capitalism, by definition, is a stupid and foolish human system
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Quote:Wow MD, Your country is basically the U.S. with a cooler accent....
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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cartoon/2014/jun/16/first-dog
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We're the 51st state, dontya know ;?
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:You're right.
Originally posted by Geezer:Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Good spadework, 1kiki.
No links to sources, though.
1kiki, give me back the money I paid you to get answers for me; this project now gets a D-.
Just following your rules, Chris.
#8: Thou shall not lay the burden of proof on him that is questioning the claim. (Burden of proof reversal).
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Oh, and Geeze, why won't you answer her question-?
Which one?
ETA: Oh, this one?
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Any merchants in your neighborhood you deal with that seem to be after more than the last cent they can squeeze out of you? In 1KIKI's world there aren't.
Well, after locking out their employees during a labor negotiation then being fined $25M by the state for illegal pricing, my Ralph's here finally closed down. If it hadn't been for the state, I'm sure they'd still be doing what they'd been doing. Then there's my TJs where I shop often and talk with the employees. The prices may be lower but the employees are getting screwed. Then there's the Albertson's nearby - I truly don't know how they kept the place alive while Ralph's was open - their prices are atrocious - but now that Ralph's is closed, people have to shop there because it's quite literally the only game in town when it comes to grocery stores.
Those are your choices to pick from, because those are my choices.
So now, tell me Geezer, which of those places is your 'good guy' capitalist?
The "Have you stopped beating your wife?" question?
The "Who do you admire more, Hitler or Stalin?" question?
Yeah. Right.
"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."
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Quote:But the link WAS provided...
Originally posted by Geezer:
Just following your rules, Chris.
#8: Thou shall not lay the burden of proof on him that is questioning the claim. (Burden of proof reversal).
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Quote:A Capitalist economy depends on losers. Without losers, there can be no winners.
Originally posted by G:
Raising minimum wage sounds great and maybe it would be. Or maybe the cost of goods and services would go up as well. Catch-22.
There can be no (insanely) rich if there are no poor. This is a simple, rock solid fact that many like to deny.
A working version of Capitalism is about tides. Sometimes the poor don't have it so bad at all, sometimes they're hurting. We're moving closer to the non-working version where the poor are growing as a class, and hurting more often than not. The tipping point, if it is not averted, is where the poor are THE ONLY non-rich class, and they are hurting ALL the time. This precipitates violent revolution. Hopefully it will not come to that. What good is being insanely rich in a country that is literally collapsing?
I say it's better to just be really rich & have a secure world in which to flaunt it.
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"Consumers want to pay less, so businesses have to find ways to make their products for less to compete and stay in business."
There's one foolproof way to do that - reduce profits. But that doesn't happen.
SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.
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Originally posted by Geezer:
The "Have you stopped beating your wife?" question?
The "Who do you admire more, Hitler or Stalin?" question?
Yeah. Right.
Geezer, may I remind you it was YOUR question? Right here:
Originally posted by Geezer:
"Any merchants in your neighborhood you deal with that seem to be after more than the last cent they can squeeze out of you?"
I simply provided the information about the stores I shop at. Given that information, how would you answer your own question?
SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.
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Quote:No, you cannot. He can't remember. It's not an irresponsible thing IMO- he just can't DEAL.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Geezer, may I remind you
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:But the link WAS provided...
Originally posted by Geezer:
Just following your rules, Chris.
#8: Thou shall not lay the burden of proof on him that is questioning the claim. (Burden of proof reversal).
Where?
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
AH, the REAL reason Starbucks is being so 'generous' - unionization
Why are Starbucks Workers Joining a Union?
Starbucks Workers Need to>Rise Out of Poverty
The idea that Starbucks workers are paid fairly is a myth created by the company’s public relations machine. Starbucks workers in the United States earn as little $7 or $8 per hour depending on the location.
On top of the low wage, every single barista in the United States is part-time and not guaranteed any work hours per week. For example, a Starbucks employee can get 35 hours of work one week, 22 hours the week after, and 10 hours the following week. Combine the low-wage with the fluctuating hours and you get a very bleak financial picture for Starbuck workers despite Starbucks’ $23 billion market value and rapid growth. Apparently, a net worth of over a billion dollars is not enough for Starbucks Chairman Howard Schultz.
Starbucks Workers Deserve Health Care Coverage
The single greatest myth constructed by Starbucks about working for the company involves health care. But in reality Starbucks is far from being a leader in employee health care. Starbucks insures a lower percentage of its workforce than Wal-Mart a company rightly condemned for its poor health care policies. Starbucks’ 42% is not only worse than Wal-Mart’s 47%, it’s also worse than the industry average!
The barriers to health care for employees are two-fold. First, employees must work 240 hours per quarter to qualify to purchases health care through the company. Keep in mind however, that with no full-time workers and no guaranteed work hours, qualifying to purchase health care is far from assured. Second, workers must pay significant premiums, co-pays, and deductibles to participate in the health care plan. The poverty pay package makes these out-of-pocket expenses a difficult proposition indeed.
Starbucks Workers Require a Sufficiently Staffed and Safe Working Environment
Starbucks baristas work at a relentless pace to meet extraordinary customer demand. If management scheduled an appropriate numbers of workers on the shop floor, workers would not have to work at such an unsafe speed with very hot beverages. The Starbucks work environment is also chock full of ergonomic dangers. The combination of the unduly brisk pace and the ergonomic inadequacies result in repetitive strain injuries like carpal tunnel syndrome for many Starbucks workers.
Starbucks Workers Have a Right to the Respect that Comes With an Independent Voice on the Job
The work life of employees at multinational retailers like Starbucks is characterized by innumerable abuses. Disrespectful managers and managers who treat workers like children are not uncommon. Schedules are often made without consideration for a workers’ need to a healthy sleep schedule. Starbucks requires workers to call around the city to get a shift covered when ill or in bereavement.
Joining a union is how workers exercise their right to free association on the job. The act of standing together with one’s co-workers goes beyond wages and working conditions; solidarity goes to the inherent dignity of working people. A union is how workers have their own voice both on the job and in society. Finally, joining a fighting union is a great way to connect with the global movement for justice.
OONJERAH - We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.
"You, who live
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Originally posted by Geezer:
The "Have you stopped beating your wife?" question?
The "Who do you admire more, Hitler or Stalin?" question?
Yeah. Right.
Geezer, may I remind you it was YOUR question? Right here:
Originally posted by Geezer:
"Any merchants in your neighborhood you deal with that seem to be after more than the last cent they can squeeze out of you?"
Yep. and it was addressed to Chris. Haven't seen an answer yet. Maybe I should repeat the question every few hours, increasing the snark every time.
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I simply provided the information about the stores I shop at.
All the stores you shop at? All the stores in your neighborhood?
No. Just grocery stores.
Sort'a like someone saying "The weather in my town has stayed the same for the last hundred years. Obviously, there's no global warming."
Violation of Rule #3: Thou shall not use small numbers to represent the whole. (Hasty generalization)
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Given that information, how would you answer your own question?
I've dealt with businesses that do try to get the last penny out of you (usually only once), and I've dealt with others that provide good service and value for money, treat their customers well, and treat their employees well. I go back to these folks time and again.
"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."
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Good guess G, they do no longer create jobs. They don't create bricks and mortar companies. Mark Zuckerberg bought Whatsapp for 18 billion. The company employees 56 people. Not many jobs there. They shift paper around. It is the best way to make a profit. No overhead. All you have to do is speculate a rise in prices and then sell for higher than your purchase price. It is actually the .01 percent that has been getting it all the last decade.
si shen
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