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Originally posted by PhoenixRose: I need a headache cure. Finally had an argument with my teacher today that being told exactly what to do and how to do it is not really 'helping to find my personal creative expression' and I think she got the point, but I'm not positive. She said at one point she'd have to find me a book that would 'help me' with this 'block' I had, which is kind of funny because last night I was hanging out in Barnes&Noble (as I do) and read the beginning of quite a wonderful book by a wonderful photographer, who stressed that creativity was its own force, and that while it could be learned and cultivated, the 'rules' that some people throw around are not at all the way to do it. If I had an extra $50 I would have bought it, and maybe I should anyway, and loan it to my teacher
I'm rambling and incomprehensible, I know. I need a nap or a damn good replacement.

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*hugs*

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Hahaha, I heard a story of a woman who went back to college in her fifties and has been battling her teacher, who says science fiction is not literature and she can't write her science fiction story. She's doing it anyway, because the class curriculum states that as long as she shows up and turns something in, he can't fail her.
As for the designy class, I'm pretty much just going to do what I do and rely on my brilliance to carry me through, whether it's exactly what they asked me for or not

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-_- that teacher needs to die.

I have to agree with peacekeeper on the not really getting the concept of "Creative Writing Classes". My university requires one in order to have a concentration in creative writing for an English major, but most of the people who turn up are people trying to fill a gen ed or who want to see what comes out of it. But you can't really teach creativeness as a form, you're either creative or you're not (IMO). Sure if you have a good teacher it can learn you something about the creative process, but it's not going to magically make you awesome at it. And most teachers (like PR's and the anti-sci fi @_@) are kind of hypocrites for trying to teach it (in my bitter opinion of the class lol). Books can't really help you with blocks, in my experience they just have to work themselves out. Sure reading (recreational reading, not 'self help' reading) can sometimes spark something that'll help you work past it, but forcing yourself out of a block doesn't really work. Of course it's a bit hard when it's a class you need to get through. ><;;

Do you have the title for that book, PR? sounds like a smart guy ;)

*gets Gee some coffee*

barkeep, could use some of the Good Stuff myself ^_^

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Ok I think all of our 15 year old selves would be a bit surprised at how we've turned out ( I am excluding those of you withing 5 years of 15...just wait)

HUGS Gee

mmmmm NV is making me oatmeal:)



To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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*sits numbly in the shadows, stunned by the other shoe that took so long to drop, even if only so as to achieve greater momentum on its trajectory.*

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other shoe??? Are you ok Nico sweety?? HUGS

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Originally posted by freelancertex:
I have to agree with peacekeeper on the not really getting the concept of "Creative Writing Classes". My university requires one in order to have a concentration in creative writing for an English major, but most of the people who turn up are people trying to fill a gen ed or who want to see what comes out of it. But you can't really teach creativeness as a form, you're either creative or you're not (IMO).

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In the university courses I took, the point was not to teach creativeness, it was to teach how to write: an explanation of imagery; an outline of various forms, techniques, and processes for consideration and comparison; further education on the various uses of language; theories on how to write for your *audience*; etc. There are huge differences between creative writing, factual writing, and technical writing, for example, hence the differentiation in the course titles. Never once, in my experience or others I know, was a "creative writing" course supposed to be about "how to be creative". As you guys say, you cannot teach creativity, but you can teach ideas to help support and foster the innate creativity. I mean, really, there are plenty of creative people out there who can't write for shit. So, based on what small bit of info I'm reading here, either you guys are misunderstanding the point of the class, or your teacher is. ((shrug))

Yeesh, I'm in a tetchy mood today.
Could have something to do with what appears to be continuous insomnia (for the past... what?... 6 years?).
Could have something to do with work.
Could be that I just forgot to wind up my cold, mechanical heart this morning. XD

Anyhoo...

...I recently bought some new hand tools and needed to take some agression out on an unsuspecting piece of brass last night.
The result is this long, thin, heavily "aged" pendant:



...which I am currently wearing at work. XD

Inspiration for the piece came from a company called LOCHER'S ( www.lochers.com) -- a company I found in issue #2 of COILHOUSE magazine ( www.coilhouse.net) -- who makes really lovely shirts and accessories. Unfortunately, they are all sold out of the shirt I wanted ( http://www.lochers.com/collection4.html). ((sigh))

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Got the phone bill for the last month, including most of the trip to the US. I always knew the roaming costs were going to be nasty, and considered getting a cheap pre-paid phone when I landed. Now I know for sure that's what I'll do next time.

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Hmm you make an excellent point HK... but you always do
6 years with insomnia??? wow you are the toughest woman ever. I've only been not sleeping for 7 months ( pregnancy has so many lovely side effects) and I'm looney tunes..

HUGS Nico.. ooooh the dreaded horrible post D*C phone bill. Last year mine was HUGE. Much sympathy sweety

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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HK: See my teacher didn't do that. I liked him and all, he wasn't bad and his techniques for teaching were fine by me (even though at the time I hated him because he would give us ridiculous constraints and expect us to write within them, and I'm a fan of just letting loose and seeing what comes out; worked so far), but he didn't discuss theories or outlines or writing to the audience. He was a poetry guy :P lol. We did do short fiction as well, but not as much. His biggest idiom was "don't tell me, show me." I kind of wish my teacher had been focused on longer fiction, since that's what I'm more interested in. It would've been nice to have one that went along the lines of yours, HK, because mine was pretty much "here's your assignment, these are the topics. pick one, write it, bring it in, and we're all gonna critique each others' work. then you're going to revise it."

btw that pendant is awesome XD I want one.

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