VP Debate

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FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, October 3, 2008 1:08 AM

Here we go!

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FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, October 3, 2008 1:15 AM

little sarah is getting fiesty

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LEADB

Friday, October 3, 2008 1:17 AM

Sarah is quite the maverik; she doesn't even feel the need to answer the questions... just gonna talk about what she wants.

Well, she does have talking points. Some of the questions were interesting. Too bad they went unanswered.

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, October 3, 2008 1:19 AM

WHAT THE FUCK IS SHE SAYING

Ok I know I am stoned right now but swaaahhhh?

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FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, October 3, 2008 1:45 AM

Damn, that was a good one Sarah! Score one for her!

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KWICKO

Friday, October 3, 2008 2:11 AM

Who the hell is "Senator O'Biden"?

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FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, October 3, 2008 2:18 AM

thats the house leprechaun

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KWICKO

Friday, October 3, 2008 2:31 AM

Oh, Christ...

She just said "nucular".

She also refers to the "quote" from Ahmedinijhad to "wipe Israel from the face of the Earth" - a quote which the American interpreter says is false, and what the Iranian President SAID was that "Israel will be lost to the pages of history".

Kind of a subtle difference in the words there.

Mike

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FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, October 3, 2008 2:33 AM

I think she has done well. She still is not answering questions, but she didn't sound like a complete idiot.

I find the patronizing way she speaks really fucking annoying.

Biden is the dude man! I know he just wanted to punch her right in the face@

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KWICKO

Friday, October 3, 2008 2:34 AM

Quote:
Biden is the dude man! I know he just wanted to punch her right in the face@

Nope. He's against violence towards women. :)

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WULFENSTAR

Friday, October 3, 2008 2:47 AM

Biden blew it.

Palin stepped up and bitch slapped everyone. "..hear the message outside of the mainstream media."

Thats us, guys.

Again, Im not for either party. In that Im truly an INDEPENDANT. But damn, little momma knocked it out the park.

She is one tough MILF. lol

AURAPTOR

Friday, October 3, 2008 2:50 AM

ABC had an undecided debate meeting, split right down the middle of Kerry/ Bush voters from '04, in St.Louis. Right after the debate, first question the moderator asked " Who thought Palin won the debate ? " Well over 3/4 or as he called it " almost everyone raised their hand " thought Palin won.

Asked why ? 1st to respond, a guy, said she " talked directly TO the American people, she really connected."

That is all.

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FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, October 3, 2008 2:54 AM

Oh please, she didn't answer any of the questions. She regurgitated a bunch of crap they crammed into her. Did she sound like an idiot, no. Did she get a couple of good ones in, Yes, Did she win, No.

Just because she stepped over the absurdly low bar her own party set for her does NOT mean that she has the experience or the ability to be President of the United States, and APPARENTLY she still isn't even sure what the hell she would be doing as VP.

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AURAPTOR

Friday, October 3, 2008 3:02 AM

Hey, I saw Biden completely not answer a question and go on a rant about what the Bush administration failed to do. ( Bush isn't running for another term, which I find freakin -HILARIOUS that Biden would not understand ) However, the question was what promises which YOUR campaign has made that you think it is least likely to keep.

Biden blew it , big time.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

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RIGHTEOUS9

Friday, October 3, 2008 3:02 AM

Palin unacceptably avoided answering how Mccain is different on any issue than Bush, how he is actually planning on dealing with any of these problems, and it was no suprise that she led in with the intention of not answering questions the way Biden or the moderator wanted...leaving her room to just pull from her bullets.

She fucking freaked me out when she said that she wanted the VP to have more authority - but that is surely going to make the Xstian base she attracted to the ticket slobber all over themselves.

Saying all that, she did WAY better than I thought. She cheated forever in the first half, avoiding the questions, but the grueling coaching she's been getting certainly paid off, how it needed to.

It gave the republican spin jockeys enough to declare victory, because she didn't obviously fumble...she didn't answer things, she didn't make clear any of Mccain's ideas, but she left plausible deniability as to whether she didn't answer those questions because she wanted to talk about other things.

The base is going to be back on her big time, and all those people I was demanding to defend Palin as quality for the position of VP and possibly President, are going to come out of hiding and assert firmly that she's who they always knew she was, and that she owned.

