The origins of the gimmie-gimmie mentaltiy ? The entitlement mindset.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:


Yes, black and all inferior people.

Pretty much in line w/ those who started the modern day 'pro choice' movement, intended to rid society of undesirables. Brought to us primarily by the Eugenics crowd... oh sure. I'm all for that.


You're the one here who brought up the issue of race, Kwickie. Not I.

And I'm not speaking for anyone else. So, again, you fail.

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Really? You're not speaking for anyone else?

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Can't do that? Then they no longer will be YOURS. We make sure the ones who are here, the children who didn't ask to be put in this position, are taken from you, and put where they can grow and learn and eventually do for themselves, and the mother ? In a word... 'fixed'. No more 'presents from god', you've been 'blessed' enough.

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Who is this "We" that you speak of, if you speak for no others? Are you in the habit of referring to yourself - you and you alone - in the plural collective "We"?

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Right. I suppose Kwickie agrees that those children should be put to sleep.

I say society takes care of them, by taking them away from such an abusive mother, and also makes sure she doesn't down load MORE kids to abuse.

WE in society already do this, of course, when a child is severely neglected or abused.

So, yes, we the people, Kwickie, do this. You ? Sounds like you're for offing them, like pets in a kennel.





"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Right. I suppose Kwickie agrees that those children should be put to sleep.

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Agrees? Agrees with whom? Who suggested putting children to sleep? You? You seem to think someone did, if you think I "agree" with that. For the record, you're dead wrong, of course.

Not sure where you got the idea that I'd put children to death. It was YOUR suggestion that the government should take children away, sterilize the mothers, and more.

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I say society takes care of them, by taking them away from such an abusive mother, and also makes sure she doesn't down load MORE kids to abuse.

WE in society already do this, of course, when a child is severely neglected or abused.

So, yes, we the people, Kwickie, do this. You ? Sounds like you're for offing them, like pets in a kennel.

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Ah, so you DO speak for others, then. Thank you for admitting it. Why did you have such a problem with Nick doing this, if you freely admit you do it as well?

Again, not sure where you get this idea of "offing" children or comparing them to "pets in a kennel", but certainly not from anything I've said or posted.

You do have a history of being quite amused at the idea of "offing" certain children, though - Muslim and brown-skinned ones, particularly.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
So kind of you to speak up on my account. Never mind the fact that you're fully entitled to speak up for yourself, but who gave you the right to speak for others? For me ?

Here's a novel idea. Take care of your own.

Can't do that? Then they no longer will be YOURS. We make sure the ones who are here, the children who didn't ask to be put in this position, are taken from you, and put where they can grow and learn and eventually do for themselves, and the mother ? In a word... 'fixed'. No more 'presents from god', you've been 'blessed' enough.n

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Your 'fixed' idea runs so much against your daily screams about freedom it makes you a laughable hypocrite.

I did not speak for you. I did not ask if you wanted to contribute more, nor do I care in that regard. If you have more then you need and the needs of others are great enough some of what is yours should be taken.

Now, regarding taking the children from their mother. I can support that. If a parent can't care for and is not making strides to do so they should lose custody until they can support them.


I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:

Your 'fixed' idea runs so much against your daily screams about freedom it makes you a laughable hypocrite.

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Actually, it doesn't. If you'd been paying attention, I said that your freedoms, all of our freedoms, extend as only as far to where they don't infringe upon the freedoms of another. When this lady knowingly, purposely kept having children she couldn't take care of , and DEMANDS that society takes care of HER kids, then she's infringing on the rights of others.

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I did not speak for you. I did not ask if you wanted to contribute more, nor do I care in that regard. If you have more then you need and the needs of others are great enough some of what is yours should be taken.

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Actually, you DID speak for me,... " If that means that you have to put more in, again so be it". ( So be it ? Really? That's it, end of discussion ? Nothing I say on this topic matters ? Seems you've made my mind up for me.)

And who the hell are you to determine what others NEED ? Who made you the arbiter ?

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Now, regarding taking the children from their mother. I can support that. If a parent can't care for and is not making strides to do so they should lose custody until they can support them.

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Extreme cases sometimes cause for extreme measures. This woman, with her 15 illegitimate children, and no means of support, clearly has shown a utter disregard for herself and her children's welfare.

Good to see that your bias hasn't clouded your vision completely.

And Kwickie, you're merely trolling again, as usual, it's clear. I gave my opinion on what I think SHOULD be done, as well as stated the facts of what ALREADY is done. On the latter, I'm not speaking for anyone else, just admitting a fact, whether you like it or not.

Don't expect you to understand all this, and even if you do, I don't expect you to walk back your idiotic rants. If you did, then you'd have nothing at all to contribute to this thread.



"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

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So kind of you to speak up on my account. Never mind the fact that you're fully entitled to speak up for yourself, but who gave you the right to speak for others? For me ?... We make sure the ones who are here, the children who didn't ask to be put in this position, are taken from you, and put where they can grow and learn and eventually do for themselves, and the mother ? In a word... 'fixed'. No more 'presents from god', you've been 'blessed' enough.

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Are you speaking for the mother, then?

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Extreme cases sometimes cause for extreme measures.

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Extreme cases, like.... the banks that brought down our financial and economic system? Because, yanno, causing hundreds of trillions of dollars in losses is a lot more extreme than fifteen children, wouldn't you say?

Jimminy, rappy, isn't there a single idea in your head that doesn't bite itself in the ass??? In one post, you've demonstrated that you only bray FREEDOM! for YOURSELF. You and Wulf... two twins with but a single thought between them. Sad, really.

Maybe someday you will learn to think, but this is not that day, apparently.

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Sig,

Your irrational hatred towards me has (again) clouded your view of the topic at hand.

I invite you to step back and offer up any opinions you may have of this welfare queen broodmare.

This nonsensical sniping at me, merely because I posted the story, is beyond tedious.



"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

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Magons, well said. The actual "entitlement" mindset is exactly what you described. The fact that those on the right created that phrase as a visceral buzz word to make people think that's what it is doesn't change the fact that we paid into the things we get back like Medicare, Disability and Social Security; we're "entitled" to the return on our money, and the only true "entitlement" mentality is that of those who think they're entitled to make as much money as humanly possible by manipulating the system and because they can afford to "buy" representatives to tip the scale in their favor. They feel they're "entitled" to whatever they can get away with, they didn't make a contract with the government to give their money in exchange for services they need later in life.

Regarding the woman in question, has anyone considered the fact that abortion (and in some cases pregnancy prevention) have been made virtually impossible for the poor to attain? For one thing, leaving aside all the laws either enacted or trying to be enacted which would omit pregnancy protection of any kind, "the pill" costs money, and given the efforts to make sure no healthcare pays for pregnancy prevention, we can't know how many of those children the woman WOULDN'T have had if she'd had options. Without knowing all the facts, judgment (even if it's appropriate) is impossible.

And yes, Mike, who might that lazy welfare queen be, I wonder? Anyone want to take a guess?

As to a woman's right to choose what she does with her body having anything to do with "eugenics", it seems to me that Raptor's desire for forced sterilization of the poor fits in quite well with that. So I guess Raptor is a eugenics proponent. It's a logical conclusion, since I doubt he thinks the welfare queen Mike referred to is someone he would have sterilized by force.

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