Black Flash Mobs
POSTED BY: Wulfenstar
UPDATED: Monday, June 17, 2024 21:46
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Originally posted by Storymark:
Is there a word that covers racist and fucking stupid?
Yes. "Racist". The "fucking stupid" is implied in the word. :)
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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Please cite any evidence you have that the Flash Mobs are motivated by race.
...and the Mobs being made up of Black people does not prove racial motivation.
If they are not, or you can't not then race plays no part in it
So, which is it ? You want evidence, or you don't ? You can't dismiss flash mobs composed of 1 race and then say " nope, that's not motivated by race ", what ever the hell that's suppose to mean.
So if I show you a picture of nothing but a bunch of white folks at a tea party flash mob, you agree that they are motivated by race? Is that what you're telling us?
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
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So, which is it ? You want evidence, or you don't ? You can't dismiss flash mobs composed of 1 race and then say " nope, that's not motivated by race ", what ever the hell that's suppose to mean.
Just because a flash Mob is made up of a single race it does not mean they are racially motivated. That is that same as seeing a group of white people holding Anti-Obama signs and claiming they are racist, because they are all white.
Good to see that you equate free speech to vandalism, theft and violence.
So it's your assumption that any time a group of black people gathers in the same place, it has to involve vandalism, theft, and violence?
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
what does that even mean ? racially 'motivated' ? O.K., so it wasn't motivated by race, but it was participated BY one race, and that sort of activity is tolerated by one race...
Say 'culture', if it makes you feel any better, but how ever you label it, you can't deny the make up of WHO is doing the activity.
Well, maybe YOU can.
Really it is tolerated by a race? So Black people tolerate Flash Mobs? No Black person speaks out against them?
Culture is the correct word. Cultrue and Race are not the same things. Flash Mobs are a culture of violence, rebellion and group mentality. That culture does seem to be centered within the Black community. It is not the entire Black community.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
I disagree with the notion that flash mobs are inherently violent. I've seen several flash mobs, and I've NEVER seen any violence involved in one.
And I have no reason to assume that a flash mob composed of only black people is inherently more likely to be violent than a flash mob composed of white people or of mixed races and cultures.
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
I seem to recall the London riots were perpetrated by a number of races. There was fairly universal denouncement of all of it, by members of the same races that were participating in it. There were also members of who approved.
It's never all or none.
I think this was mentioned in something I posted, or maybe I heard, but what initially stated off in the black community was quickly adopted by other groups as well. The muslims in London had been calling for something of this sort for some time, but as it turned out, even kids of the well-to-do got caught up in the rioting.
So it's not so much a "subset of the black community" as it is a subset of the ENTIRE community.
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
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Originally posted by Storymark:
Is there a word that covers racist and fucking stupid?
Yes. "Racist". The "fucking stupid" is implied in the word. :)
Oh, there's a level of stupid inherently tied to racism, no doubt. But there are still intelligent racists.
And then there are dumb motherfuckers like Wulfie and Rap.
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Sorry, but you blew the possibility of recieving tactical advice from me the moment you brought race into it cause it reveals that you essentially want excuses for racially motivated homicide.
World is better off without your ass, and while I've little moral cause to make that happen, I have even less to prevent it from happening.
So essentially, screw you.
-Frem
I do not serve the Blind God.
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
I disagree with the notion that flash mobs are inherently violent. I've seen several flash mobs, and I've NEVER seen any violence involved in one.
And I have no reason to assume that a flash mob composed of only black people is inherently more likely to be violent than a flash mob composed of white people or of mixed races and cultures.
Your right, not all flash mobs are violent. We are talking about the ones that are so we should be saying violent flash mobs, or in some cases flash robs.
The thing is the violent flash mobs/robs that have been reported are almost entirely young black males. If you Google search "violent flash mobs" you can see that.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Sorry, but you blew the possibility of recieving tactical advice from me the moment you brought race into it cause it reveals that you essentially want excuses for racially motivated homicide.
That was entirely the impression I got from Wulfie's posts.
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Your right, not all flash mobs are violent. We are talking about the ones that are so we should be saying violent flash mobs, or in some cases flash robs.
The thing is the violent flash mobs/robs that have been reported are almost entirely young black males. If you Google search "violent flash mobs" you can see that.
Nick, thanks for clarifying.
If it's a "cultural" thing, like planking or ghost-riding or any of the other stupid shit young kids get up to, I'm not real sure that there IS much you can do to stop it, except to let it burn out like so many other fads do.
I mean, other than posting five armed cops on every corner, what do y'all propose? Should we get worked up about this and impose MORE of a police state than we already have? Shall we embrace Wulfie's nihilistic fantasy and just start shooting every third black kid on the basis that if he isn't a hoodlum yet, he'll likely turn into one anyway?
I'm of the opinion that life is risk, and freedom can be a bit messy. There are things that are worth worrying about, and these kinds of manufactured panics aren't even a blip on a gnat's ass in the overall picture. I worry more about the robbery and murder and mayhem committed by "flash mobs" of hydraulic fracturing crews showing up on nearby land than I do about these mythical violent mobs, because fracking actually DOES kill people, and lots of them.
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Hello Wulf,
The reason you are meeting resistance to your question is because the question itself is inherently flawed.
It posits first that there are flash mobs that refuse to enlist any but a single race of people. This is an unproven premise, but it is not the worst failure contained within the question.
The worst failure of the question is the idea that 'Black' flash mobs (if they exist) require special tactics unique from any other mob of assailants. As though 'black' people have unique inherent traits that make them especially impervious to normal tactics, or especially vulnerable to extraordinary tactics. In essence, it treats these 'black' people as though they are a different species of creature drastically different from other humans. It's akin to asking how to defend against mobs of Xenomorphs.
In reality, mobs of people can be dealt with in an identical fashion regardless of their race. The objectives and motivations of the people in the group are much more important than the race of the individuals who comprise it. In general, when confronted by a large mass of hostile people, escape should be your primary goal. If escape is impossible, then you should hide somewhere safe. If hiding and escape are impossible, then you should place yourself in a position where you cannot be flanked, make it as defensible as possible, and hope that the assailants are in too much of a hurry (or too interested in other objectives) to dig you out.
I do NOT recommend resorting to violence except as a last resort when all other options have failed. Not least because in any large group of people, there will be individuals who do not deserve the violence you are eager to bring against them.
I know from personal experience what it is to be randomly targeted by a large group of people. I was involved in 'Flash Mobs' of violence before the words even existed as a pairing. The only person I ever harmed while 'defending' myself was an innocent boy.
In reality, I wasn't defending myself at all. The damage was done. I was looking for payback, because how DARE these people attack me? I was MAD AS HELL, and NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!
I was a child, Wulf. I thought as a child. You sound to me like that child, looking back at me across the decades. Only I think you never learned the valuable lessons I did. I think you still crave revenge against injustice, somehow overlooking how the revenge itself can become an injustice. I think you spend your days and nights imagining every conceivable sort of battle. How would you succeed in this situation? Or that situation? Except your imaginings are not the result of the grim awareness of life's dangers. They are borne of the exultant exuberance of someone dreaming of the day when they might strike back at the evils of the world.
Am I wrong in my perceptions of you? You will surely say so. The truth is that I don't know you, Wulf. But I do have this piece of yourself that you've given me to look at. You keep showing it to me, and so it's all I have to go on.
And it makes me sad.
--Anthony
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