.................

The standards she had to live up to were low...the expectations were low, so all those people tuning in to watch a meltdown had to have come away with a better opinion of her than they expected to.

The question is whether or not undecideds will be assured by her appearance that her and her ticket are actually going to help them. All she gave them was general good will and that tired line that the "democrats always raise taxes"

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, October 3, 2008 3:04 AM

Palin did not answer ANY question. So dude, do the math.

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RIGHTEOUS9

Friday, October 3, 2008 3:04 AM

actually, aurap, I give you that one...I remember it,

except that you have one detail wrong. Biden started off answering the question, but as far as I remember he only gave one example of what they'd have to change.

It was a weasel, maybe, but he did answer. He said they would slow down their aid to foreign nations.

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, October 3, 2008 3:05 AM

The whole "Your wife will be rewarded in heaven" thing creeped me the fuck out.

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RIGHTEOUS9

Friday, October 3, 2008 3:07 AM

yeah, about his wife...that was kinda ..."wow"

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, October 3, 2008 3:08 AM

and what was with the winking? What is she a used car salesman?

And were does the GOP get off using Elvis music? And one that is about sex and all!

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FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, October 3, 2008 3:11 AM

my personal favorite - the "white flag of surrender" line. That one sort of blew up in her face me thinks!

YAY now we get to hear the GOP blow smoke up her ass at her "debate party"

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GINOBIFFARONI

Friday, October 3, 2008 3:13 AM

Palin never once said " I'll have to get back to you on that "

She jumped over my expectations of her......

Lets party like its 1939

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, October 3, 2008 3:16 AM

Can someone explain to me HOW precisely McCain "knows how to win a war".

What war has he won? I mean, yeah he survived a POW camp - props to him - but WHAT WAR has he led us to victory in?

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FREMDFIRMA

Friday, October 3, 2008 3:21 AM

Quote:
She also refers to the "quote" from Ahmedinijhad to "wipe Israel from the face of the Earth" - a quote which the American interpreter says is false, and what the Iranian President SAID was that "Israel will be lost to the pages of history".

That's what you get when you go trusting MEMRI, considering it's more or less a wholly owned intelligence asset of a country known for it's hatred of all things Islamic, and a reputation for dirty deeds so long this page couldn't list em all.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article16218.htm
http://www.peacebytruth.com/main.php?Post=206&PHPSESSID=9483c597d93348
8c4d87b55a144458b8
http://bureauofcounterpropaganda.blogspot.com/2007/05/thanks-for-memri
.html

If MEMRI says the sky is blue, and the sun will rise in the east - get a second opinion before you believe it.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

FREMDFIRMA

Friday, October 3, 2008 3:35 AM

Quote:
"talked directly TO the Amerian people, she really connected."

Sure, in the same way a rapist connects with his victim.

This creepy psycho bitch has topped it for me.

Sorry folks, but at this point it's pure fucking self defense.

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, October 3, 2008 3:40 AM

It was the winking wasn't it? That shit was creepy!

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AURAPTOR

Friday, October 3, 2008 3:40 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Righteous9:

actually, aurap, I give you that one...I remember it,

except that you have one detail wrong. Biden started off answering the question, but as far as I remember he only gave one example of what they'd have to change.

It was a weasel, maybe, but he did answer. He said they would slow down their aid to foreign nations.

Roger that. He started out ok, then got so swept up in the Bash Bush routine, he lost himself. I actaully like the idea of cutting back aid to foreign nations ( as opposed to domestic ones ? )

Biden v Palin won't be confused w/ Lincoln v Douglas.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

AURAPTOR

Friday, October 3, 2008 3:46 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Quote:
"talked directly TO the Amerian people, she really connected."

Sure, in the same way a rapist connects with his victim.

This creepy psycho bitch has topped it for me.

It was an group of undecideds, and you can't take their honest opinion.

How cute is that?

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

TATERTOT

Friday, October 3, 2008 3:53 AM

I was made to watch the Vice Presidential Debate for my American Government and Economy class, and I found the whole thing painful to watch. Not that Sarah sounded stupid or anything...but she looked like she was going to cry! >.<

**Note: I'm not into politics, just wanted to say what I thought about the whole thing.**

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FREMDFIRMA

Friday, October 3, 2008 3:55 AM

It was way more than that, FMF.

