capitalism, by definition, is a stupid and foolish human system
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Geezer, you asked me a question and I answered. Have you no opinion to offer? Or are you going to bail on it because - yanno - you have no answer?
Just wanted to confirm that you are going to stereotype anyone who runs a business in which they have invested their capital - be it money, time, skills, etc. - as interested in only profit to the exclusion of everything else.
You didn't disappoint.
"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Good spadework, 1kiki.
No links to sources, though.
"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."
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Meanwhile, Geezer issued a challenge that surely some of the local merchants I deal with must be good capitalists. So I gave him a breakdown of my local grocery stores: A Ralph's, now closed, that locked out its employees during contract negotiations and was fined $25M by the state for illegal pricing (which is why they are now closed), a TJs which is a specialty store that screws its workers, and the only general grocery store Albertson's, which charges exorbitant prices for essential goods.
In DIRECT RESPONSE to his post "Any merchants in your neighborhood you deal with that seem to be after more than the last cent they can squeeze out of you?" I asked him to name the good capitalist out of my available choices of local merchants.
Instead, he shifted the goal posts (a trick he often employs), and has so far failed to answer my question.
I'm still waiting.
Originally posted by Geezer:
Just wanted to confirm that you are going to stereotype anyone who runs a business in which they have invested their capital - be it money, time, skills, etc. - as interested in only profit to the exclusion of everything else.
You didn't disappoint.
OONJERAH - We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.
"You, who live in any kind of comfort or convenience, do not know how these people can survive these things, do you? They will endure because there is no immediate escape from endurance. Some will die, the rest must live."
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1kiki , Capitalism, by definition, is a stupid and foolish human system
This is the thread title. It sounds more like a bitch fest without suggesting what your alternative is. Capitalism promotes progress. History suggests it inspires creativity like no way has in the past.
Some of the key concepts relating to an analysis of the effects of capitalism on culture are profit motive, commodity, human desire, and the market economy. The capitalist system is based on private ownership and consolidation of the means of production, where the production of commodities is guided by profit motive to satisfy human desires.
What capitalism does do is it encourages people, in general, to engage in activity that is deemed valuable by other people. This is what many people see as capitalism’s most positive attribute, and indeed this is an extremely important factor in the ways in which the capitalist system has been successful.
The key is private ownership. Unless you think everything should be government owned, do you?
What needs to be addressed is the distribution of assets in this process. There are a lot of ways to go about it and it will take a revolt of sorts. Other things that need to be addressed is it's insatiable appetite with which it consumes our resources and pollutes.
What 1kiki would you put in its place? Or did you just want to create a place to tear something down without an alternative idea?
si shen
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Good spadework, 1kiki.
No links to sources, though.
1kiki, give me back the money I paid you to get answers for me; this project now gets a D-.
Oh, and Geeze, why won't you answer her question-?
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Burden of proof
Hasty generalization
Post hoc ergo propter hoc
OONJERAH - We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.
"You, who live in any kind of comfort or convenience, do not know how these people can survive these things, do you? They will endure because there is no immediate escape from endurance. Some will die, the rest must live."
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Which links did I fail to provide? I linked the online program and Starbucks wages and benefits ...
OONJERAH - We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.
"You, who live in any kind of comfort or convenience, do not know how these people can survive these things, do you? They will endure because there is no immediate escape from endurance. Some will die, the rest must live."
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I'm sorry 1kiki I think you missed my post about what alternative system you would put in place?
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My reply:
Burden of proof
Hasty generalization
Post hoc ergo propter hoc
OONJERAH - We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.
"You, who live in any kind of comfort or convenience, do not know how these people can survive these things, do you? They will endure because there is no immediate escape from endurance. Some will die, the rest must live."
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Meanwhile, Geezer issued a challenge that surely some of the local merchants I deal with must be good capitalists. So I gave him a breakdown of my local grocery stores: A Ralph's, now closed, that locked out its employees during contract negotiations and was fined $25M by the state for illegal pricing (which is why they are now closed), a TJs which is a specialty store that screws its workers, and the only general grocery store Albertson's, which charges exorbitant prices for essential goods.
In DIRECT RESPONSE to his post "Any merchants in your neighborhood you deal with that seem to be after more than the last cent they can squeeze out of you?" I asked him to name the good capitalist out of my available choices of local merchants.
Instead, he shifted the goal posts (a trick he often employs), and has so far failed to answer my question.
Instead, he posted this straw man that, as a straw man, doesn't accurately represent my point
Originally posted by Geezer:
Just wanted to confirm that you are going to stereotype anyone who runs a business in which they have invested their capital - be it money, time, skills, etc. - as interested in only profit to the exclusion of everything else.
You didn't disappoint.
I'm still waiting for him to name the good capitalist out of my available choices of local merchants.
OONJERAH - We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.
"You, who live in any kind of comfort or convenience, do not know how these people can survive these things, do you? They will endure because there is no immediate escape from endurance. Some will die, the rest must live."
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