I'd like to discuss this theory rationally

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Obama Bin Laden during Pakistan's raid in the White House Situation Closet

Facts as admitted by the White House so far:

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Navy SEALS made no raid on the "compound"

Paki raided the house for routine arrests

There was no "firefight"

Navy SEALS picked up the arrested man who "looked a little like Bin Laden because he had a beard"

Navy SEALS then tortured and executed that unarmed POW and dumped his body in the ocean, no lawyer and no trial allowed

CIA director General BetrayUS was staying 100 yards from that house 1 year ago, at the Paki military compound next door in that city

Obama said on 60 Minutes yesterday that NO photos nor videos will EVER be released on this fake Bin Laden patsy

Osama Bin Laden is an Israeli jew whose mother is a jew living in Israel, where only jews are allowed citizenship or land ownership. Osama Bin Laden made most of his $100-million fortune working for Israeli jewish diamond dealers. Al Qaeda is run entirely by jews in USA, like Adam Gadahn Perlman and Zbigniew Brezenski the founder of AllCIA with Osama Bin Laden (CIA code name Tim Osman). Barack Hussein Obama Soetoro has been a member of Al Qaeda since 1980, when he traveled to Pakistan to meet with Brezenski and Bin Laden.

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OBAMA REFUSES TO RELEASE OSAMA DEATH PHOTOS
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/05/04/2011-05-04_preside
nt_obama_will_not_release_osama_bin_laden_death_photos_report.html

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Purported “Bin Laden Raid Kill Photos Released”

Earlier today, Osama announced he will not release photographs taken by the U.S. military after it purportedly executed Osama bin Laden, members of his family, and others at a house located in the military garrison town of Abbottabad, just north of Pakistan’s capital.

In an ongoing effort to bait the hook and heighten the drama around the release of photos the government will eventually offer as definitive proof Osama bin Laden was killed by Nay Seals, the corporate media has released a gruesome photo of a dead man in Pakistan. A second photo shows the trash-strewn grounds of the compound where the government alleges Bin Laden was hiding out.



The man is not Osama bin Laden. It is one of several said to have been sold to Reuters by an anonymous Pakistani security official. The close-cropped pictures do not show any weapons on the dead men, according to Reuters.







http://www.infowars.com/purported-bin-laden-raid-kill-photos-released/

http://www.tediosity.com/2011/05/03/the-real-osama-bin-laden-dead-phot
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Top US government insider Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, a man who held numerous different influential positions under three different Presidents and still works with the Defense Department, shockingly told The Alex Jones Show yesterday that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 and that he was prepared to testify in front of a grand jury how a top general told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag inside job.

Pieczenik cannot be dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist”. He served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter, while also working under Reagan and Bush senior, and still works as a consultant for the Department of Defense. A former US Navy Captain, Pieczenik achieved two prestigious Harry C. Solomon Awards at the Harvard Medical School as he simultaneously completed a PhD at MIT.

Recruited by Lawrence Eagleburger as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Management, Pieczenik went on to develop, “the basic tenets for psychological warfare, counter terrorism, strategy and tactics for transcultural negotiations for the US State Department, military and intelligence communities and other agencies of the US Governm

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Byte, don't jump ship - the agreement likely won't last! It never does, does it?

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I explained some of the reasons why not a lot (I any) questions would be asked about the house and who occupied it, but that seems to have gone unnoticed even here, much less in the (I would say more ignorant) wider media. I saw some reporter standing next to the compound walls and waving to show how high they were. They were almost EXACTLY the same height as the compound walls around our home in Afghanistan. We didn’t have barbed wire at the top, I will give you, but the height of the compound walls, in two countries where many, many people live behind equally high walls, made me grimace when I saw it. Sure, Americans aren’t used to compound walls, but every American and other foreigner in Kabul lived that way, except the Russians. They all lived within ONE building, also surrounded by high compound walls.

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Our house in Taiwan was surrounded by 8' brick walls topped with spikes. And that was in a "friendly" country!

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Oh, and just because it's so fucking apropos, and because it's funny AND really fucking sad because it's so true, may I present Kliban's "The General's Game":

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The government of Pakistan is different from the people of Pakistan. We're technically at war with the Pashtun, who live in Pakistan. We have some Pakistan forces we're working with, and we have a Pakistan president whose been on our side, but they're starting to turn against us as well.

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That's not war; DT made the statement that we'd BEEN AT WAR WITH PAKISTAN for some time.

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The public, mostly. Happy posted some response he read on a friend's facebook about how Pakistan ought to watch their backs less America decides to group them with Osama's friends, my parents are of the firm opinion we should turn Afghanistan AND Pakistan into glass... You hear enough whispering and hostility from the public and you start to wonder where it's coming from and who's feeding it.