Consider that in what I do, it requires observing and predicting not only the behavior of some very evil people, but people who mean well, yet in their blind devotion to what they believe will accomplish that, cause untold destruction.

It's a gestalt, you see - stance, posture, expression, word choice and selection, phrasing and cadence, all of these things and more, a thousand verbal and non verbal signals combined with what they're actually trying to say, comprising a total whole which gives me a pretty good picture of what's going on in the head of the person I am lookin at.

And frankly, that woman is a monster, she thinks she knows what's right for everyone and anyone, and damn well means to make that happen as soon as she can take enough power to do it - the fact that they don't want it doesn't even enter her calculations, and she'll class any resistance to that ideal as evil and unleash every bit of force under her control against it.

She is a naive, inexperienced crusader full of nasty, backbiting smalltown pettiness, and currently stone-blind drunk on religous fervor and the taste of political power, and no one needs me to tell em that's a damn dangerous combination when paired with a candidate whos health and will seem to be fading awful damned fast.

No way in hell, that's a nightmare waiting to happen, and if I must make pact with the Demoncrats to keep that nightmare at bay, then damn well that is what I will do, even if I hate them every bit as much.

Like I said, pure self-defense, is what it is.

-Frem

EDIT: Btw, if you choose to do a little research, that kind of eye movement is associated with facial and emotive reflex caused by trying to convey information the person expressing it does not believe - in short, the rapid eye blink/wink is a sure sign someone is lying to you deliberately.

But don't take my word on that, check for yourself, and you will find that I am correct.

Which puts a whole new factor to this, doesn't it now ?

KWICKO

Friday, October 3, 2008 3:58 AM

Honestly, I was more than a little surprised. She actually managed to speak in complete sentences!

Of course, she DID give the authority over U.S. forces in Afghanistan to a long-dead Civil War general (McClellan), but what can you do? You go to war with the army you have. Or had.

Or something like that.

All in all, in a rather unfortunate way, she won. By NOT being a complete blithering idiot on stage, she exceeded expectations by a huge margin.

She never once answered a question substantively, but any student of politics knows that no politician will ever do that, lest they be lynched.

She stuck to talking points, and sad but true, the American people vote style over substance at every single chance.

If it were a debate on issues, Biden won hands down. But on style and zingers (and creepy winks), it goes to Palin.

Mike

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KWICKO

Friday, October 3, 2008 4:00 AM

Quote:
Can someone explain to me HOW precisely McCain "knows how to win a war".

I said exactly the same thing. How the fuck does he know "how to win a war"? He's never won one. He's never served on the winning side in one. Every war he ever partook in, we lost. How's that for a chilling statistic?

Mike

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FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, October 3, 2008 4:01 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:
Can someone explain to me HOW precisely McCain "knows how to win a war".

I said exactly the same thing. How the fuck does he know "how to win a war"? He's never won one. He's never served on the winning side in one. Every war he ever partook in, we lost. How's that for a chilling statistic?

Mike

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Exactly!

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KWICKO

Friday, October 3, 2008 4:04 AM

I *DID* have to wonder what the hell she was talking about when she brought up her record on women's rights. Certainly she wasn't talking about their right to choose, because she's against that in all cases. And it wasn't about a rape victim's right to have her attacker prosecuted, because Palin signed off on charging the victim to investigate the crime.

So what "women's rights" has she defended, anyway? A woman's "right" to be a baby factory? A woman's "right" to be a rape victim, and to just lie there and enjoy it?

Perplexing...

Mike

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FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, October 3, 2008 4:07 AM

Thanks for that Frem - but damn, I could have used it ohhhhhh 21 years ago! LOL

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SIGNYM

Friday, October 3, 2008 4:18 AM

OH MY GOD!

Sarah babbled and babbled and babbled on and on and on....

The talking points were fucking ENDLESS! She sounded like she was fluffing up a high school term paper!

Oh yeah, BTW- that winking and blinking was .... eeewwwww.
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KWICKO

Friday, October 3, 2008 4:59 AM

Although she did admit that John McCain "tapped" her...

