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Obama allows martial law, as long as he gets a personal power

POSTED BY: dreamtrove
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Friday, December 16, 2011 10:04 PM

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Originally posted by pizmobeach:
Yes, I reserve the right to ridicule and shame quitters, and oddly enough even more so if I know them and respect them.

Pizmo's shame and ridicule, or death/torture?

Heap it on, Pizmo! ;)

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"Christmas is a time when kids tell Santa what they want and adults pay for it. Deficits are when adults tell the government what they want - and their kids pay for it." - Richard Lamm

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Friday, December 16, 2011 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by canttakesky:
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Originally posted by pizmobeach:
Yes, I reserve the right to ridicule and shame quitters, and oddly enough even more so if I know them and respect them.

Pizmo's shame and ridicule, or death/torture?

Heap it on, Pizmo! ;)




You look silly in hats! All of them!

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Friday, December 16, 2011 11:32 PM



Notice how the Demorats and Republicons work hand in glove for the New World Odor?

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The bill says that the military must indefinitely detain anyone SUSPECTED of helping bad guys.

One provision says that the mandatory (“must”) indefinite detention doesn’t apply to U.S. citizens … but the government CAN indefinitely detain any U.S. citizen it feels like without trial, without presenting evidence, without letting the citizen consult with a lawyer, and without even charging the citizen.

In other words, it’s like saying “you don’t HAVE to lock up Joey for the rest of his life because he called you a mean name, but you CAN lock him away and throw away the key and then falsely accuse him of being a suspected terrorist if it would make you happy”.

They will say that American citizens are specifically exempted under the following language in Sec. 1032: “The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.” Don’t be fooled. All this says is that the President is not REQUIRED to indefinitely detain American citizens without charge or trial. It still PERMITS him to do so.

The ACLU notes:

Don’t be confused by anyone claiming that the indefinite detention legislation does not apply to American citizens. It does. There is an exemption for American citizens from the mandatory detention requirement (section 1032 of the bill), but no exemption for American citizens from the authorization to use the military to indefinitely detain people without charge or trial (section 1031 of the bill). So, the result is that, under the bill, the military has the power to indefinitely imprison American citizens, but it does not have to use its power unless ordered to do so.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/12/explaining-to-a-5-year-old-why-
the-indefinite-detention-bill-does-apply-to-u-s-citizens-on-u-s-soil.html






President Benito Mussolini hanging out with mistress

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Saturday, December 17, 2011 12:31 AM

Wow, PN. That was a really good commercial. Good for MTV.

As a mother, I reacted to that fleeting scene of the mother parting from her son.

It is one thing to fight and take the chance of getting killed, etc.

It is another thing to fight and take the chance of losing custody of my kids.

I'd rather run.

Pizmo, that was funny, about the hats. :) You got a good sense of humor.

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"Christmas is a time when kids tell Santa what they want and adults pay for it. Deficits are when adults tell the government what they want - and their kids pay for it." - Richard Lamm

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Saturday, December 17, 2011 12:56 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
God. Fucking. Dammit.



Been nice knowin' y'all.




At least we're all safe.

I'll sleep well tonight.





"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

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Saturday, December 17, 2011 2:04 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I'll sleep well tonight.



Channeling Kalashnikov?

Speaking of famous quotes, isn't that Einstein quote just paraphrasing Edmund Burke's "All that is necessary for evil to flourish is that good men do nothing?"

Evil, in this case, is flourishing, and I believe about to get a lefty signature. I mean left-handed. Also left-wing and sinister.

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PN:

Notice how the Demorats and Republicons work hand in glove for the New World Odor?



PN, thanks for the video. You'll have more allies for your cause when you start admitting jews ;)

Here's a second spot of the MTV ad against NDAA



I have to say that I have an additional worry that if Obama signs this thing, which I assume he will, the election is over, and it becomes an "anybody but Obama" vote, shifting all the weight to the GOP primary. Here's praying for Ron Paul.

Unless they rig it, of course.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Saturday, December 17, 2011 2:09 AM

Hello,

I agree.

Ron Paul is the only person I trust to not use this horrid new law. However crazy he seems, he has certain values he hasn't deviated from. One of those values involves shrinking the government and getting it out of your face.

I don't think he has a chance, though I'll be rooting for him.

Any other candidate will benefit from the continuous leeching away of rights, and likely add more casualties to the list.

--Anthony

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Saturday, December 17, 2011 3:39 AM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Here's a second spot of the MTV ad against NDAA

I don't think it was made against the NDAA specifically. It came out in 2008, I believe.

I think it was meant to be some sort of general Holocaust awareness campaign.

They never thought it would be prescient.

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"Christmas is a time when kids tell Santa what they want and adults pay for it. Deficits are when adults tell the government what they want - and their kids pay for it." - Richard Lamm

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Saturday, December 17, 2011 8:50 AM

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Saturday, December 17, 2011 1:04 PM

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Speaking of famous quotes, isn't that Einstein quote just paraphrasing Edmund Burke's "All that is necessary for evil to flourish is that good men do nothing?"



But Rappy isn't doing nothing - he's sleeping.

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