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The people aren’t the government; we don’t make the decision to go to war. If we did, we’d have been at war IN Afghanistan (not WITH Afghanistan) back when we first went there and we’d have finished back then, and never gone to Iraq. I’m saying it appears to me that what the governments are saying to one another is more like the usual posturing and saber rattling. Of course some people are head up enough to want to “nuke ‘em, nuke ‘em one and all” and sure aren’t whispering it! It’s the nature of some people...just as it is the nature of some of those at the ground zero celebrations to holler ugly things about bin Laden’s death. None of that means we’re going to war, and it doesn’t have to COME from anywhere nor be fed. It’s the citizenry pissed off; that doesn’t mean our government is considering invading Pakistan.

Me, I'd like to see 'em cut off all those billions going to Pakistan, at least until we have some semblance of belief that they are actually allies, rather than just fair-weather friends! Won't happen, but that's the "retaliation" I'D like to see, and others are calling for it too. But war? Not happening. In my opinion, not gonna. Or Iran.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Our house in Taiwan was surrounded by 8' brick walls topped with spikes. And that was in a "friendly" country!

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And there you go. Most Americans know so little of the rest of the world that what is perfectly natural elsewhere says things to us which aren't even slightly related to reality...I've seen it so many times about so many things, and this "compound wall" thing really galled me!

As an aside, PN really is one sick sonofabitch. I actually almost started reading his post; luckily I got as far as his supposed "things admitted by the White House" and came to my senses. Whew! That was a close one! Think I'll go have some ice cream to celebrate those 5-10 minutes of my life that I saved!


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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Fair enough, but it's something to keep our eyes on I think.

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Mike,

that level of cynicism s worthy of Frem or PN, minus the blood and molech. I'm impressed. It's also pretty on target might one thing: Generals don't get injured in this sport, they spar by hit babies against the other general's babies.

Just curious: Mike, are you Taiwanese or an army brat?


Byte,

I think the AI could use a human hand, but I don't know if it needs a gatekeeper in an HMO sense. My opinion on the AI would really depend a lot on my analysis of the particular AI. The more links it had to the military industrial complex, the more suspicious of it I would be, but that wouldn't automatically doom it. After all, this information system we're using was a product of that complex.


John,

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Osama Bin Laden is an Israeli jew whose mother is a jew living in Israel, where only jews are allowed citizenship or land ownership. Osama Bin Laden made most of his $100-million fortune working for Israeli jewish diamond dealers. Al Qaeda is run entirely by jews in USA, like Adam Gadahn Perlman and Zbigniew Brezenski the founder of AllCIA with Osama Bin Laden (CIA code name Tim Osman). Barack Hussein Obama Soetoro has been a member of Al Qaeda since 1980, when he traveled to Pakistan to meet with Brezenski and Bin Laden.

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Should not go under "things admitted by the white house."


Have you just had it? Do you need a stress break? If you're going to photoshop Bin Laden into places badly (is that a hawaiian shirt?) do something interesting, like Dancing with the Stars.

As for the gore shock value, it's a FAIL. There's people like me and Frem who have seen enough gore that it's going to have no effect on, and there are people here who it will have such a traumatic effect on that they won't read your post, but it's not going to make people stop in awe, it's just going to make them notice the blatant baiting, as if your posts contained links at the end that said the rest of this paragraph is contained at my zombie.com please sign in to read more...

Marfan syndrome? I won't totally discount that. It's not a very rare disease, esp. among the abnormally tall. I read a couple other diagnoses, and one was a lung disorder that he was treated for, which would be consistent.

People with major genetic damage to their structural system have widespread physical health problems, and so given his kidney problems and diabetes, it's possible that all of this fit Marfan's as easily as it would fit systematic opiate abuse. At this point, it's hard to tell what specifically killed him, but he was definitely not a well man. He had made several check ins to hospitals in his last year.

I seem to recall Condi singing Amazing Grace, I find this inconsistent with a collaborator. Cheney I would find it much easier to believe, and Hadley absolutely, and Wolfowitz. Elliott Abrams is a possible, I might throw another couple names in there for people who might have been inside guys. Silverstein is high on my list. Rummy possibly. Perle and Kristol, and I might throw Hillary in there, being as she was heading a committee constructing the Patriot act in Aug. a piece of legislation that had zero chance absent an event like 9.11. Anyone on the Patriot act committee or the PNAC committee is a suspect. Of course, with one or two inside guys, they can direct the rest of govt. to play ball with a game that, once played out, could be so costly to admit to, that everyone plays part in the cover up.

Picture what the cost would have been in November of 2001 if the US govt. came out and said "Hey, guys, we did it." Not only would the admin be impeached, the whole govt. would fall.

IMHO, WWIII has already begun, though I would agree that it takes another world power's involvement to make it official. At the moment it's just us against a muslim alliance. I still figure there are three other major world players: Russia, China and India.



Niki,

Fair enough, almost. Remember how I just said that we seem to have switched positions out of an emotional need? I think the poll would show t

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