We tortured some folks
POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Sunday, June 1, 2025 14:38
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Pelosi, Dems 'fully aware' of CIA interrogation techniques, says former agency official -
That WAS your point. As for evidence...
The man who oversaw the controversial CIA interrogation program said Sunday that Rep. Nancy Pelosi was “fully aware,” of the methods used against militants ... Pelosi and other Democrats have denied Rodriguez' claims...
He said ... she said.
How is it even possible that dedicated party hacks intent on fabricating a report can decide first what the conclusions of their biased and unbalanced novella will be and then cherry-pick selected communique and memos among professionals, while avoiding any information directly from or interviews with said professionals or their superiors, or their agency heads or liaisons within the Congress or White House, and be able to result in the exact same conclusion that they started with the assumption of?
How can it beeeeeeeee?
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How can you possibly be any more obtuse, delusion and incoherent?
How can it beeeeeeeee?
SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.
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I can tell - you are SO interested in facts you bother to look them up so that you know your comments are well-grounded. That level of interest in facts shows in ALL your posts. Yes, that's snark, okaaay cupcake?
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Wow, against all odds, you wandered into a fact, swerving into the truth. I did miss an "a" in the spelling of MacGruber.
Or maybe you can stumble off and join ZIT and little rappy in a nice warm bagel ... with cream on it.
SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
"McGruber"
You got the name wrong. But, yeah, that's about your level of knowledge.
Wow, against all odds, you wandered into a fact, swerving into the truth. I did miss an "a" in the spelling of MacGruber. Sorry to confuse you.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1470023/
Regarding the ACA schlickengruber, I believe I was the first on this board to post about Jonathon Gruber. Try to keep up, okaaay cupcake?
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=58806
" Dieter Von Cunth "
*snort*
I see what you did there, even if it wasn't your intent.
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Are you calling rapJSF a failure?
SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
In a sideways note, there are people here who apparently think I don't know about weapons in the American Revolutionary War. I take a clue from Francis Scott Keyes, who wrote about
bombs bursting in air
The man's name was Francis Scott Key, not Keyes.
He wrote the "bombs bursting in air" line during the shelling of Fort McHenry in the War Of 1812, not the Revolutionary War.
We all know you're a complete idiot, but this latest from you is really too much stupidity for one person.
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Well, I actually looked up the use of "bombs" in the Revolutionary War before I posted. That's why I said i took a CLUE from FS Key (sorry for the mangled name), but that's not where I got my INFORMATION.
I originally went here:
http://www.americanrevolution.org/artillery.php
But although it implies that howizters and mortars firing exploding shells (bombs) were used in the Revolutionary War, it didn't exactly say so. I found much more information here:
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Revolutionary War Artillery
Cannon, mortars and howitzers made up the three types of artillery used at Yorktown by the Americans, French and British.
Cannon included both field guns, which were lightweight, mobile pieces and heavy siege guns which had limited mobility. Field guns, firing solid shot, grapeshot and canister in a fairly flat trajectory, could tear large holes in the enemy’s infantry ranks. Siege cannon fired solid shot, destroying fortifications and buildings. Against ships, cannon crews utilized hot shot, a superheated cannon ball that could set a ship on fire; and bar shot and chain shot, (two halves of a cannon ball attached by either a bar or chain) that could pull down a ship’s mast and rigging.
Mortar
Mortars differed from cannon in both appearance and firing principles. A mortar was mounted on a flat bed, resembling a large block of wood. An elevating wedge raised the barrel, enabling the mortar to fire an exploding shell, called a "bomb," in a high trajectory. Fired properly, the bomb would fly over earthworks and explode while still airborne, raining shrapnel over the enemy
The howitzer combined the principles of both the cannon and the mortar. Mounted on a field carriage, the howitzer fired both bombs and cannon balls at a flat or high trajectory.
Howitzer
The size of the mortar and howitzer was designated by the width of the bore. Eight, ten, 12 and 13-inch mortars and howitzers were used at Yorktown.
... The British surrendered at Yorktown 244 artillery pieces of mainly lightweight field cannon. These had been ineffective against the enemy’s earthworks. While General Washington’s forces had considerably fewer pieces— approximately 131— it was their superior number of siege guns and their skilled gun crews, such as Colonel Lamb’s Artillery, that made the difference.
http://www.nps.gov/york/historyculture/revolutionary-war-artillery.htm
My god, JSS, were you so anxious to prove me wrong that you couldn't even stop to do a little fact checking???
Apparently!
So there you are, with egg on your face. Again.
I expect to see a picture of a pig now, or something equally gratuitous. It's what you're so well known for. I'd be completely surprised if you actually had anything interesting to say on topic. [/disdain]
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns. King George couldn't!
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Does anyone recall torture and Adelai Niska?
The fact is that Mal wasn't really harmed by Niska. Simon and a dermal mender put Mal's ear back where it belonged. Why was Mal angry at Niska? Mal didn't even die because Niska restarted Mal's heart. So why make a big deal about nothing?
Would Mal respect Cheney's position on Enhanced Interrogation? Or would Mal just take unreasonable offense at perfectly lawful methods that were no worse than Niska's, taking into account 500 years worth of advances in emergency medical treatment.
Niska killed none of Mal's crew, but Mal killed Niska's henchmen. Doesn't that mean Mal was in the wrong and Niska in the right?
http://mrechs.deviantart.com/art/Misbehave-500059711 
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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second - you're losing it. No comparison to a FICTIONAL event where the story involved PUNISHING Mal , for the sadistic sake of MAKING HIM FEEL PAIN, which is exactly NOT what we did, w/ the terrorists.
Please, don't get stuck on stupid.
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Well, if you already have the information then why WOULD you torture terrorists, if not for sadistic pleasure? (Sadistic pleasure - something I think you know quite a bit about, given the rape fantasy you so freely shared.)
SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.
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