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Friday, October 10, 2014 11:43 PM

Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, (MK), the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. At his trial, he had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station. Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by Nelson Mandela’s MK terrorists. Here are some highlights

-Church Street West, Pretoria, on the 20 May 1983

-Amanzimtoti Shopping complex KZN, 23 December 1985

-Krugersdorp Magistrate’s Court, 17 March 1988

-Durban Pick ‘n Pay shopping complex, 1 September 1986

-Pretoria Sterland movie complex 16 April 1988 – limpet mine killed ANC terrorist M O Maponya instead

-Johannesburg Magistrate’s Court, 20 May 1987

-Roodepoort Standard Bank 3 June, 1988

Tellingly, not only did Mandela refuse to renounce violence, Amnesty (International) refused to take his case stating “[the] movement recorded that it could not give the name of ‘Prisoner of Conscience’ to anyone associated with violence, even though as in ‘conventional warfare’ a degree of restraint may be exercised.”


1/20/2017, the end of an error.

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Friday, October 10, 2014 11:58 PM

CAVETROLL- Is there a question in there? Just curious.

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KPO
Saturday, October 11, 2014 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CaveTroll:
Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by Nelson Mandela’s MK terrorists. Here are some highlights

-Church Street West, Pretoria, on the 20 May 1983

-Amanzimtoti Shopping complex KZN, 23 December 1985

-Krugersdorp Magistrate’s Court, 17 March 1988

-Durban Pick ‘n Pay shopping complex, 1 September 1986

-Pretoria Sterland movie complex 16 April 1988 – limpet mine killed ANC terrorist M O Maponya instead

-Johannesburg Magistrate’s Court, 20 May 1987

-Roodepoort Standard Bank 3 June, 1988


Some key dates to consider: 1962-1990

1962 - the year Mandela was arrested, and imprisoned
1990 - the year Mandela was released

You have given a list of terrorist acts in the 1980s - when Mandela had been in prison for over 20 years. The question specifically asked for the 'terrorist' acts Mandela committed - that he was imprisoned for. You have given a completely different list of acts, that in no way answer the question. Would you like to try again, and actually answer the question this time?

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Saturday, October 11, 2014 1:11 AM

Socky can't be bothered with facts when there's hating to do.



“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”? Isaac Asimov

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Saturday, October 11, 2014 2:36 AM

So here is a question. Anyone can answer.

If you live in a violent, oppressive state and commit or organise commit acts of violence with the intent of overthrowing aforesaid state, does that make you a terrorist?

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Saturday, October 11, 2014 2:49 AM

The Rivonia Trial occurred in 1962 and 63, I assume this is the trial referred to here:

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Originally posted by CaveTroll:
Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, (MK), the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. At his trial, he had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station.


This missive was most likely posted because some libtards cannot be bothered with looking up the information on that interweb doodad called search engine. In recent posts, libtard kpo kept mentioning that it was too difficult for them, they needed it spelled out for them.
This was not a question, Signym.
This was an answer - like the thread title says cannot exist.
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1/20/2017, the end of an error.


I had a dream the other night that the error had a heart attack, and Bite-me had already been sworn in by the time I heard the news.

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KPO
Saturday, October 11, 2014 3:31 AM

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The Rivonia Trial occurred in 1962 and 63, I assume this is the trial referred to here:

Following your advice and looking on Wikipedia, I see that the charges against Mandela do not mention 'terrorism' once - instead they mention 'guerrilla warfare' and 'sabotage'.

But apparently you guys know better. Can you give me an example of one of these 'terrorist' acts Mandela committed? Any at all?


It's not personal. It's just war.

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KPO
Saturday, October 11, 2014 3:36 AM

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
So here is a question. Anyone can answer.

If you live in a violent, oppressive state and commit or organise acts of violence with the intent of overthrowing aforesaid state, does that make you a terrorist?


There's no internationally agreed-upon definition of terrorism, but I would say it depends on whether the act of violence targeted civilians or not.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Saturday, October 11, 2014 3:55 AM

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Originally posted by kpo:
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The Rivonia Trial occurred in 1962 and 63, I assume this is the trial referred to here:

Following your advice and looking on Wikipedia, I see that the charges against Mandela do not mention 'terrorism' once - instead they mention 'guerrilla warfare' and 'sabotage'.

But apparently you guys know better. Can you give me an example of one of these 'terrorist' acts Mandela committed? Any at all?


It's not personal. It's just war.


Geurilla Warfare is against military or government targets.

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Saturday, October 11, 2014 3:57 AM

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Originally posted by kpo:
Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
So here is a question. Anyone can answer.

If you live in a violent, oppressive state and commit or organise acts of violence with the intent of overthrowing aforesaid state, does that make you a terrorist?


There's no internationally agreed-upon definition of terrorism, but I would say it depends on whether the act of violence targeted civilians or not.


So how do you claim that Mandela's targeting of civilians for violence and sabotage does not fit your definition of terrorism? Do you need the 1960 dictionary to retroactively define terrorism in more modern terms for you to be spoon-fed?

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