A new kind of Ebola?
POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 02:42
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Just as an aside, while TPTB are busy telling us how unheard-of/ unlikely it is that Ebola would mutate to an airborne form, how viruses "just don't change their mode of transmission", the fact is that one of the Ebola variants has ALREADY mutated into an airborne form, as evidenced by The Hot Zone's recounting of the Reston airborne infection of an entire monkey-house.
Yes, it was a monkey virus. But it was an Ebola variant, now called Ebola Reston. And where Ebola could mutate once, it can surely mutate again in the same fashion.
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They never proved that the Ebola in the monkey house became airborne, they assumed it an killed all the monkeys. Later they found that all the monkeys originated from the same farm.
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Some of the keepers at Reston tested positive for Ebola Reston. When the Ebola was tracked back to the Philippines some keepers tested positive there as well. How any of them might have contracted Ebola isn't known. And, it's an experiment one wouldn't run, but I've wondered if Reston might be a natural vaccine for other types of Ebola.
There was also some thought that b/c Reston used high pressure hoses to clean the cages the virus might have been spread through water aerosols.
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So Sierra Leone experimented with its 3-day shut-down starting Sep 23. It would take about 10 days to see if it accomplished anything substantial. I don't see any obvious change in trajectory in this graph:
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As i posted, it looks like the Sierra Leone 3-day shutdown didn't work.
Anyone have any facts to add to the news about international Ebola?
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One confirmed case in Spain, a nurse who treated one of the infected Spanish priests. The people in Brazil and Paris who were suspected of Ebola tested negative. There is another oddball case of a British man who traveled to Macedonia and died of fever and internal bleeding.... also drinking huge quantities of alcohol.
Anyway, the best place for official statistics is here:
http://www.who.int/csr/don/archive/disease/ebola/en/
The WHO website is impossible to navigate, and I stumbled onto this webpage by accident. Good thing I bookmarked it because I could never find it again independently!
Interesting chart, where did you find it?
The part I thought was unusual, aside from the fact that the 3-day quarantine was a bust, is that the death rate in Sierra Leone seems an awful lot lower than the other two, only about 25-30%, as opposed to about 70% in the other two. Maybe it's a flaw in how the statistics are gathered, but one of the things I wonder is whether we are now seeing two or three variations of the same strain.
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Interesting chart, where did you find it?
hey thanks for the information. The chart came from WIKI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus_epidemic_in_West_Africa
There are many reasons to die from uncontrollable hemorrhaging. Ebola isn't the only filovirus to cause hemorrhagic fever, there's the closely related Marburg virus. And filovirusus aren't the only viruses to cause hemorrhagic fever. From the CDC; 'VHFs are caused by viruses of four distinct families: arenaviruses, filoviruses, bunyaviruses, and flaviviruses.' Bunyaviruses include Hanta virus. While US strains don't cause fatal hemorrhaging, globally many strains do, including a Crimean strain. And then, hemorrhagic viruses aren't the only cause of hemorrhaging. There's things that go wrong internally, like leukemia and DIC for example.
There are some good tests to check out genetic changes to look for different strains. I would HOPE that the UN, the CDC, the Pasteur Institute and other organizations would be diligently tracking this. But, maybe not. After all, it's only Africa. I haven't looked at this closely enough for online sources to let me know if strains are being actively tracked.
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Well, I know the strain was typed at the beginning of the outbreak, and researchers have said that there is an awful lot of variation during replication, but nothing recently about whether one geographic area has evolved into something really different from elsewhere.
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What makes me think it's not being actively tracked is that there are a lot of generic statements by experts in the field regarding the potential for new strains - sloppiness of replication, the number of generations, the potential for for important drift - but no specific examples. Nothing like saying 'for example the Pasteur Institute has seen ...'
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More from ' The system worked ' file.
Following CDC instructions, worker STILL contracts Ebola!
Dallas Hospital Worker Diagnosed With Ebola, First to Catch Deadly Virus in U.S.
An employee at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital who provided care for the Ebola patient hospitalized there has been diagnosed with the virus, raising concerns that the disease could spread.
The patient, who was not identified, tested positive for Ebola in a preliminary test at the state public health laboratory in Austin, Texas, and a second analysis will be conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, the Texas Department of State Health Services said on its website today...
The infected worker was wearing protective gear and was following the full protocol for treating infected people, hospital officials said at a news conference in Dallas today. The patient has asked to remain anonymous, they said.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/dallas-hospital-worker-diagnosed-ebola-1
11124124.html
I hope this is the only one, but he came in contract w/ so many others...
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WHY WE ARE NOT READY FOR EBOLA, courtesy of Zerohedge
Because nothing says safety like hazmat suit sleeves rolled up
Power-washing infective puke from outside of the Ivy Apartments, where Thomas Duncan spewed just before he was taken to hospital
"Wearing suits" isn't enough. You need to be trained how to put them on and, especially, how to take them off without touching a contaminated surface.
The protocol for putting on a taking off full protective gear is so complicated that mistake are bound to occur. IMHO, the simpler, the better. The reason WHY they have not stayed with "simple" equipment is because it -apparently- isn't enough.
Because if the only thing you needed to prevent infection was not to touch "bodily fluids" then glove would be enough. And if the only thing you needed to prevent infection was not to touch "bodily fluids" or infected surfaces, or to breathe aerosols ejected by the patient, it seems that gloves and a mask would be enough.
But if aerosols are floating around in the room, you don't want them settling on your clothes, hence the hazamat suit. So apparently Ebola can be spread pretty effectively by fomites .... contaminated surfaces.
I wonder if anyone has ever thought to create a laminar-flow surround for isolation beds?
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