Judging by the way he was staring at her ass when he picked her as running mate, I believe he DID tap that.

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PIRATENEWS

Friday, October 3, 2008 5:49 AM

I'm still waiting for the debate to ask the 3rd party candidates a question.

MUST HOLD BREATH UNTIL...

TURNING BLUE...

I SEE A TUNNEL OF LIGHT...

IT'S BEAUTIFUL...

HI ELVIS!

RIGHTEOUS9

Friday, October 3, 2008 5:52 AM

hahaha

that was fucking funny piratenews.

I am voting obama,

but I agree, our system is broken,

there should be a more effective way of keeping third party candidates viable

OUT2THEBLACK

Friday, October 3, 2008 7:00 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by tatertot:
I was made to watch the Vice Presidential Debate for my American Government and Economy class...

**Note: I'm not into politics, just wanted to say what I thought about the whole thing.

' American Government & Economy ' ?

How WEIRD is THAT ?

Well , not weird , so much as IRONIC...

KHYRON

Friday, October 3, 2008 8:48 AM

AURaptor, you quote the ABC poll but ignore the CNN and CBS polls (which favoured Biden afterwards). Care to explain?

I think you're just smitten because she winked at you. Well ... it's true ...

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CITIZEN

Friday, October 3, 2008 10:35 AM

I read the papers, get all of my info from the papers I does.

Which papers?

You mean which papers specifically? You want names?

Oh all the papers. Yep all of them papers, the black and white ones, the funny ones, just all of them really. To define which papers I read would be doing the vast swathes of reading I do a great disservice! Lots and lots of papers, that's all you need to know.

Yeah, Sarah Palin, straight shooter.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

AURAPTOR

Friday, October 3, 2008 11:20 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Khyron:
AURaptor, you quote the ABC poll but ignore the CNN and CBS polls (which favoured Biden afterwards). Care to explain?

I think you're just smitten because she winked at you. Well ... it's true ...

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Trolls against McCain, you betcha!

I saw the ABC post debate wrap up, and knowing CNN to be what CNN is, well........

And she does have a sexy wink, doesn't she?

I think I have a crush on our next V.P.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

DEADLOCKVICTIM

Friday, October 3, 2008 12:59 PM

...think we need four more years of Dangerous Dick Cheney...

..."You betcha..."

IFILL: Governor, you mentioned a moment ago the constitution might give the vice president more power than it has in the past. Do you believe as Vice President Cheney does, that the Executive Branch does not hold complete sway over the office of the vice presidency, that it it is also a member of the Legislative Branch?

PALIN: Well, our founding fathers were very wise there in allowing through the Constitution much flexibility there in the office of the vice president. And we will do what is best for the American people in tapping into that position and ushering in an agenda that is supportive and cooperative with the president's agenda in that position. Yeah, so I do agree with him that we have a lot of flexibility in there, and we'll do what we have to do to administer very appropriately the plans that are needed for this nation. And it is my executive experience that is partly to be attributed to my pick as V.P. with McCain, not only as a governor, but earlier on as a mayor, as an oil and gas regulator, as a business owner. It is those years of experience on an executive level that will be put to good use in the White House also.

IFILL: Vice President Cheney's interpretation of the vice presidency?

BIDEN: Vice President Cheney has been the most dangerous vice president we've had probably in American history. The idea he doesn't realize that Article I of the Constitution defines the role of the vice president of the United States, that's the Executive Branch. He works in the Executive Branch. He should understand that. Everyone should understand that.

ARCLIGHT

Friday, October 3, 2008 1:03 PM

biden got PWND!!! right in front of the enemy (ifill)
didn't except anything less

oreobama, he fiddy cent white debil.

DEADLOCKVICTIM

Friday, October 3, 2008 1:06 PM

there is no question in my mind who was the most successful in the debate last night... Palin was cute... Biden was serious and won easily...

let's not have another administration who's greatest achievement is to inspire a cartoon parody on the Comedy Channel... k

DEADLOCKVICTIM

Friday, October 3, 2008 1:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
I think I have a crush on our next V.P

... and i had you pegged for a homophobe....!

