch more data to review and argue a bunch more.

(And the medical companies can't legally make claims until the FDA has reviewed the evidence.)

Quote:
Also willing to host some or all of the "Great HK Transcontinental Vacating 'o9" if you need it. We've got a spare room and like company.

!!!

((starts packing some of her shit for flight to Rosie's Sanctuary))

STINKINGROSE

Saturday, October 3, 2009 12:29 AM

ETA?

(Ma souer get in from Ankara today, but may only be staying one or two nights here. Mom will be staying elsewhere next week when she's in [overlapping visits! Yay!]. After that the Sanctuary is free of outside interference until Thanksgiving Day when Mom comes back for a week. No known conflicts after that until Spring.)

Just call me Dr. Magnus!

(Sanctuary. It's a .. oh nevermind..)

FREELANCERTEX

Saturday, October 3, 2009 2:34 AM

Dr Magnus?

Quote:
Originally posted by MsA: Example just went to pick up my contacts at walmart on the way in I pass these two middle aged women getting out of a car in the handicapped stall and one says to the other " it's so great when we borrow dad's car and can park in the handicapped."

see people like that all the time. annoys me and the bf both.

Quote:
On the way out.... I pass this woman ( easily 300+ pounds) smoking like a condemned man about to be blindfolded talking to her friend about how her doctor hasn't prescribed enough drugs to her to fix her emphasema( sp?) and he'd better do something about it.

*siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh*..all I can really say about that.

barkeep, off to bed (though I'd really like to be eating something atm, must get up early ><;;). some of the Good Stuff in stasis, and an order of thunderstorms please. night all.

PHOENIXROSE

Saturday, October 3, 2009 4:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SpaceAnJL:
you shouldn't be forced to use a medium you aren't comfortable with.

Booyah ^_^

Went to see 'The Invention of Lying' today. It is exceedingly clever. I expected nothing less, really, but I was pleased. The honey was also pleased, which was good since he skipped Zombieland to see it with me. (I promised to give Zombieland a try next date night. If it's funny enough I might not end up with zombie nightmares.) Anyway, that's my news.

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SPACEANJL

Saturday, October 3, 2009 8:26 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by stinkingrose:
Just call me Dr. Magnus!

hehehe - someone else watched that? 'Wold Newton' in crayon, and so bad it was fun...

Have decided to put procreating on hold, and persuaded husband that we should spend money saved on visiting US instead!! Therefore 2010 may be the year that SpaceAnJL gets to actually meet other Browncoats!!!

MSA

Saturday, October 3, 2009 4:05 PM

YAY YAY YAY Anjl visits us ...and just in time to meet the new baby:)

And trust me you don't want to travel pregnant.... but we wouldn't want you to give up a baby for us. I guess you're just delaying is all.

HUGS Rose... Zombieland is funny and far less scary than usual. Think Sean of the Dead with less scary

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

FREELANCERTEX

Saturday, October 3, 2009 9:52 PM

Barkeep, some paper-writing skillz and something for dinner eats please :)

STINKINGROSE

Sunday, October 4, 2009 3:51 AM

It's almost midnight. Why am I still so awake?!

MSA

Sunday, October 4, 2009 4:18 AM

I don't know.. did you have chocolate or caffeine??

Also is there such a thing as the baby moving too much??
He's driving me nuts. Won't stop wriggling and it keeps setting of major Braxton Hicks..

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

NICODEMUS

Sunday, October 4, 2009 6:13 AM

Is he practising his DDR skills?

STINKINGROSE

Sunday, October 4, 2009 12:10 PM

He's just happy?

He's getting buff so you'll be impressed when you see him?

He's complaining that it's getting a little cramped in there and his legs keep falling asleep and couldja call for an estimate on an addition to his room already?

Do a kick count.

You can noodle around here or other places and see what you find. I'm not sure exactly how far along you are, so I couldn't get more specific when I googled it.
http://www.babycenter.com/0_fetal-movement-feeling-your-baby-kick_2872
.bc

Any further concerns and you can always (drumroll) call your OB office. (You get the feeling that's my standard answer to everything?)

I distinctly remember a phase when I was just waiting for the alien to pop out and say hello before it ate me...

FREELANCERTEX

Sunday, October 4, 2009 12:22 PM

It's not an alien, it's a parasite :P

barkeep, another day of drill, and a rainy day at that. Somethin to get me through the day please (and once again with the procrastinating, I need movitation potion for the writing of a paper).

