What is the best, and worst things people have said about you here? Are they true?
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Mal4Prez
If you think CTS is a piece of go se now, wait till she pulls her 'poor little victim' routine on you, after calling you a gang-raper. The whole - crying, wringing her handkerchief, I don't understand why she's being so MEAN to poor little misunderstood me, I was just trying to be honorable - schtick.
She's more than go se, she's MANIPULATIVE go se.
ETA: FWIW it seems like pushing people's buttons is her major talent in life.
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Originally posted by WULFENSTAR:
As to the title of this thread... should I start laughing maniacally now.. or wait? Being hated by evil people is something to be celebrated.
Are you the evil people or is that everyone else?
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Mal4Prez
If you think CTS is a piece of go se now, wait till she pulls her 'poor little victim' routine on you, after calling you a gang-raper. The whole - crying, wringing her handkerchief, I don't understand why she's being so MEAN to poor little misunderstood me, I was just trying to be honorable - schtick.
She's more than go se, she's MANIPULATIVE go se.
ETA: FWIW it seems like pushing people's buttons is her major talent in life.
Kiki, I'm impressed with your post. You've got spunk. I recall that our last few exchanges a while back were quite decent and interesting. Y'ought to post more often.
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Well, since I hadda go and open my big mouth in the first place, imma try and address this in a from the top kinda-sorta-maybe coherent order, as it were.
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Do you mean that we are all culpable in some way, no matter our choices? I totally agree with this.
Aye, that's what I meant - sometimes people are trapped, and they don't feel they have a choice, and thus attempt to do-least-harm, but one should acknowledge there that harm WILL come of it.
Case in point: folks who voted for Obama cause Romney and his cabal are fucking lunatics, and dangerous ones to boot, they did what they did for reasons, and I don't dispute their intentions...
But Obama has hardly been the pancea he claimed he was gonna be, and those same folks have slacked a bit on chewing his ass for it, and thus some folks feel a certain denial of responsibility is going on.
Others have "refused to play the game", so far as they are able to do so, and those who are not by virtue of being trapped in the system do potently resent being forced to.
Case in point: I begrudge paying taxes, I would not if they were used to build infrastructure, feed the poor, keep services running, support medical care, the things Gov SHOULD be doing... but I do powerfully resent them being used to buy and build bombs and bullets to harm folks who bear no better crime than being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
That I am culpable in this enrages me, but little choice do I have, and all I can do is throw monkeywrenches in retaliation, but I will not deny that responsibility, you see ?
Because we ARE responsible, collectively, there's no level of dilution of it where we ain't.
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Responsibility is more forward looking: what can we do at this point? That's a much use useful way to go.
That being generally my way of coming at it, but there's so much not-my-problem, not-my-fault goin round that a lot of people have become frustrated, often bitterly so, especially when they personally wind up on the business end of policies and whatnot, and suffer for it, only for those that have by accident, design or resignation supported them to deny all responsibility for doing so, and that does tend to really enrage people, alas.
As too does being told withdrawing consent and participation from the process amounts to "doing nothing", cause sometimes (as I point out in regards to foreign policy a lot) leaving well the hell enough ALONE might be the course of action, or at least not makin it worse.
While I see harsh words were exchanged here, in an attempt to clobber understanding of these positions into each other, which works about as well as it usually does, allow me to indulge in the mild hypocrisy of not using them myself just yet... cause we all know I can and will do that and worse if I feel the need.
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I see HKCav has nailed one end of it down for me, therfore allowing me to concentrate on the other.
Comes a time to a person that you have to do what lets you look in the mirror and not cringe, even if everyone hates you for it, cause at the end of the day answering to that mirror is harder than any facade one could possibly hold up against a hostile world and society.
It's really no secret I have seriously massive *issues* with that of mine own and thus comprehend very deeply why someone would do what lets them live with themselves even if others do not approve - I mean hell, right now I could secure real medical care, make three times as much money for even less work and not have to answer to anyone but a guy I've known for years and respect...
And I will not do it - cause it means workin for TSA/DepHomeSec, sitting in a tower at the airport and picking out potential troublemakers for the shakedown, and I can't live with that.
So I go on protecting this little podunk backwater bit-of-nowhere for barely enough to put food on the table cause whether it MATTERS in the grand scheme of things these folk need, want and value both my protection AND my discretion, my leaving well
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Jong
My post to CTS which got eaten by the website went something like this:
"Telling them this is the best we can do, and to be grateful those atrocities aren't worse because we put in the least evil guy we could get--I don't think that counts for much."
But making a choice to have less evil is better than making a choice to keep the same amount of evil, or making a choice to have even more evil. It's to bad we can't be all powerful and make the choice to do away with evil entirely, and for that we should be severely criticized. And in your all-knowing judgment you are just the person to do that.
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You see, when people are willing to discuss topics without pushing other people's buttons (and CTS is a master at button-pushing - siding with Frem as a fellow beleaguered anarchist, calling Mal4 a gang-rapist, creating ill-will then painting herself as a victim), when they bring up their experiences and opinions in order to share with others - I'm more than happy to oblige.
But CTS has pulled her shit way too often for me to have any patience with any bit of her. Life is short, and really, some people aren't worth the waste of time trying to engage with them. There are people here I have written off entirely as being worth spending any of my time on except to make fun of them. She is definitely on that list.
Notice, btw, that I'm not making global accusations as she does, based on a single post or a single pov or some overarching righteousness or an ideological difference. This is my long-term personal observation of her over time, and my personal response is to refuse to waste any bit of time I have on this earth playing her game.
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"beleaguered"?
Seriously?!
Try "belligerent" and possibly "bellicose" and you'd be closer to the mark.
FYI: You might consider, in the grand course of things - *I* am starting to have that opinion about most of you here.
Care to come clean, hmmm ?
-F
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"*I* am starting to have that opinion about most of you here."
Except CTS I'd guess. Have fun.
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Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:
Ergo, I am maybe just a little put off about the lack of acceptance in regard to folks doing what they can live with, especially since one of my methods of savaging the system is to reach out to those trapped within it and offer them ways to sandbag it and live with themselves a little better about the matter, don't you know.
Point taken.
Cause if we can't live with ourselves, death is the only other option.
And fighting SOME way is better than death.
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Disobedience is not an issue if obedience is not the goal.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
If you think CTS is a piece of go se now, wait till she pulls her 'poor little victim' routine on you, after calling you a gang-raper. The whole - crying, wringing her handkerchief, I don't understand why she's being so MEAN to poor little misunderstood me, I was just trying to be honorable - schtick.
Oh, she’s done that to me before. I didn’t feel properly bad for her, which is why I think she’s carried such a grudge.
FWIW, though I still stand by giving her a slap down for what she said in this thread, I don't really think she's go se. People who behave like this do it for a reason. Really, when I'm not in the middle of the fray, I feel bad for her.
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