AURAPTOR

Friday, October 3, 2008 1:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by deadlockvictim:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
I think I have a crush on our next V.P

... and i had you pegged for a homophobe....!

No, but it seems you have gender identity issues.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

DEADLOCKVICTIM

Friday, October 3, 2008 1:19 PM

oh, you meant Paliln.... i thought you were referring to the next vp

that would be Mr Biden

SIGNYM

Friday, October 3, 2008 1:54 PM

If I really wanted four more years of a veep who won't even ATTEMPT to provide answers to honest, serious questions, I'd vote for Cheney.

And if I wanted a good-looking vacuous person who can only stick to talking points, I'd vote for Bush.

I found Palin's dishonesty seriously off-putting.

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KWICKO

Friday, October 3, 2008 4:02 PM

Quote:

I think I have a crush on our next V.P.

You have a crush on Joe Biden?

Guess those hair plugs must be workin' for ya, don'tcha know.

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CHRISISALL

Friday, October 3, 2008 4:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by deadlockvictim:

oh, you meant Paliln.... i thought you were referring to the next vp

that would be Mr Biden

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
That was a class-A BURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOLisall

CHRISISALL

Friday, October 3, 2008 4:22 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

I think I have a crush on our next V.P.

Poor, sad little jerk, she lost, and she lost it for McCain. She came off as prepared, and she was even nice to Biden at the end, all of which earned her solid points, but she lost on content.
Biden talked too much, as usual, but at least he made sense.

Have fun with your sex-change operation now.

isall

CHRISISALL

Friday, October 3, 2008 4:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by tatertot:
I was made to watch the Vice Presidential Debate for my American Government and Economy class, and I found the whole thing painful to watch. Not that Sarah sounded stupid or anything...but she looked like she was going to cry! >.<

**Note: I'm not into politics, just wanted to say what I thought about the whole thing.**

Thanks TT, it looked like that to me too, like maybe she didn't sleep so well the night before.

OH! And the thing that got me: "..we have to win these wars.." UMMMM, how many is SHE planning to have? Iraq + Iran + Korea????

Scared Chrisisall

RUE

Friday, October 3, 2008 4:35 PM

Who Won VP Debate: A Review of Polls

by George Harris
Kansas City Star
Readers Advisory Panel 2008

Random and non-random polls for the vice presidential debate declare Biden the winner over Palin in the vice-presidential debate.

Non-random (unscientific) polls on AOL and MSNBC web sites show Biden winning 48 to 45 and 78.6 to 18.9 respectively.

Randomly selected subjects on three other polls also show Biden winning:

CNN/Opinion Research Biden 51 Palin 36
CBS Biden 46 Palin 21
Fox Biden 61 Palin 39

In the CBS poll, of the uncommitted voters, 18% now say they will vote Obama/Biden, 10% now say McCain/Palin.

Post-debate reaction seemed to agree that Governor Palin gave a good account of herself in being able to deliver prepared answers, though often not responsive to the question at hand.

Biden was able to draw on extensive experience from his long experience as a Senator.

I was surprised that Palin's charm did not work better than the poll results showed. But she likely was weighed down by Saturday Night Live parodies and interviews earlier in the week with CBS's Couric. By the time of the debate, people knew that she is not ready for the presidency and saw through her efforts to appear that she was with canned responses.

The issue from the Thursday night debate ultimately is not about Palin but about McCain's judgment in selecting someone with so little qualification for national office.

The McCain/Palin ticket will likely drop into attack gear for the remainder of the campaign in a last ditch effort to stop Obama and Biden. I think it's likely to become really ugly but hope that McCain chooses instead to recover some of his dignity as Palin did in a good effort Thursday night.

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Silence is consent.

CHRISISALL

Friday, October 3, 2008 4:47 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:

In the CBS poll, of the uncommitted voters, 18% now say they will vote Obama/Biden, 10% now say McCain/Palin.

Ruuuuuuue, you're gonna make CRAppy cry!!!!

isall

RUE

Friday, October 3, 2008 4:59 PM

You mean Saint Rap, martyr for the cause of 'truth' ? Naaaa ... he likes it. Telling himself he's right when everyone's telling him he's wrong makes him feel special inside. All heroic and misunderstood and special.