Happy sunday, all :P

MSA

Sunday, October 4, 2009 4:04 PM

LOl Nico

HUGS Rosie.. but your answers are ever so much fun that the doctors:) You have a better sense of humor.

Yeah he's fine just completely annoyed at the ever diminishing space.. I am taking a sleep sack to the hospital 'cause I'm pretty sure the first nurse who tries to swaddle him is going to be sorry..

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

NVGHOSTRIDER

Sunday, October 4, 2009 4:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by freelancertex:
It's not an alien, it's a parasite :P

barkeep, another day of drill, and a rainy day at that. Somethin to get me through the day please (and once again with the procrastinating, I need movitation potion for the writing of a paper).

Happy sunday, all :P

par⋅a⋅site [par-uh-sahyt]
–noun
1. an organism that lives on or in an organism of another species, known as the host, from the body of which it obtains nutriment.
2. a person who receives support, advantage, or the like, from another or others without giving any useful or proper return, as one who lives on the hospitality of others.
3. (in ancient Greece) a person who received free meals in return for amusing or impudent conversation, flattering remarks, etc.

Sound familiar doesn't IT.

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The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn

AVERYFINECOMPANION

Sunday, October 4, 2009 6:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by freelancertex:
It's not an alien, it's a parasite :P

Um, did you really call her baby a parasite!?

Even joking, that aint right. Even me who is not a fan of the little people wouldn't have the audacity to do that.

ROXYFREEFALL

Sunday, October 4, 2009 7:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by nvghostrider:
Sound familiar doesn't IT.

Best. Reply. Ever.

And FTL, why don't you go somewhere else for a while. A long while. Everyone's thinking it, I just have the balls to say it. And I don't even have balls. I'm just done with seeing your not so thought through crap.

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DFTBA!

WHIMSICALNBRAINPAN

Sunday, October 4, 2009 7:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by freelancertex:
It's not an alien, it's a parasite :P

Look you are annoying at best and clueless at the very least, but even for you this is beyond insensitive. How about growing a personality and some manners while you are at it.

I believe you owe MsA and her beautiful CHILD an apology.

NVG: Awesome response!

"Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle."

FREELANCERTEX

Sunday, October 4, 2009 10:27 PM

Holy crap, apparently no one here has seen House. And which is worse, calling it a parasite or calling it an alien? I could hardly call a human child an alien, either. SR called it (it being general, and not in reference to anyone specific) an alien and I instantly remembered a scene: "you have a parasite." "a PARASITE?????" "Oh it's no big deal, you can give it a name, dress it up, take it to play dates with other parasites..." (paraphrased) and I know eeeeeeeeeeeeveryone is gonna see this and say House was being insensitive too, and so on, since everyone seems to be in a shit-ass mood today, but I wasn't even referring to MsA. At all. Ever.
Has anyone noticed that the one person it should matter to (I haven't forgotten you, NV, I'm sorry) most hasn't replied? I will apologize to NV since I know it's his kid too, but MsA doesn't appear to be offended, or maybe she didn't see my response.

MsA, if you haven't seen it or are just noticing, and you're offended by it, I sincerely apologize. I wasn't referring to peanut, and I never meant to imply that it was referring to peanut.

I think y'all need to get a fuckin' grip. This is what I hate about written posts as opposed to conversation, it's too goddamn easy to take something in a way it wasn't meant to be taken in the least, and automatically connect it to something it was never meant to be connected to. Jesus Christ. I was thinking about something completely fucking different.

HELL'S KITTEN

Sunday, October 4, 2009 11:09 PM

Quote:
Rosie (in response to MsA speaking about her restless little boy):
I distinctly remember a phase when I was just waiting for the alien to pop out and say hello before it ate me...

FLT:
It's not an alien, it's a parasite :P

Others:
Doooood. WTF is wrong with you? Srsly. {summary by HK}

FLT:
and I know eeeeeeeeeeeeveryone is gonna see this and say House was being insensitive too, and so on, since everyone seems to be in a shit-ass mood today, but I wasn't even referring to MsA. At all. Ever. {snip, snip = space savings by HK) I think y'all need to get a fuckin' grip. This is what I hate about written posts as opposed to conversation, it's too goddamn easy to take something in a way it wasn't meant to be taken in the least, and automatically connect it to something it was never meant to be connected to. Jesus Christ. I was thinking about something completely fucking different. [/whine]

Oooooookayyyyy.....

