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Is racism over? RNC clarifies tweet

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Wednesday, December 4, 2013 3:20 AM

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Originally posted by Geezer:


I'm old enough to have seen bathrooms and water fountains labeled "Black" and "White", and to have gone to segregated schools. The makeup of the groups of kids I see walking home from school today, and the diversity of folks in my neighborhood, tells me that those days are past.



And someone who lived during slavery would probably think that segregated schools and separate water fountains proved that racism was over. They'd still be wrong.




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Wednesday, December 4, 2013 6:52 AM

Amen to Frem and Mark. Racism is alive and well, tolerated and encouraged, in America today.
















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Wednesday, December 4, 2013 6:24 PM

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Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:

Horse shit Geezer.

One need only look at the GOP and listen to their bullshit babble for fifteen minutes to know this issue is far, far from over.
Of course, if they *HAD* anything to offer minorities it'd be a different story, but these days it's all they can do to trot out a few offensively stereotypical uncle toms doing the old negro shuffle, like Herman Cain, and seriously, that was just downright embarassing.

Me, I favor simply IGNORING race instead of making it a factor whatever, but alas no one else seems on board with that notion.

-F



Republicans don't pay little attention to minorities because they're minorities, but because they're overwhelmingly Democrats. That's the point of voter ID as well - not because they're prejudiced against minorities, students, and the elderly, but that those groups are mostly Democratic voters. (Then again, Chris Christie did pretty well among Hispanic voters in N.J., so maybe he's showing the way)

Of course the Democrats will play the race and minority cards for all they're worth, so as to keep these folks on their side. You can pretty much see that in the comments here of folks who really want to portray America as racist so they can blame it on someone.


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Wednesday, December 4, 2013 6:40 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Amen to Frem and Mark. Racism is alive and well, tolerated and encouraged, in America today.




But this cartoon is by a Brazilian artist and was published on the Palestine Think Tank website. Not sure how that indicates America is racist. http://hiphopwired.com/2012/07/06/8-racist-cartoons-targeting-presiden
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And this one is pretty obviously NOT racist, but a shot at racists, to anyone who's not blinkered.

As for the rest, unless you have some proof that they're not stuff made up by allthingsdemocrat.com to fire up the base, as you are trying to do by reposting them, they're meaningless.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Wednesday, December 4, 2013 7:11 PM

Your bias is amazing, and despicable. Why is it then that so many racist statements come from Republicans? If they're not racist, why do they say the things they do?

Loy Mauch, Republican member of the Arkansas House of Representatives: “… If slavery were so God-awful, why didn’t Jesus or Paul condemn it, why was it in the Constitution and why wasn’t there a war before 1861?"

Jon Hubbard, Arkansas Republican: “… the institution of slavery that the black race has long believed to be an abomination upon its people may actually have been a blessing in disguise. The blacks who could endure those conditions and circumstances would someday be rewarded with citizenship in the greatest nation ever established upon the face of the Earth.”

Or the attendee at the Republican National Convention who threw nuts at a black camerawoman: “This is how we feed animals.”

Over and over, Republicans haven't just "paid little attention" to minorities, they have quite clearly made statements that are quite clearly racist. How you can pretend that's not so is incredible.

As Colin Powell said: "When I see a former governor say that the President is “shuckin’ and jivin’,” that’s racial era slave term. "

Even Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, former chief of staff to Colin Powell and a Republican, admitted it: "“My party, unfortunately, is the bastion of those people, not all of them, but most of them, who are still basing their decision on race. Let me just be candid: My party is full of racists. And the real reason a considerable portion of my party wants President Obama out of the White House has nothing to do with the content of his character, nothing to do with his competence as commander-in-chief and president, and everything to do with the color of his skin. And that’s despicable.”