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DEADLOCKVICTIM

Friday, October 3, 2008 5:05 PM

by the way... someone picked up this scrap of paper on the way out of the Field House in the University's Athletic Complex.

DEADLOCKVICTIM

Friday, October 3, 2008 5:19 PM

oh i kid Sarah Palin... no, really..

to be honest, i kinda like her style - not the hair bun - but her seemingly genuine personality. I'm pretty sure she was a great leader in the PTA and a perfectly adequate mayor of Wasilla. It seems she even did some good things for the state of Alaska - but, it is obvious to me, and many others that she is way out of her league in presidential politics.

After the election, if she and Senator McCain are defeated, I hope she can return to Alaska and continue the job she is suited for. I wish her luck.

I doubt we've seen the last of Caribou Barbie...

oh, i kid

RUE

Friday, October 3, 2008 5:30 PM

Yeah, she was all pert and perky, I'll give you that. All two of them.

I found her patronizing.

Maybe a lot of people find a comfortable connection with someone who plays to their weaknesses. Yeah, we're all just people, I'm not smart or special just like you aren't either. But that's insulting and demeaning to me. It assumes I have no genuine concerns, or opinions, or ideas that need to be addressed. It assumes I don't know better from worse, more right from more wrong. That ALL I will respond to is some kind of redneck (I would have said white trailer-park trash) appeal.

And I found her endless repetition of talking points insulting.

Well, at least we now know who her target consituency is. B/c believe me, her performance was not accidental.

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HERO

Friday, October 3, 2008 5:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Who the hell is "Senator O'Biden"?

I pretty sure she was refering to "Barrack America".

H

HERO

Friday, October 3, 2008 5:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
I found her patronizing.

It grows on you. Just today I found myself saying "heck", "gosh", and "oh Golly Gee" and winking at the jury in court. Believe me...it works.

H

FREMDFIRMA

Friday, October 3, 2008 5:58 PM

Out of town on a rail, folks...

Why McCain is Leaving Michigan--and What It Means for Nov. 4
http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/ 2008/10/03/mccain-s-leaving-michigan-can-he-still-win-on-nov-4.aspx
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McCain gives up on Michigan in a major retreat
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081002/ap_on_el_pr/mccain

Despite the faux-news hoorah from our resident RightWingNuts, I haven't shaded my perceptions of the extremely frosty reception the Republicans have been getting up here in Michigan, not a bit.

And out he goes, with his tail between his legs, fleeing the well so thoroughly poisoned by DeVos and Bishop that he really didn't stand much chance in the first place.

And the hell of it is that most of that isn't even his fault - it's that of Mike Bishop and repeated, deliberate economic and political sabotage that's hurt us and hurt us as he lashes out in a typical Republican temper tantrum when he doesn't get his way, and that he pulled from Engler, not shrub.

NOBODY here has forgotten the phony Gov't Shutdown/Budget Crisis matter initially sparked when Bishop and company submitted a FAKE budget that upon after the fact inspection was shown to be a total fiction cut from whole cloth in order to force tax increases they could blame on Granholm while accusing her of mismanagement and trying to stage a recall...

But the truth of things when it all came out - we were running a surplus at the time, cause Jenny hacked out so much of their tasty pork, and they were so angry about that they hid the real budget under their seats and trashed our state, damaged our whole fuckin economy with lies, all for petty political bullshit.

And when it came to light that we had that surplus, Jenny proposed some relief from excruciating fuel prices by lightening the load of the motor fuel tax upon us.. and guess who blocked it cause they wanted their fucking pork back ?

Then McCain in the midst of that mess comes up here and makes a speech right next to Fermi, addressing pro-UAW folk who did not want it here in the first place, and still held a grudge about the near meltdown, needless to say that didn't help his case very much...

And then, there was the stake through the heart....
"McCain's decision didn't go over well with at least some Michigan Republicans.

"John McCain is our candidate," said Mike Bishop, the top-ranking Republican in the state Legislature. "We want him in Michigan. We want him to hear our issues."

Considering just how badly Bishop is hated for the shit he pulled, and just how ANGRY much of michigan is at him, Cox, Terri Land and the rest of Englers lingering legacy of sabotage and petulance, that endorsement was prettymuch the capper for any chance McCain would have ever had here to begin with.