So. Yeah. We're all supposed to realize that you were talking about an episode of HOUSE instead. Of course. It's so apparent. Obvious, even.

Now, I completely understand what you were trying to say about written word versus actual conversation, and how the two can potentially convey different meanings even though the words are the same, by way of body language, intonation, facial expression, etc. But you completely fucked the dog here, kiddo.

In context, no matter what playful lilt there was in your voice, you were following a conversation regarding MsA and her little boy. The connection was inescapable, no matter what may have going on in your mind. There is no goddamned reason everyone should have known you were talking about that one time in that one episode where Dr. House said that one thing to that one chick......

Also?

HOUSE contains approximately one billion times more awesome than all of your posts combined. So the "insensitivity" you perceive from House, in the hands of these writers, comes out as clever, witty reparte. Comparison to your post = no.

We may need to "get a fucking grip", but you sure as shit need to get a fucking clue.

Quote:
I will apologize to NV since I know it's his kid too,

So... where's the apology to NVG?

STINKINGROSE

Sunday, October 4, 2009 11:35 PM

I had referred to my own pregnancy experience and my own idiomatic train of thought.

Technically mammalian reproduction does qualify as a parasitic relationship.
It is not a symbiotic relationship as the developing fetus does not contribute to maternal health, and in fact puts great strain and demands on the female without returning anything tangible to the relationship. (Emotional well being aside in higher mammals and the eventual goal of perpetuating the maternal genetics aside.)The organisms in lichen get a better deal than mammals.

The are cute little parasites, though! Except for naked mole rats...they are at no stage in their development what I could call cute and keep a straight face.

We should, however, pause to remember that gestating humans are in a highly volatile emotional state resulting from drastic hormonal imbalance, and anyone who knows as much as MsA about making sure the bodies and evidence are never discovered really should not be baited when they are in said condition. Additionally humans tend to get very upset when you essentially call something generally considered cherubic and the embodiment of innocence a tapeworm.

I love babies, my hands reach out for them of their own volition and higher mental function ceases when I am near one.
I am aware that they are technically a very endearing ex-parasite. I am also aware of exactly what their mother went through to get them here and still cannot explain why we put ourselves through that more than once, because we KNOW BETTER the next time. Who thought mammals up, anyway?!

Let us remember that even Zoe was not immune to the schmoogie-woogies...

AVERYFINECOMPANION

Sunday, October 4, 2009 11:37 PM

Exactly what HK said. You are no fucking house, that's for god damn sure.

And stop bitching about "written posts" you seem to be the only one that has problems with it. If you noticed you are always the one fucking everything up. No one else seems to have a problem with their posts being "taken in a way that it wasn't supposed to be"

And don't try to cover it up. People were talking about a baby and you say "parasite" right after. Man up and apologize instead of making excuses like you ALWAYS DO.

FREELANCERTEX

Sunday, October 4, 2009 11:52 PM

*preps self for another tirade, but*
when the meaning of something isn't clear, but you think I might mean one thing and not something else, there is always asking. "Whoa. Are you calling MsA's baby a parasite?" response: "Oh jeez, no. I was referring to House. Sorry about that." If I'd been on at all today I would have been able to respond sooner and put this whole misunderstanding to rest before it blew up, but I haven't been near a computer so, sorry. And if anyone even noticed I did apologize, so holy crap put it to rest. I explained myself and apologized and even PM'd MsA asking her to please weigh in, even if only in another PM, and I anxiously await her response. Jesus.

I find it hard to believe I fuck up *everything* and ALWAYS make up excuses since I don't go around deliberately insulting every single person on this site. I try not to do that even accidentally but apparently I sometimes do, and I while I appreciate that being brought to my attention, the manner is a bit... I think the last time I had a tirade was because I'd had a bad day and I misread something someone else said. *familiar?* I'm not gonna leave over a misunderstanding I've already apologized for. I love this place too much and the fact that I apologized should speak to that. If I didn't care I would have said "I don't owe anybody anything. Fuck all of you, whatever."

I'm not covering anything up, I was explaining myself and what I meant. I WASN'T referring to MsA at ALL, but apparently no one believes me when I say that, and I don't know how many different ways I can say it.

But since my previous apology apparently wasn't enough:

MsA, if I offended you in any way, I am sincerely sorry, and didn't mean anything by it. I hope you believe me and I hope you forgive me.

