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Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:42 PM

Hello,

Isn't that the case where the accused were eventually exonerated by DNA evidence, and a man named Matias Reyes was eventually convicted?

--Anthony



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Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:53 PM

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2008/08/police_arrest_man_in_
portland.html


Hello,

Here is a recent 'wilding' article from 2008. It appears that the composition of the criminals is mixed, with three of them definitely not 'Black.'

This is evidence of 'wilding' activity (to use the article's terminology) that does not correspond to stereotype.

--Anthony



_______________________________________________

“If you are not free to choose wrongly and irresponsibly, you are not free at all”

Jacob Hornberger

“Freedom is not worth having if it does not connote freedom to err. It passes my comprehension how human beings, be they ever so experienced and able, can delight in depriving other human beings of that precious right.”

Mahatma Gandhi

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Wednesday, August 24, 2011 4:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

Isn't that the case where the accused were eventually exonerated by DNA evidence, and a man named Matias Reyes was eventually convicted?

--Anthony



_______________________________________________

“If you are not free to choose wrongly and irresponsibly, you are not free at all”

Jacob Hornberger

“Freedom is not worth having if it does not connote freedom to err. It passes my comprehension how human beings, be they ever so experienced and able, can delight in depriving other human beings of that precious right.”

Mahatma Gandhi



You are correct. I simplified ( in truth, OVER-SIMPLIFIED) the long and complex Wikipedia article. That is why I wrote, " originally convicted." It appears that the whole thing may have been a racist mis-interpretation by NYPD detectives, which I bought into. Or maybe years of spin by both sides. Factually, it does appear that none of the black teenagers can be linked to the assault by DNA evidence, but that Reyes CAN, although there are inconsistencies in his story. Nobody mentions his race, either.

All I remembered, truthfully, was the publicity at the time of the crime. Seems, as I remember it, that a lot of black institutions were like today's mayor of Philly, willing to admit that black teens HAD engaged in the behavior, and that they therefore needed to correct themselves.

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Wednesday, August 24, 2011 5:21 PM

Thanx, Anthony, it appears my original comments weren't as off the mark as I thought. Couple of whites, couple of blacks, couple of hispanics. A truly color-blind "mob", as it were.


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Wednesday, August 24, 2011 5:38 PM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2008/08/police_arrest_man_in_
portland.html


Hello,

Here is a recent 'wilding' article from 2008. It appears that the composition of the criminals is mixed, with three of them definitely not 'Black.'



Uh, oh. You might make Wulfie cry.

If he has the balls to even acknowledge this.

Which I doubt.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Wednesday, August 24, 2011 5:41 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
This is novel, and I'm for you to claim otherwise is simply ridiculous.




Just preserving this as evidence of the Raptard's typical butchering of language in his never-ending quest to avoid direct questions and be the biggest neocon douche he can be.




Preserve away, but what you falsely label me as doesn't change the facts.

I have addressed the direct question, but you aren't hearing me. Probably because you don't want to. I really don't care.

And as so often the case, you toss our an inaccurate term to describe me as.. 'necon'. Much like 'fascist', you have to stand the definitions on their heads before you can accurately apply them to me.

But alas, details to you are like water off a duck's back.


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Wednesday, August 24, 2011 5:59 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Thanx, Anthony, it appears my original comments weren't as off the mark as I thought. Couple of whites, couple of blacks, couple of hispanics. A truly color-blind "mob", as it were.


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Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off




Niki,
I'm sure you've seen my reply to Antony by now.
If I owe you an apology, one is respectfully submitted.

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Wednesday, August 24, 2011 6:28 PM

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Thanx, NewOld...when I heard about it, it seemed to indicate most of them were white. Ah, well, changes nothing really. Those were 'novel' at the time, and now they're but a distant memory. So "novel" doesn't mean anything, and it's not important really. A mob is a mob is a mob, and if it is violent, ways need to be found to stop it. Black, white, green, purple; it's only our terrified righties who find it soooo important what color their skin is.

True RWAs our guys, scared of every shadow, seeing apocalypse around every corner. I take pleasure in their fear, it shows them for what they are.


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Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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Anyone here remember Michael Griffith being killed by a white "flash mob" in Howard Beach, New York? What about Willie Turks or Yusuf Hawkins?

Apparently white mob violence was a big enough issue at the time to inspire Spike Lee's masterpiece "Do the Right Thing". It all seem so distant and novel now...

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Thursday, August 25, 2011 4:15 PM

Silly NewOld, dinna fash yerself; of course you don't need to apologize! I wasn't sure myself, and it could have been either, I'm glad Anthony clarified it for us.

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These kinds of activities are all carried out by poor, angry, desperate people who have disconnected from society because they feel that society has disconnected from them. There's no color-coded technique for solving that problem. It's a people problem. If we reduce the amount of poor, angry, desperate people in our neighborhoods, we will consequently reduce the amount of thieves, thugs, and vandals in the world.
That's the valid point and the ONLY valid point. That there are black people doing it is totally irrelevant; it's happened all through history and will continue to happen wherever there are disenfranchised people and huge gaps between the haves and the have nots.

It's only Wulf and Raptor who are so adamant that because it's MOSTLY black people (not all, little guys, we've already proven that), it's a new and terrifying thing. We know they're terrified, we know why, and we know it's irrelevant.

I love how Raptor says he's answered the "direct question", when he hasn't answered ANY of the questions, just gone on repeating his assertion that this is something it's not. Fear, fear, fear; must really suck to be you two scared whiteys. I could say something about all the black people who've been abused by people in positions of authority (cops) who have often utilized brute force which nobody can stop, but naturally those are the "good guys" and, because these hooligans are MOSTLY black, they must be something new and especially terrifying. Poor Wulf, poor Raptor, stuck in their fear of a race of people behaving like other people have throughout history!

I can just see them, down in their basement on their computers, cowering in fear: "No! No! The blacks are out to get us (me)! Where are the cops to protect us? Look! Look everyone! It's a mob of black people, and they're going to take over the whole COUNTRY! Why isn't everyone paying ATTENTION?!" Poor little men. What can you say/do?

It's so funny that they've been crowing "We're gonna take up arms and GIT all you liberals and socialists !" all this time, then have them reverse themselves when (omigawd ) it's OTHERS who are acting out. Ah, the irony of it all...


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Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
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Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:17 PM

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s so funny that they've been crowing "We're gonna take up arms and GIT all you liberals and socialists!" all this time, then have them reverse themselves when (omigawd) it's OTHERS who are acting out. Ah, the irony of it all...



Oh, indeed. As I pointed out before, Wulfie's really just mad that someone else beat him to it and showed some initiative to do what he's far too cowardly to do himself.

Wulfie, I think you should go right into Harlem or "Bodymore" and really show 'em how it's done. Go ahead. You can be a mob of one!




"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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