I could go on putting up racist images like the above all day, and they come from Republicans; to pretend that isn't so is ridiculous. Like this, from Jennifer Olsen, chairwoman of the Yellowstone County Republicans:



Racial hatred is alive and well in America, that's simply a fact:











As to: "That's the point of voter ID as well - not because they're prejudiced against minorities, students, and the elderly, but that those groups are mostly Democratic voters." -- So you're admitting that they're willing to pass laws to limit their constitutional right to vote. Certainly it's been admitted before, BY REPUBLICANS:

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“There’s no doubt that what the Republican led legislature in Florida and Governor Scott are trying to do is make sure the Republican party has an advantage in this upcoming election by reducing early voting and putting roadblocks up for potential voters, Latinos, African Americans to register and then to exercise their right to vote. There’s no doubt. I was in the room. It’s part of the strategy. And if they’ve got to change a few voter laws and make it more difficult for minority voters to get to the polls, well they’re going to do it. “I sat in on many meetings where it was discussed ....And part of those discussions dealt with changing the election laws in Florida.

"And three and a half years as chairman of Florida, I never had one meeting where voter fraud was discussed as a real issue effecting elections. Never one time…Never one time did we have any discussions where voter fraud was a real issue. It’s simply been created as a marketing tool here in Flori

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Wednesday, December 4, 2013 8:12 PM

Your giggle for the day: As usual, Jon does it straight on, and with humor:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-december-3-2013/parks-and-recogn
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...he went on to have some fun with it, suggesting further "clarifications" they might have made...







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Thursday, December 5, 2013 1:23 AM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Your bias is amazing, and despicable.



My bias? When I say that there are racists in the U.S. but the vast majority of people aren't, and the vast majority either distain racists or pity them for their ignorance?

I know there are folks who are racist, or at least make racist remarks. We have one here in D.C.

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OVER THE YEARS, Marion Barry has said and done so many questionable things that the city whose politics he long dominated has become inured to his behavior. But his racist remarks this week about Asian Americans — and his oblivious response — are too ugly to ignore. On Tuesday Ward 8 Democrats looked past his failings to nominate him to a third consecutive term on the D.C. Council, but that doesn’t mean that the rest of the District and its political leaders should excuse his behavior.

Mr. Barry used the occasion of a victory party Tuesday to make this ignorant observation: “We’ve got to do something about these Asians coming in, opening up businesses, those dirty shops. They ought to go, I’ll just say that right now, you know.” The bigoted remarks were picked up by WRC-TV cameras and, fortunately, sparked a fair amount of outrage. Among those objecting, to their credit, were Mayor Vincent C. Gray (D) and D.C. Council Chairman Kwame R. Brown (D). They made clear, as the mayor put it, that “there is no room in this wonderfully diverse city for comments that disparage anyone on the basis of race, ethnicity, gender, religion, creed, disability or sexual orientation.”


http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-04-05/opinions/35451385_1_asia
n-american-marion-barry-racist-remarks


and...

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For the second time in less than a month, D.C. Council member Marion Barry is having to fend off criticism that he unfairly singled out an ethnic group as he attempted to explain how to get more African Americans trained and employed in the District.

At a hearing Monday on the University of the District of Columbia’s budget, he spoke about the need to train more African Americans to become nurses. In a video of his remarks aired by WTTG-TV, Barry noted a growing number of nurses are “immigrants” from the Philippines.

f you go to the hospital now, you’ll find a number of immigrants who are nurses, particularly from the Philippines,” said Barry (D-Ward 8). “And no offense, but let’s grow our own teachers, let’s grow our own nurses, and so that we don’t have to go scrounging in our community clinics and other kinds of places, having to hire people from somewhere else.”

The National Federation of Filipino American Associations called Barry’s remarks “racist” and “bigoted.”



http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-04-24/local/35452438_1_nurses-
from-other-countries-udc-marion-barry


Googling Democrat racist quotes comes up with this, which I'll just link.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2484587/posts

So we could swap "which party has the most racists" all day long, but that still isn't my point.

Racism as a political force in this country is over. You can no longer make an appeal for votes based on racism and expect to gain more votes than you lose. The only viable political ploy based on racism now is to use it to blame the other party for your constituents' problems. You seem to know this well.