ROXYFREEFALL

Monday, October 5, 2009 12:17 AM

*removed to be respectfully to the thread peoples. written in poor taste and out of a lot of anger*

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DFTBA!

MSA

Monday, October 5, 2009 12:19 AM

Thanks for the apology FLT, but yeah calling my baby an it and a parasite is not really a good choice even if you're kidding. Rosie's alien comment was a continuation of a long standing discussion about how when you can see the baby move it kind of looks like alien and how it feels very alien to have another human moving inside you...( again it would help you not make missteps if you read the posts more carefully)
NV was fairly offended by the idea of the baby as a parasite since it's like calling him a flatworm or something else that stems from unclean or disgusting sanitary conditions.
Also it's best to remember that if you're referring to something you might want to include that in your post
I do think you have a tendency to not pay attention to other posts and not really think through what you say so it gets you into trouble more often than anyone else.
If you're going to joke try to remember to put LOL or smile face or something to add context to your post

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

FREELANCERTEX

Monday, October 5, 2009 12:43 AM

Sorry MsA, I put the :P in lieu of the "LOL" I'll be sure to include it in the future >_<;; and the specificity of the reference, but thank you for not being *can't find the right word* --unreasonable? irrational? is the only one I can think of, but it doesn't sound right *no snarkyness intended*-- in your response, and in bringing the last bit to my attention. Yeah, sometimes I skip past posts or don't get it the first time round when I think I do, I'll try to read more carefully in those instances.

I'm very sorry you took offense to that, NV, and I know I've already said I didn't mean it that way, but I don't know what else to say. I hope we can both move past it.

Roxy (and anyone else who shares the above opinion): I had no idea anyone was having that reaction to my regular posts. If these things aren't brought up as they happen, can I really know I'm doing something wrong? I'm sorry if that's been frustrating to the regulars, but if someone doesn't say, "can you not constantly post like that?" how can I know it's an issue? Otherwise something like this happens and the person of issue gets completely blind-sided. I've seen it happen before in person, so things like clarity of communication (or feeling, perception, whichever you wish to call it) are a huge issue of interest for me. Now that I "FINALLY" know, I'll try to curb it, but I think that could have been avoided had someone said something sooner.

DANCINGNEKO

Monday, October 5, 2009 1:38 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by freelancertex:
{paraphrasing here: apologies to MsA and NV -- btw, who the hell is NV? NVG is who you an apology to.}

{paraphrasing here again: I didn't know, I'm not paying attention, et cetera, et cetra} Now that I "FINALLY" know, I'll try to curb it, but I think that could have been avoided had someone said something sooner.

FLT, I'm going to point out to you that people have been nicely telling you that for a long while now...From polite questions about your age (because folks were getting confused with the "I'm at my parent's place and I'm hungry" and "I'm at my place and my boyfriend isn't here and I'm hungry"), to other times when you have been told nicely to "deal with it like the grown-up you're supposed to be" (my paraphrasing here).
So here's my suggestion to avoid people jumping down your throat when you're quoting another show: MENTION THE SHOW BEFORE OR AFTER YOUR QUOTE (e.g. "As House would say: 'It's a parasite.'" or "It's a parasite, not an alien, according to House.") Smileys don't always cut it, 'cause not everyone understands all the different types of smileys used. And/or add a line afterwards that says either: (joking!), (kidding!), (teasing!) or some other way to let folks know you're commentary which may be taken out of context can be recognized.
A lot of us who have been here longer will point out to you that you're getting off mildly here. Please recognize that and start behaving like the adult (over 18-year old) that you're supposed to be.

HELL'S KITTEN

Monday, October 5, 2009 1:57 PM

Morning, everyone.

I think I may actually hate today more than I hated any day of last week. Brimming with hatred, I am.

How is everyone else this stupid, horrible day?

MSA

Monday, October 5, 2009 2:13 PM

HUGS HK.. sorry your day has started venomously... anything we can do?

We're cold and really wishing maternity leave started today not next week..

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

KELKHIL

Monday, October 5, 2009 2:16 PM

Morning all. Missed last week almost completely in here and after catching up a bit I am kinda glad.

<.<

>.>

You guys were almost as grumpy as I was.

(sets up a heavy bag for the Sneaky Lass in case she feels like punching something)

The weekend was horrible too. Of course cuz the Lions lost again.... Yeah. I am used to it, doesn't mean that I have to like it when they play like a real team for the first half and then fold in the second. Getting real old. Maybe they need more time doing cardio or something?

