Will religion become extinct?

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KWICKO

Friday, March 25, 2011 4:09 AM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:

Actually, a minority of the world's religions believe in prayer and hell.

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I suppose this conversation has reached a point where I must admit I'm an atheist and a scientist.

Before we commence open warfare, I would like to negotiate my own neutrality, mostly because I want to peg people with some water balloons. And you think you'll expect it because I just told you.

But you won't.

You just haven't met the right god yet ;)

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

I haven't met ANY god yet. They tend to make themselves invisible, it seems.

MAGONSDAUGHTER

Friday, March 25, 2011 4:09 AM

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'Cause, y'know, religion would NEVER attack science, right?

Right?

Exactly, though I wouldn't put that kind of behavior past a few religious people, atheists, or scientists.

We can speak of hypotheticals and list all manner of examples presumably from personal experiences and the like, but I'd like to point out that right here, right now, in this thread, religious people of RWED are not attacking science or scientists. Can the same be said of the atheists?

I appreciate that, for the most part, y'all don't seem to hold our differences concerning religion against me, but there is not shortage of vitriol aimed at Christianity in general and no one seems to have a problem with it. I don't let it bother me, that's just kinda how the internet seems to work. I just wanted to point out that for all the supposed 'aggressive Christians' that are out there, you don't see much of that here in RWED... Seem's like the atheist are more aggressive

I'm not sure that I've seen any major attacks on religion here,certainly nothing aggressive,(I'm not counting Kaneman who is a troll) just discussions around why science makes more sense to some people than religion, as well as how some people feel that can reconcile both science and religion.

The fact that you find it difficult to hear people express their views on religion, which are different to your own, demonstrates one of the major problems that besets religion - the mere existence of dissent is seen as attack and therefore should be shut down.

THEHAPPYTRADER

Friday, March 25, 2011 4:13 AM

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The fact that you find it difficult to hear people express their views on religion

Oh really? I wasn't aware. Are Australians psychic too?

PHOENIXROSE

Friday, March 25, 2011 4:18 AM

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I disagree with some of what you've said from a scientific standpoint (not religious) but this sounds a mite emotional...

Try me. I won't deny that the changes in my life have had a profound impact on me, so maybe it is emotional to an extent, but if there's something that I don't want to talk about, I can say that. I'm currently studying for a degree in science, and grow ever more calm and rational.

I do not need the written code of a spiritual belief to act like a decent human being.

THEHAPPYTRADER

Friday, March 25, 2011 4:29 AM

Coolies

It's not about your life. I was just going to remark that I think it's a little early to mock our "poor design" when we're still just beginning to discover how it really works, especially concerning the brain.

That's really it, just wanted to minimize disagreements in case things weren't cool.

KWICKO

Friday, March 25, 2011 4:40 AM

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Originally posted by TheHappyTrader:
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The fact that you find it difficult to hear people express their views on religion

Oh really? I wasn't aware. Are Australians psychic too?

What you call "psychic", others call "observant". Not in any religious sense of the word. Just in the "paying attention" sense.

It didn't take a psychic to foresee how conservatives were going to react to Obama's Libyan adventure. They were mad because he wasn't bombing, right up until he started bombing, and then they were mad because he was bombing, which they never supported. They were mad because he wasn't imposing a no-fly zone, either unilaterally or with the help of the UN, NATO, or Manny, Moe, and Jack - until he agreed to help the UN and NATO impose a no-fly zone, which they would NEVER have done. They were mad when he didn't "consult Congress", which they spell "lie to Congress" - but that was only because it didn't give them time to voice their disapproval BEFORE he didn't do whatever it was they wanted, then didn't want, him to do, or not do.

That's not called "being psychic." That's called "being awake."

It seems the only "psychics" on this board are the conservatives and neo-cons, who were sure all the "liberals" around here would all cheer Obama's latest actions (I'm not devining that information; it's posted for all to see). So far, few (if any) have cheered it. Rappy *kind of* came close, in a semi-lukewarm way, but that's only because it was the weekend, Americans were killing brown people (which he's always in favor of), and FauxNews hadn't told him how to feel about it yet (really, look at his posts - he didn't take a stand until Beck, LImbaugh, and O'Reilly told him what to think).

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

KWICKO

Friday, March 25, 2011 4:41 AM

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Originally posted by TheHappyTrader:

It's not about your life. I was just going to remark that I think it's a little early to mock our "poor design" when we're still just beginning to discover how it really works, especially concerning the brain.

DMAANLILEILTT

Friday, March 25, 2011 4:48 AM

No, we're just always right.

And as far as I know, facism is not an athiestic philosophy: "Without pledging ourselves to any particular Confession, we have restored faith to its pre-requisites because we were convinced that the people needs [sic] and requires [sic] this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out." Adolf Hitler, 1933.

"I really am ruggedly handsome, aren't I?"

THEHAPPYTRADER

Friday, March 25, 2011 4:49 AM

I was commenting on the ASSumption (to borrow more from my moronic thread) that I had a problem with differing opinions. But that was my mistake. Clearly I should not be speaking for myself, but as a 'nameless concervative No 2460whatever.'

I'll just stop typing and let everyone not me decide how I really feel about this. That's democratic, right?

BYTEMITE

Friday, March 25, 2011 4:49 AM

I'd point out the flaws in our reproductive system sooner than I'd point out any mental problems.

Bipedalism --> narrow hips, and then we SOMEHOW end up selecting for ginormous skulls to pass through the birth canal? Where does death by childbirth become conducive for the continuance of the species? Pretty crazy.

I'm assuming a role like the mid-wife had to start appearing in the primitive cultures of the pre-humans at about the time, because it doesn't make much sense otherwise.

I also have words to say about that whole messed up telomerase thing, plus cancer susceptibilities in the genes. Wish the universe had a complaints compartment.

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