We tortured some folks
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Quote:I think you are deeply mistaken about the purpose of pain during Enhanced Interrogation. Quite apparently, Mal's pain did not rise to a level that mentally broke him down. Obviously Niska and his henchman were going easier on Mal than Cheney's henchmen on their prisoners, who did break down. I think you should have noted that critical difference.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
second - you're losing it. No comparison to a FICTIONAL event where the story involved PUNISHING Mal , for the sadistic sake of MAKING HIM FEEL PAIN, which is exactly NOT what we did, w/ the terrorists.
Please, don't get stuck on stupid.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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No second, YOU are completely mistaken.
There was NOTHING Mal could have done to keep Niska from torturing, killing , reviving and then repeating, until Niska grew weary of the game.
This is exactly NOT what took place in Gitmo.
Unfuckingbelievable that anyone can so mistakenly compare 1 FICTIONAL event to a very real world scenario which involved keeping very real world people ALIVE and safe from terrorist attack.
Mal wasn't planning on attacking Niska or anyone.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Well, if you already have the information then why WOULD you torture terrorists, if not for sadistic pleasure? (Sadistic pleasure - something I think you know quite a bit about, given the rape fantasy you so freely shared.)
kiki - you're crossing the line there, as I've never shared ANY " rape fantasy " what so ever.
I don't give a flip about what differences of opinion we have, but when you falsely accuse anyone of rape, or rape fantasies, that's complete b.s. You take that back, if there's an micron of truth and decency in you.
You ask if we have the info, why continue with EIT ?
There IS no reason. If info is offered up, that's legit, then there's no EIT in the first place. You paint a false scenario , simply to promote your false propaganda.
( shocker, I know )
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Quote:Why do you think Cheney's henchmen would stop Enhanced Interrogation on the word of the prisoner? The prisoner saying "I yield" and the Interrogation ends? That is not how Cheney's henchmen conducted an Interrogation.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
No second, YOU are completely mistaken.
There was NOTHING Mal could have done to keep Niska from torturing, killing , reviving and then repeating, until Niska grew weary of the game.
This is exactly NOT what took place in Gitmo.
Unfuckingbelievable that anyone can so mistakenly compare 1 FICTIONAL event to a very real world scenario which involved keeping very real world people ALIVE and safe from terrorist attack.
Mal wasn't planning on attacking Niska or anyone.
You're using Cheney-style rhetoric when you imply that the Interrogation ends when the prisoner convinces the Interrogator that "real world people are safe from terrorist attack." That's not how any Enhanced Interrogation ended.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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SECOND !!!
God dammit ! Cheney wasn't President ! HE DIDN'T DO A GOD DAMN THING WRONG !
And stop saying his " henchmen ". Cheney HAD NO HENCHMEN !!!
Good effing god! You children do parrot on your lies over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over...
kiki - you've wasted 1 post with no apology.
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Quote:And I thought he was the Vice-President of the United States, only a heartbeat away from being President. Are you claiming Cheney was "not worth a bucket of warm piss"? That is a colorful phrase used by John Nance Garner, Vice-President. You might be right about Cheney's personality, but he had real power in the White House.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
SECOND !!!
God dammit ! Cheney wasn't President ! HE DIDN'T DO A GOD DAMN THING WRONG !
And stop saying his " henchmen ". Cheney HAD NO HENCHMEN !!!
Good effing god! You children do parrot on your lies over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over...
I forgot to say that Cheney is on TV defending torture because his fingerprints are all over the Enhanced Interrogation policy of the Bush White House. He is defending his own work.
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He's not defending torture because there was no torture for him to defend.
Ever think of Joe Biden as " having so much power " ??
Funny thought, but scary too, if you think about it.
Joe is a ghost , save for his foot in mouth comments, yet he's in the same office as Cheney held.
What proof do you have that shows Cheney had " the real power in the WH " ???
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You don't seem to have your head around the definition of torture. Just because someone denies it's torture doesn't mean it's so.
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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
You don't seem to have your head around the definition of torture. Just because someone denies it's torture doesn't mean it's so.
Torture is attempting rational dialogue with 1kiki.
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