So .....
Monday Night Football....
Big.... Inner.... Turmoil?

<.<
>.>
(Hides!!!)

HELL'S KITTEN

Monday, October 5, 2009 2:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MsA:
HUGS HK.. sorry your day has started venomously... anything we can do?

Thanks, Sweetheart, I don't think there is. 8( Not right now, anyway. You just focus on being warm, happy, and healthy.

Quote:
Originally posted by Kelkhil:
Monday Night Football....
Big.... Inner.... Turmoil?

<.<
>.>
(Hides!!!)

((shrug))

((listless))

I think I need time away from Teh Internetz again, to forget about some people and how much unnecessary aggrivation they cause by just generally being lying, arrogant, egomaniacal cunts. 8(

GEE

Monday, October 5, 2009 3:09 PM

afternoon all,

wow, weekend suckage, followed by Monday hmphnurgh.

sorry to hear about your troubles HK, even more so if we lose you for a bit but you know, do what you got to do but there'll always be a bit of the bar stocked with friendly shadows, dew and wandering targets, I mean people to amuse you.

Hope you can tough it out MsA, I'm sure NvG is doing his full quota of footrubs etc so once again hoping all is well and you get your peanut in your arms as soon as healthily possible.

Hey Kel, I feel you on the football, ok so my team have been teasing me the other way this season but have two decades of consistent uselessness before and there is nothing worse than the we're about to turn a corner, oh no we're not!

Must get on, need to check spam lists, get to doctors and hopefully order power rack for garage

ROXYFREEFALL

Monday, October 5, 2009 3:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:I think I need time away from Teh Internetz again, to forget about some people and how much unnecessary aggrivation they cause by just generally being lying, arrogant, egomaniacal cunts. 8(

Noooooo, no leaving! Staying, staying is a better idea. We can make all better, because we are awesome like that.

Man, all this negativity has to stop. We're all so stressed. We need group Breakables Room time, complete with full body armor and flame throwers.

*hugs MsA and gets her a blanket, time machine and pumpkin cookies with cream cheese frosting*

*glomps Kel with mighty force*

Today is my day to play nurse. The hubby has a nasty cold. I even had to go pick him up from work. Poor guy. Gotta run out and get him more things to make sickness go away. Or, ya know, I really could play nurse and maybe that will make him feel better... bow chicka bow wow.

(yes, I said it for you. dirty minds...).

Gave up the other 2 kittens to my bro Sat. night. That was really difficult, but they love them and the one we kept, Reno, is doing very well. He's running 'round the room in a paper bag as I type this. He's such a nut.

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DFTBA!

FREELANCERTEX

Monday, October 5, 2009 4:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kelkhil: Of course cuz the Lions lost again...

*pat, pat* can't win 'em all, Kel :\ *glomp* but it is frustrating when your team isn't doing well.

Quote:
Originally posted by MsA: We're cold and really wishing maternity leave started today not next week..

*sends some of the really weird New England fall heat your way* Hang in there :) How much longer do you have to go, roundabouts? (I forgot your due-month-time frame :\ but if I remember correctly it was Novemberish?)

Roxy: And here I thought my friend's cat was the only one that got herself stuck in paper bags (then knifes her claws through the paper whenever someone touches said bag). hope the hubby feels better.

NVGHOSTRIDER

Monday, October 5, 2009 5:31 PM

Quote:
Or, ya know, I really could play nurse and maybe that will make him feel better... bow chicka bow wow. (yes, I said it for you. dirty minds...).

Exactly the reason why Roxy (and those like her) end up as some of the greatest allies ever known. Guns, gaming and girls (or guys) who know how to treat their men (or women).

Eating a two day cured BBQ pork 'wich on toasted bun with fries and ketchup with Tobasco. Gonna pitch the BBQ recipe to the honcho as a bar favorite later.

Oh yeah, Tapeheads on the DVR.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096223/

*Moshes around the house for the Dirty Minds of the board*

*Slurps on specially formulated strawberry lemonade*

Mmmm, refreshing.

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AVERYFINECOMPANION

Monday, October 5, 2009 6:42 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by nvghostrider:

Eating a two day cured BBQ pork 'wich on toasted bun with fries and ketchup with Tobasco. Gonna pitch the BBQ recipe to the honcho as a bar favorite later.

*Slurps on specially formulated strawberry lemonade*

Mmmm, refreshing.

