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capitalism, by definition, is a stupid and foolish human system

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Tuesday, June 17, 2014 4:58 AM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
I'm sorry 1kiki I think you missed my post about what alternative system you would put in place?

I'll tag-team an answer (not necessarily hers though):
The best alternative is to mix Capitalism with Anarchism. Take the best from both & add in other elements from Socialism or wherever that WORK.

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Tuesday, June 17, 2014 5:05 AM

I think one answer is to limit profit to payback of initial investment plus accrued interest over the time the current amount of money is still outstanding, rather than have it as a 'free money' card ad infinitum.

Meanwhile, Geezer, I'm still waiting.



OONJERAH - We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.
"You, who live in any kind of comfort or convenience, do not know how these people can survive these things, do you? They will endure because there is no immediate escape from endurance. Some will die, the rest must live."

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Tuesday, June 17, 2014 6:37 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
I'm sorry 1kiki I think you missed my post about what alternative system you would put in place?

I'll tag-team an answer (not necessarily hers though):
The best alternative is to mix Capitalism with Anarchism. Take the best from both & add in other elements from Socialism or wherever that WORK.



That is an answer I’ll give you that. I read the definition of anarchism and I see it as capitalism run amuck. No one to answer to at all. Like a bunch of Kings and Queens all over again. Who would make sure those with the most didn’t abuse those who have less. Even with governments we can’t seem to constrain the wealthy amongst us from taking more than what they deserve. Or asking more from the labor force more than it is willing to pay for.

ANARCHISM 1 : a political theory holding all forms of governmental authority to be unnecessary and undesirable


si shen


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Tuesday, June 17, 2014 6:56 AM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
ANARCHISM 1 : a political theory holding all forms of governmental authority to be unnecessary and undesirable


Not MY definition. This:
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an·ar·chism
noun
belief in the abolition of all government and the organization of society on a voluntary, cooperative basis without recourse to force or compulsion.



But to a degree. Another tool. Another elemental idea to be integrated into the New Way.

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Tuesday, June 17, 2014 7:04 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
ANARCHISM 1 : a political theory holding all forms of governmental authority to be unnecessary and undesirable


Not MY definition. This:
an·ar·chism
'an?r?kiz?m/
noun
noun: anarchism

belief in the abolition of all government and the organization of society on a voluntary, cooperative basis without recourse to force or compulsion.



Ok but how about something that can really happen as opposed to something that will not. When ever there is a group, someone dominates.

si shen


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Tuesday, June 17, 2014 7:06 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
I think one answer is to limit profit to payback of initial investment plus accrued interest over the time the current amount of money is still outstanding, rather than have it as a 'free money' card ad infinitum.

Interesting.
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Meanwhile, Geezer, I'm still waiting.

That's a train don't come.

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Tuesday, June 17, 2014 7:26 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
What do I think of as intelligent, the opposite of stupid? I think it means being able to look at a wide range of information and to examine it in its own right - without reference to our own fears and wishes - to reach an understanding of what it is. So for example, not looking on solar eclipses as portents from gods regarding our human fortunes, but as celestial mechanisms running in their own way. In that regard, capitalism is extremely stupid. It looks at the entire universe of data and asks only one human-related question - can it make a profit? That makes it incredibly stupid.

And what do I think of a wise, the opposite of foolish? It means looking at the range of information we've gotten through our intelligence, and understanding what does it mean for us. In that regard, capitalism is extremely foolish, because having looked at only one question - can it make a profit? - it automatically concludes it should be done. That makes it incredibly foolish.

So why do we trust our lives to this stupid and foolish human system?

I agree, there are those who believe (and you know who they are) the rather foolish premise:

"The one who dies with the most toys, Wins!"

They care not who they step on, torture and ruin. They worship power and they feel that the almighty dollar is their God. For many years they adapted this premise so as not to completely obliterate the slimmest hope that anyone could join the club.

But that is no more. They want to maintain the status quo and further it to the point of extreme exclusion. This is both Foolish and stupid beyond belief.

"Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose"
Kris Kristofferson, Me and Bobby McGee, 1969


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Tuesday, June 17, 2014 7:37 AM

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"Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose"
Kris Kristofferson, Me and Bobby McGee, 1969



There's a guy that made a lot of money. Ex Green Bret as well. Hell his father was an Air Force Major General.

si shen


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Tuesday, June 17, 2014 8:04 AM

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
there are those who believe (and you know who they are) the rather foolish premise:

"The one who dies with the most toys, Wins!"

They care not who they step on, torture and ruin. They worship power and they feel that the almighty dollar is their God. For many years they adapted this premise so as not to completely obliterate the slimmest hope that anyone could join the club.

But that is no more. They want to maintain the status quo and further it to the point of extreme exclusion. This is both Foolish and stupid beyond belief.

The definition of self-destruction.

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Tuesday, June 17, 2014 4:55 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:




OONJERAH - We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.
"You, who live in any kind of comfort or convenience, do not know how these people can survive these things, do you? They will endure because there is no immediate escape from endurance. Some will die, the rest must live."



Thanks Ikiki.

Love First Dog on the Moon

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