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Thursday, December 5, 2013 2:58 AM

I get that you all don't like people from one party or another. I also get that racially charged comments made towards those public figures might be more meant as political comments than an actual indication of racism from the person making the comments.

However. The comments and the pictures that result from this tension and conflict between the parties are ALL racially charged. Whether it is Herman Cain getting hit by this or Obama.

Don't bother defending such comments or pictures, no matter if you said them, or someone on "your side." They are ultimately irrelevant to the conversation. Gotcha politics or "who does it more" demonstrates nothing and solves nothing.

In the best case scenario no one would be offensive, and no one would be offended. But they are. As it is, the best approach is to give offensive racial partisan nonsense all the consideration it deserves: by ignoring it as a reactionary emotional outburst made in a temporary fit of irrationality.

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Thursday, December 5, 2013 4:46 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
"Today we remember Rosa Parks’ bold stand and her role in ending racism."

I don't think this needs the 'clarification' they gave it. It's pretty clear - it's just wrong.



Race baiting is a full blown industry now. Just ask Revs Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson.


Good grief. T'was a minor faux pas on twitter. Get a grip, folks. I'm sure you'd rather the GOP never even recognize Rosa Parks, huh?

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Thursday, December 5, 2013 8:23 PM

Racism is over? Hmmmmm.... kinda reminds me of something I've heard before.....



Guess Obama remembered that too, with the big party they're going to throw for the end of racism...






I honestly hate admitting my embedded/instinctual racism. I have worked great jobs and I have worked really shitty jobs. Though in the world I grew up in, with a few exceptions, a large majority of the black people I've worked with were at the crappier end of the spectrum of jobs, one thing remained the same..... I have never actually disliked any black person I've ever worked with. There's no way I can say that about white people I've worked with. That isn't PR bullshit. That is just my truth.

I could get mad at myself for not making an effort to hang out with any of them outside of work, but these days it's a chore for my family sometimes to make sure I make it to family holiday gatherings. Back when I was going out 8 nights a week though, I never even made an attempt to hang out with any of my black co-workers outside of work. One black guy we called "Chappelle" because he looked just like Dave and was funny as hell called me out of the blue about two years ago. My good friend was hanging out at a bar and "Chappelle" showed up and he called me on my friends phone. We said that we should get together sometime and BS, and then we never called each other after that...... :(



I think of how evilly pissed I can get sometimes and how stressful I am walking around. Even when nothing is wrong, I'm always walking around at a level of "2" or "3". There's no question in my mind why a 45 year old black man can look no older than 28 years old. I don't believe it's genetics, at least the skin part... It's the health benefits of a completely different outlook on life. I'm not at all suggesting that black men and women don't suffer from stress. I'm just saying that in my personal experiences that I believe they deal with stress and confrontation on the whole much better than white people do, even if it can be really annoying for white people to have to listen to it.

I find it annoying sometimes to have to overhear one side of drama being spoken over the phone at least once if not ten times a week, particularly with the black youth at my current job, but come break time they're some of the funnest and funniest people to be around. It almost seems as if they don't go to bed angry because they're just as quick to talk about how great a friend they got a day or two later, even though that "friend" was the one on the reciprocal end of that phone conversation that I didn't hear.

Me? Hell... I'm the "camel" in the Idiom "straw that broke the camel's back". I let small shit build and build over the months and even years until one day I explode in some American Psycho type fashion.

I'm referring to Christian's recorded rants. I can assure you that I've never tried to stuff a cat in an ATM machine and I've never successfully dropped an active chainsaw from 15 stories on a fleeing hookers head.



Racism is hardly over.

I don't argue the RNC on the issue though. Holding the entire RNC and any of its supporters accountable for the one single sentence the author ever wrote in their life that they wish they could un-write in 20/20 vision is asinine.

Haven't you ever heard of a f-king type-o?

Haven't you ever worked with a low level employee?

(The answer to that question is, if you have never worked with a low level employee that doesn't know any better you are the low level employee that doesn't know any better).



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