To be fair, that wasn't much to begin with, cause that well was poisoned before he ever reached it - this state and it's people are sick to death of the GOP legacy of destruction and would vote for Beazlebub hisself just to be finally rid of the fuckers.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I got a recall effort to get rolling, cause every motherfucker who just voted to rob us is gonna get a much deserved ration of pain on every political and financial front we can deliver it with.

And if you don't get what's blown my stack, wait about 15-20 minutes... you'll know.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

WULFENSTAR

Friday, October 3, 2008 6:00 PM

Fred,

Get your people moving.

Its time to fight.

RUE

Friday, October 3, 2008 6:06 PM

'Hero'

Now how did I know you'd show up waving your banner ? Put it away. It's not appropriate for public display.

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FREMDFIRMA

Friday, October 3, 2008 6:08 PM

Like they weren't on standby with pen and keyboard in hand already, Wulf ?

We'll have 1500 signatories listed and faxed in before these fuckers sit down to dinner, and that's JUST our collective.

-F

HERO

Friday, October 3, 2008 7:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
'Hero'

Now how did I know you'd show up waving your banner ? Put it away. It's not appropriate for public display.

Golly...

H

KWICKO

Friday, October 3, 2008 9:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Hero:
Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Who the hell is "Senator O'Biden"?

I pretty sure she was refering to "Barrack America".

H

Who? Sarah Pawlenty?

This world is a comedy for those who think, and a tragedy for those who feel.

Trolls Against McCain!

KHYRON

Friday, October 3, 2008 9:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
Fox Biden 61 Palin 39

Ffs AURaptor, even Fox News thinks Biden won! Oh wait, they must also be in the tank for Obama!

By the way, I'm not surprised to hear that you have a crush on Palin, I bet since you realized that she's basically George Bush with lipstick and a skirt, you've been in a state of permanent horniness. Am I right?

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Trolls against McCain, you betcha!

KHYRON

Wednesday, November 5, 2008 8:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
I think I have a crush on our next V.P.

Bump.

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McCain/Palin: The first presidential ticket that features two candidates who have both been found to have violated ethics standards.

ASARIAN

Wednesday, November 5, 2008 9:31 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:

my personal favorite - the "white flag of surrender" line. That one sort of blew up in her face me thinks!

Indeed. That particular patriot-card she played out so transparently, that folks, both left and right, could easily spot it for what it was.

For me, it was actually an earlier interview, in which hockey-mom was asked what news-papers she reads. And she couldn't mention a single one. All she managed to say was something lame, like she pretty much reads anything that comes along, whatever. Yeah, right.

And then I see peeps here post pamflettes, portraying Obama as an elitist. It's a pretty sad state of affairs, ain' it, when being virtually illiterate is cheered upon, and actually having enjoyed a decent education makes you an elitist.

--
"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam

FREMDFIRMA

Wednesday, November 5, 2008 10:56 AM

Oh the buuuurn, that was mean, Khryon...

But oh so deserved.

So, is Rap drooling all over Joe ?
Really, we DONT wanna know!

-F

KWICKO

Wednesday, November 5, 2008 12:56 PM

Quote:
It's a pretty sad state of affairs, ain' it, when being virtually illiterate is cheered upon, and actually having enjoyed a decent education makes you an elitist.

That's what I've never understood about "mob rule" - you get these true dolts into power, who actively despise ANY form of intellectual pursuit or quest for greater knowledge, the mob goes right along with them, and the cycle brings the system crashing down upon itself, because now there's no one at the top who's capable of running things, or even figuring out HOW to run things.

We've just witnessed exactly that with McCain's campaign. The Rovian purge of intellectuals from the Republican Party is complete, and it left them ill-suited to fight a national campaign.

Now they have to rebuild, from the ground up. Let's hope there's no room in the "big tent" for the likes of Sarah Palin.

Mike

FREMDFIRMA

Wednesday, November 5, 2008 4:31 PM

Speakin o which, I bet she's in for an awfully "frosty" reception when she returns to Alaska, a lotta feathers got ruffled while she was tryin to scramble up the ladder, and some folk even got stepped on...

And from what I hear, Alaskans hold a grudge worse than Michiganders do.

-F