Will religion become extinct?

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BYTEMITE

Monday, March 28, 2011 7:43 PM

No problem. Just keepin' it real.

DREAMTROVE

Monday, March 28, 2011 8:04 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bytemite:
I'd really kinda like to know where DT gets the whole "they were bumping like bunnies" thing from. I could maybe see their spouses, but not much more than that.

And that doesn't necessarily make them laid back or save them from asshattery, which they were guilty of. Oliver Cromwell wasn't such a swell guy when he had power over parliament (genocide is an apt term, he killed off a bunch of catholics, particularly Irish and Scottish), and we know what they did to the Indians when they got here.

The neo-prudence thing is fairly true, that came around with the Hayes Code. There's always been people perfectly fine with producing smut and obscenity (and I don't say that in a bad way) in all eras, and the stick-up-backside people who opposed them yelling fire and brimstone.

I'll have to dig it up, but my sister is much more of a historian than I, and a lot of the early writings were basically tot he point that orgasms brought you closer to god, and if your womenfolk weren't having them, it meant god wasn't happy with you, etc. It was pretty funny to read given the image they have.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

BYTEMITE

Monday, March 28, 2011 8:20 PM

Hmm, that's interesting. That's actually a fairly pagan perspective. A hieros gamos thing. Deists also kinda believed that sort of thing, with the idea that man could become god (apotheosis), as well as the Free Masons with their alchemy and geometry research.

For Christianity in general, as far as I'm aware, the bible actually discourages the idea of hieros gamos, warning against the hierodules of enemy cultures and such. But there's a lot of contradiction in the bible, and I can see how belief in a "benevolent" God, combined with the passages about apotheosis, might lead to this development.

I suppose eventually sanity will appear in any belief system by simple virtue of cause and effect.

But yeah, that still suggests to me that was only with the spouses, and that the rest of the culture was pretty strict.

MAGONSDAUGHTER

Monday, March 28, 2011 8:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by TheHappyTrader:
OMG for the last time I have no problem with your opinions. The sentence applied to me and said fact. It was not a fact and I objected to the word fact. You have every right to have the opinion I'm stupid, racist, prudish, lustful, sexist, intelligent, open-minded or the opposite. You tell me it's a fact that I (insert negative descriptor here) and you are lying. Simple as that. On this board, I am the authority on all things myself. I'm not perfect, but I do know what my facts are and I will correct misinterpretations. I hope no one was a problem with that.

Did I say fact? I don't remember doing that. Oh yeah, I did. Oops.

RIONAEIRE

Tuesday, March 29, 2011 2:11 AM

Happy, I'm sorry you are frustrated. I agree that saying point blank that a specific religeon, or religeon in general, is undesirable is rude if you do it in a public place like a forum. I personally would only say a specific religeon was undesirable at home with close friends, so the general public didn't hear me because that seems like a social no-no to me when in mixed company. So if someone wants to say that in mixed company then they can, they have the right of course, I just see it as less than tactful and lacking decorum.

As for banning scientology I agree with Byte, its a bad idea. Even though I think its goofy I have no right to ban it, nor would I choose to if I did have the authority.

As for the Puritans, they scare me. If they believe that people should boink like bunnies (rut like rabbits is my expression) with their spouses than more power to em, that's how I feel and something I intend to put into full practice as soon as I get married.
:)

But yeah, the Puritans scare the crap out of me, too fanatical.

Good point Hardware and realistic.

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HARDWARE

Tuesday, March 29, 2011 3:31 AM

Niki and Frem:
RE: Religions that decide their morality is the only one that God wants.

Agreed, this is a bad idea. DEATH TO FANATICS!!!

Which justifies the whole freedom of religion idea. Which I am NOT going to argue. A established state religion is a bad idea. I believe England had some problems with that idea, too.

The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.

...and he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36

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