Arizona Rep. Giffords shot, several wounded

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Originally posted by piratenews:

Cops arrested Jared Lee Loughner for traffic stop on day of Ariz. shooting, provoked shooter into killing rage

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Do you even read your own shit? He wasn't arrested, moron. Nor did any traffic stop provoke him into anything.

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ALL traffic stops are arrests, with or without a ticket or booking in jail. Just ask any cop, or read a cop textbook or appellate court opinion. A "detention" is an "arrest".

What do you think will happen if you DON'T stop for the cop? The cops WILL KILL YOU. (Unless you have a very fast vehicle, a good getaway route, and a place to hide out, and plans to move away from the jurisdiction.)

That's why lawyers agree, always ask a cop during a traffic stop, "Am I under arrest, am I free to go?" The cop will ALWAYS say, "No you are not free to go."

All state legislatures write statutes defining traffic stops as crimes subject to JAIL, except for a few states like Florida, who will still KILL YOU if you don't stop for the cop to give you a "civil" traffic ticket.

Everybody hates cops, especially during 100-million annual traffic stops in Amerika, to enforce the 6th Plank of the Communist Manifesto.

Read about the Battle of Athens Tennessee, the 24-hour gunfight between 500 veterans and 300 cops over speeding tickets, with the citizens using full-auto machine guns and dynomite.


http://piratenews-tv.blogspot.com/2008/02/battle-of-athens.html

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Loughner didn't murder that 9-year-old little girl...doctors did:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41094143/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

It's impossible to harvest organs from dead people.

Only living people can be killed for hot steaming fresh organs...

FBI recruited and gave bomb to Christmas Tree Bomber to trick Portland Oregon to rejoin FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force (just like Jared Loughner...?)
http://www.infowars.com/contrived-christmas-tree-terror-plot-to-stampe
de-portland-into-accepting-fbi-takeove/

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Mossad Operative Nikovich12 wrote:

Giffords was not shot by "Satanic Gay Commie Jew Democrat", that is simply your typical TOTALLY STUPID way to insert your "agenda" into threads. I wish to hell you'd stop that; barring that, I wish you'd stop changing OTHER people's threads to reflect your own insane beliefs (if you even BELIEVE the ridiculous titles you put up, most of which are lies).

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www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/us-politics/825108
5/Gabrielle-Giffords-shooting-Jared-Loughner-may-have-been-influenced-by-occult.html

LOUGHNER AND GIFFORDS WERE MEMBERS OF THE SAME SYNOGUE SAYS FRIEND
www.nytimes.com/2011/01/10/us/10shooter.html?pagewanted=3&_r=1&hp
http://blogs.jta.org/politics/article/2011/01/10/2742483/is-loughners-
mother-jewish
www./motherjones.com/politics/2011/01/jared-lee-loughner-friend-voicem
ail-phone-message?page=1
www.whitenewsnow.com/forums/us-news-white-folks/13368-
loughner-jewish-but-his-synagogue-congregation-chaverim-hid-fact-america.html

"Not a single issue voter, but if I was, gay rights would be it. I just want Democrats to be tough. And I wish Obama were tougher. That’s all. I’m a proud gay. I had favorite books: The Communist Manifesto."
-Jared Lee Loughner (or his sockpuppet)
www.businessinsider.com/jared-lee-loughner-2011-1

"The federal government does nothing to secure our border."
-Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ -- "former" Republican)

"If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun."
-Dictator Hussein Obama Soetoro
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Obama_brings_a_gun_to_a_kn
ife_fight.html

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AZ SHOOTING: RIGHT PROTECTS ADL/SPLC ACCUSERS

By Rev. Ted Pike
17 Jan 11

It is now more than a week since Jared Loughner’s fusillade of gunfire shattered the political landscape. Today, there is still no evidence Loughner was significantly influenced by “uncivil” right-wing rhetoric. He is reportedly an angry, pot-smoking, mentally ill, Jewish Satanist acting out his own violent fantasies. Yet national response revolves around “uncivil” discourse from the right! This misuse of the tragedy was jumpstarted not only by rash accusations by Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik but by the Anti-Defamation League [of Luciferian Masonic B'Nai B'Rith] and Southern Poverty Law Center [run by homosexual pedophile incestuous jew Morris 'Dees' Seligman], two of the most powerful Christian-accusing Jewish supremacist groups. You would never learn their role from most commentary on all mainstream media; but within a day of the shooting, ADL and SPLC had already scripted the national conversation, teaching us false lessons they wanted us to learn.

That Sunday night, ADL's media alert asserted that religious right/Tea Party “incivility” should be a top suspect for influencing the violence. (See, ADL/SPLC: 'Incivility' of Right Probably Prompted AZ Shooting) Even earlier, Southern Poverty Law Center’s Mark Potok, on MSNBC, claimed there is much evidence that Loughner was influenced by the radical/conservative right.

