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Black Flash Mobs

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Tuesday, August 23, 2011 6:16 PM

As always, Raptor avoids the questions and go on ranting, snarks by telling us what we "think". None of that applies to anyone, of course, but it's something to write which he can try to use to (hopefully) divert the discussion. Won't work with me; looks like it won't work with Anthony either.

No, "unmarried blacks doing worse financially than their married counter parts (sic)" doesn't answer ANY of the questions; if anything, it addresses WHY mobs may be made up of young black people, but that's all. And we're in now way "ignoring" the makeup of these mobs, we're ASKING specifically about them.

Just so we stay on track, these are the ACTUAL questions:

1. How is the experience changed if the mob is "young black youths"?

2. What is special about a 'Black' flash mob over any mob of people anywhere?

3. What special tactics will uniquely work because of race?

4. How is race pivotal in creating a solution?

I'll add my own: "Who exactly is denying there is an issue with flash mobs?" and "How are we not addressing said issue?"

Me, I don't expect you'll ever answer any of the questions, and if diversion and snarking don't do what you want, you'll run away, as usual. Or claim you "won" . Which is it to be, I wonder?


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Tuesday, August 23, 2011 6:20 PM

Where is this bizarre phraseology on ' how the experience is changed' because it's black vs what if it were other folks doing this ??

That's a complete dodge of the issue !

Blacks ARE doing this ! And ONLY blacks ! This isn't a case where you can toss into the equation some hypothetical, because it's pointless to DO so.

In short, you're getting stuck on stupid. Deal with what IS happening, not what 'might' or 'could' happen.

The question you are ignoring , is "WHY ?".
Why is this happening.

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, August 23, 2011 6:20 PM

Hello Raptor,

Your arguments are bizarre. I have never denied that there is an issue. There obviously is an issue if people are assembling for criminal purposes in large numbers.

You keep pointing at a man who gave a heartfelt speech, indicating that the mob participants are damaging their race.

Yet you somehow miss the fact that the mob participants can only 'damage their race' if persons like yourself make broad assumptions about a race of people because of the skin color of these criminals.

I have seen all kinds of mobs, and all kinds of criminals, Raptor. Of every ethnicity and color. These kinds of activities are all carried out by poor, angry, desperate people who have disconnected from society because they feel that society has disconnected from them. There's no color-coded technique for solving that problem. It's a people problem. If we reduce the amount of poor, angry, desperate people in our neighborhoods, we will consequently reduce the amount of thieves, thugs, and vandals in the world.

--Anthony


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Tuesday, August 23, 2011 6:30 PM

"Blacks ARE doing this ! And ONLY blacks !"

Hello,

Raptor, what you see is a very mild change of flavor and composition to a problem that has existed all my life. It just has a new name now, perhaps because of people such as yourself who are staring wide-eyed at the skin of the criminals. It's not even enough to call it a Flash Mob. It must be a Black Flash Mob.

Groups of people getting together and wreaking havoc and destruction, stealing from stores, and beating up bystanders?

We used to call them gangs of hooligans. We used to call them Sharks and Jets and sing songs about it.

Now they're Flash Mobs, and you are aghast at the novelty of it all.

We just saw this very thing go down in the U.K. within the past month. Mostly not blacks.

So how is 'Black' a special designator? How are 'Black' flash mobs special?

I don't think they are. This is a new name for an old thing being done in a slightly novel way. If our socio-economic situation doesn't improve, you'll see more of it. And maybe with some fancy new media-savvy names attached.

--Anthony


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“If you are not free to choose wrongly and irresponsibly, you are not free at all”

Jacob Hornberger

“Freedom is not worth having if it does not connote freedom to err. It passes my comprehension how human beings, be they ever so experienced and able, can delight in depriving other human beings of that precious right.”

Mahatma Gandhi

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Tuesday, August 23, 2011 6:35 PM

This is novel, and I'm for you to claim otherwise is simply ridiculous.

Perhaps your ignorance on what truly is happening , due to the lack of media coverage, emboldens you to draw such casual and nonchalant conclusions, but that's a 'you' issue.




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, August 23, 2011 6:52 PM

Hello,

I have reviewed the tapes.

I see large numbers of people walking through stores and other areas. Some of them take items. Some of them disturb the order of the merchandise. Some of them vandalize property. Some of them attack a bystander. Then they get gone before the police arrive.

Is there a missing item you'd like to point out to me?

--Anthony


_______________________________________________

“If you are not free to choose wrongly and irresponsibly, you are not free at all”

Jacob Hornberger

“Freedom is not worth having if it does not connote freedom to err. It passes my comprehension how human beings, be they ever so experienced and able, can delight in depriving other human beings of that precious right.”

Mahatma Gandhi

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Tuesday, August 23, 2011 6:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
This is novel, and I'm for you to claim otherwise is simply ridiculous.




Just preserving this as evidence of the Raptard's typical butchering of language in his never-ending quest to avoid direct questions and be the biggest neocon douche he can be.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Tuesday, August 23, 2011 8:39 PM

Novel? Didn't New York have "wildings" for a while? Weren't those almost exclusively Caucasian males? That was "novel", wasn't it? Do they still have them?

We all recognize your absolute terror at the idea of "Black People" being out to getcha, little tiny man. It's just that you see ghosts where there aren't any...if these flash mobs continue, you can bet your booties there'll be WHITE people mobbing before long, too.

The point we've been trying to make is why is it important that it's a BLACK mob? What is the difference between a mob of blacks and a mob of whites...or do you think somehow blacks are more dangerous? And if so, why?

You still haven't answered a single, solitary question. Once again I ask: Why does anyone bother ever trying to carry on a conversation, debate, or anything ELSE with Raptor? It beats me.


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Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Novel? Didn't New York have "wildings" for a while? Weren't those almost exclusively Caucasian males?



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I'm gonna hafta stir the pot a little here, Niki. You've mentioned wilding twice now, as a Caucasian thing.

I thought that specifically was a black thing.

I checked the Wikipedia article-- it redirected me to the Central Park jogger case.
The 5 originally convicted defendants in that case certainly sound like black teenagers-- they got on a train in Harlem, they all had " black" names ( One was a Yuseef, and I didn't record the others, but there weren't any Johnny Joneses or Reginald vanGleasons), they were publicly defended by acknowledgedly " black" newspapers. Wikipedia didn't mention their race.

I don't wanna be on the side of Wulf and Rap here, but I think you might be using a bad example.

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Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:35 PM

Thanx, NewOld...when I heard about it, it seemed to indicate most of them were white. Ah, well, changes nothing really. Those were 'novel' at the time, and now they're but a distant memory. So "novel" doesn't mean anything, and it's not important really. A mob is a mob is a mob, and if it is violent, ways need to be found to stop it. Black, white, green, purple; it's only our terrified righties who find it soooo important what color their skin is.

True RWAs our guys, scared of every shadow, seeing apocalypse around every corner. I take pleasure in their fear, it shows them for what they are.


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