That just sounds fantastic!!!

KELKHIL

Monday, October 5, 2009 6:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by averyfinecompanion:
Quote:
Originally posted by nvghostrider:

Eating a two day cured BBQ pork 'wich on toasted bun with fries and ketchup with Tobasco. Gonna pitch the BBQ recipe to the honcho as a bar favorite later.

*Slurps on specially formulated strawberry lemonade*

Mmmm, refreshing.

That just sounds fantastic!!!

DITTO!!!

Had to login in to get the quote and you beat me to it woman!

MMMmmm sounds sooooooo tasty!!!

:drool:

oh and

(MEGASUPERDOUBLEGLOMPofROXY&AVERY!!!)

MSA

Monday, October 5, 2009 9:02 PM

NV makes awesome ribs... slow cooked over the whole day super tender with tangy bbq sauce... YUM!!! NV

Ok 4 more days... I can survive 4 more days until maternity leave.
Now if we can just trick the baby into cooperating and staying in there til the 31st:)

HUGS Hk sweety well if you need to rant and rave... we're here and we love you

LOL Roxy my kitty had this hatred of paper bags, but bring home a cardboard box, no matter the size, he would try and squeeze in and stay ( great pic of him with just his hinder wedged into a child's shoe box

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

STINKINGROSE

Tuesday, October 6, 2009 12:26 AM

My brain is trying to come up with an amalgamation of "Devil take the hindmost" "Nike" and "hinder".

"Nike take the hindermost"?

"Fluffybutt, just do it"?

(Walks over to breakables room. Updates inventory to include full body armor (adjustable and inflammable) and flamethrowers. Cranks NIN to ear bleeding levels.)

"IN THERE! GROUP HUG!! HUTHUTHUT!!!"
(or..you know, a mosh pit..)

(really wishes there was a moshing emoticon..)

PHOENIXROSE

Tuesday, October 6, 2009 12:45 AM

This is the best I can do...

(...Also, 'inflammable' means the exact same thing as 'flammable' so unless you want to easily catch on fire, what you want is 'noncombustible' armor.)

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MSA

Tuesday, October 6, 2009 12:55 AM

I always wondered why there were two words for easily set on fire... can't we just choose one?

HUGS Rose

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

STINKINGROSE

Tuesday, October 6, 2009 1:09 AM

...BWAHAHAHAHAAAA....

(Okay, I didn't actually realize it didn't mean what I thought it meant.. but for a moment I had a vision of quite a nighttime display..)

Can I invent "unflammable"?

PHOENIXROSE

Tuesday, October 6, 2009 1:20 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by stinkingrose:
Can I invent "unflammable"?

Sure, why not

(Looking through the antonyms, 'nonflammable' would also be acceptable... I think...)

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FREELANCERTEX

Tuesday, October 6, 2009 1:45 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
This is the best I can do...

(...Also, 'inflammable' means the exact same thing as 'flammable' so unless you want to easily catch on fire, what you want is 'noncombustible' armor.)

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um, PR...*points at vidthing* what exactly is that happening? :P other than something that looks spazztastic and funny.

I've always wondered why 'inflammable' means 'flammable'. It just doesn't seem to make sense.

The bf and I are watching a National Geographic special on armored cars (custom ones, like SUVs, not like the bank ones), and it's pretty cool (especially the one with the mounted rotatable machine gun whoooooooooooa) :D just thought I'd put that out there. interesting stuff.

GEE

Tuesday, October 6, 2009 9:20 AM

*shambles into bar*

Don't shoot Kel! No zombies here just a double achilles disaster, apparently hadn't recovered as I thought I had from last week's football. Lots more ice and rehab needed it seems.

Hmmh, deja vu, typed something similar last night but internet ate it and I had to do some washing up and ice ankles. Mind you, I get proper deja vue everynow again where I'd swear I dreamed stuff before but it's always really mundane situations and never something interesting.

I have to say that NVG's BBQ ribs sound good, v hungry now.

Erm... FLT, I believe the man in PR's photo, is moshing ie nearest to a moshing emoticon, could be slam dancing of course, me, I'm always at the back watching the band or in the band so not really an expert.

trying to cultivate a loving tolerance to all mankind but not going well, there's something about users that does bad things to me and yet once upon a time I was amazingly tolerant, I think perhaps 7 years of IT has done bad things to me though.

*hobbles into corner to elevate legs and wrap ankles in ice*

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