Potok said there is a thread running through Loughner’s thoughts making it “pretty clear” he saw the government as the enemy. Books owned by Loughner, Potok alleges, carried a theme of anti-government sentiment. The madman admires Ayn Rand, high priestess of libertarian conservatives. He wants a return to gold and silver currency and wants government controls on grammar, an idea Potok claims “exists on the radical right." Loughner advocated for “conscience dreaming,” which Potok alleges is “almost certainly conscious dreaming,” which he says is a popular idea espoused by British controversialist David Icke. Loughner wanted to burn the flag, a desire Potok falsely alleges is shared by many on the radical right. He also believes our government is treasonous, as does the radical right, and that the government is involved in mind control. Like Sheriff Dupnik, Potok thinks the “white-hot” vitriol of the right makes it “not entirely surprising that Loughner acted out violently.” He wanted to harm politicians; he resembled Joe Stack whose anti-IRS rage caused him to fly into an Austin IRS building. Potok likens Loughner’s gunfire to the bricks thrown through the windows of Democrat offices, including Gabrielle Giffords' (presumably by anti-healthcare activists). Finally, the SPLC intelligence project director says there can be no exoneration for those who use charged imagery like Palin’s crosshairs, inflaming the disturbed. (See MSNBC Video with Potok)

In retrospect, none of Potok's accusations and innuendoes has been confirmed to accurately describe Loughner as significantly influenced by the right. Instead, he has been increasingly revealed to be a liberal-leaning Jew whose motives for shooting Giffords may have stemmed from reasons entirely unrelated to right-wing influences, perhaps from his family's association with Giffords as members of the same synagogue! (See Texe Marrs' Jared Loughner Is A Liberal Jewish Satanist)

MSNBC always interviews Mark Potok when there is any possibility of casting suspicion on the right. The powerful cable news channel is presided over by NBC/Universal president and CEO, Jewish Jeff Zukor. (Zukor produced NBC's “Book of Daniel” comedy, mocking a degenerate "Christian" family.) (See, Who's Behind NBC's "Book of Daniel?") Empowering Potok to influence a vast American audience, MSNBC pivotally encouraged the misdirected national debate this week. It continues to mock the religious right, especially the rampant “bigotry” of conservative Arizona.

The premature attack by Jewish media, ADL and SPLC must have been known to conservative voices like Hannity, [billionaire jew] Limbaugh, Bec

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John has a point.

A couple of them.

1) the guy is not a tea partier. He exhibits many characteristics inconsistent with this image, he does appear to be a gay jewish intellectual democrat.

2) he also seems to be a libertarian, and a communist, insane, and violent, his motives are unclear. I doubt this was over the healthcare bill, it was something more recent.

3) democrats also targeted Giffords, and she, as a republican blue dog democrat had as many democratic enemies as republican ones.

4) The primary motive in such crimes is to make a personal impact. The attack may in fact have been personal, rather than policy, both in the killers mind of self aggrandizement, and in the motivation and target choice.

5) the doctors did kill the child, who arrived in better shape than Giffords, but was not granted the same level of care. At the time they sacrificed her, she was still alive. We were not specifically told that there was heart damage, just chest, but even so, even with an irreparable heart, there were five other victims present as donors. I had already figured this one out, but had been avoiding commenting on it.


All that said, both PN's sources and MSM sources lack credibility. Heavy Metal does not damage your brain, Judaism is not satanism, etc. And anti-flag Is punk, the doors and Mimi hendrix are classic rock. I have all three on my mp3 playlist, but I don't think that's abnormal. Okay, not a lot of you have anti-flag on mp3, but some do, and most of you have the other two.

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Jared Lee Loughner also published on the internet pictures of the burning of the American flag and spoke disrespectfully of the U.S. Constitution. Conservatives and Tea Party people would never do that.

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This is pretty obvious. But there's more to the story:

Jared is a first class psycho. His rantings are not politically consistent at all. It's impossible to tell what he believes, or even if these beliefs drive him to action.

Personal connections with Giffords, a deep psychosis, and a desire to destroy the status quo seem to drive him, but its not steered by any sort of logic.

Analyzing his rants, i'd say he is atypical of any political bent, pure, and gets his nihilism from both sides, but his cultural spectrum of focus is well outside the Christian right. He also distinctly fits the ayn rand profile of psychology, as in completely self absorbed, but he does not list any of her works as his formative ones, and a disciple would never neglect their objectivist guru like that.

Pirate News is essentially correctly, even though there is much there which is not solidly ground on planet earth.

What I can say is that both sides have tried to make political hay out of it, to their shame.

I fall back on a campaign, apparently receiving death threats from both sides, not hiring security, and endangering the citizens. Add to that, a random lunatic trying to make an impact where he will be recognized, I'm not convinced he was driven to this by irresponsible rhetoric. But it probably didn't help.

The killer has an extraordinarily loose grip on reality.

Remember, the guy who shot reagan wanted to impress Jodie Foster, and the woman who shot Ford was protesting the imprisonment of Charles Manson. This guy would have shot Obama if he had been there, simply because he was a more newsworthy target, but he probably also would have shot McCain or Palin. If he had staying in school, he would have been a school shooter. I don't have a solution, except maybe less lethal weapons.

John Stewart did a decent piece on this, attacking Palin's hypocrisy, but frankly, I see it all over.

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Gawd, it's a pain scrolling past PN's endless blathering to see if there are any pertinent comments made by others! And it's also disgusting that he not only spews his own ugliness all over the forum, but changes others' titles to reflect the same insanity.

If ANYONE needs to be brought to the attention of the mental-health services...oh, but then I'm told he HAS, and is off his meds. I would feel sympathy for him if so, as I know a number of people who don't take meds and control their disorders just fine, but obviously he can't, or won't, so he's nothing but an irritant.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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