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Arizona Rep. Giffords shot, several wounded

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PIRATENEWS

Monday, January 10, 2011 9:21 PM

Liberal Smear Machine Backfires After Alleged Gunman Found To Be Satanic Atheist, Abortion-Loving, Open-Border Illegal Alien Loving, Pot-Smoking Long-Haired Liberal Commie Left-Wing Democrat Homosexual Transvestite
http://www.infowars.com/liberal-smear-machine-backfires-after-gunman-f
ound-to-be-occultist-pot-smoking-left-winger/

Animal rights lover volunteered at animal shelter before shooting Republicans

Shoot Out in Tuscon: Gun Owner Returns Fire at Giffords Massacre, Makes Citizen's Arrest of Shooter, as Cops Refuse to Allow Ambulances Help Victims
Mascara-wearing Fox News host Shepard Smith aghast that a MAN would fire back at a gunman in self-defense
http://www.infowars.com/return-fire-at-giffords-massacre/

Fox says "ex" Republican Giffords "sounds like a Republican" one week before her shooting:

Gun-banner Rep Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) promising bill today banning high-capacity magazines used in shooting
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47338.html

ATF Plans Gun Registration in AZ and Border States
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/constitution/5805-atf-p
lans-gun-registration-in-border-states

FBI Says Murdered Republican Judge Wanted to Talk to "Ex" Republican Giffords About Border Violence by Illegal Aliens, After He Killed President Clinton's Gun Registration Bill (US Supreme Court case of Sheriff Richard Mack vs U.S.)
http://www.politico.com/static/PPM156_pr_01092011_loughner.html
http://www.politico.com/blogs/joshgerstein/0111/Judges_final_actions_k
ey_to_federal_charge_for_his_murder.html

Top US Federal Judge Assassinated After Threat To Obama Agenda
A Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) report circulating in the Kremlin today states that the top US Federal Judge for the State of Arizona was assassinated barely 72-hours after he made a critical ruling against the Obama administrations plan to begin the confiscation of their citizen’s private retirement and banking accounts in order to stave off their nations imminent economic collapse, and after having the US Marshals protecting him removed. The case being ruled on by Judge Roll, this report continues, was about bulk cash smuggling into or out of the United States that the Obama administration claimed was their right to seize under what are called Presidential Executive Orders, instead of using existing laws. The Obama administration used as support for their claim before Judge Roll, the SVR says, the seizing of all American citizens’ gold, in 1933, by President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s signing of Executive Order 6102, which was ruled at the time to be constitutional. The most chilling of these powers Obama has asserted for himself, however, are contained in Executive Order 13528 he signed nearly a year ago (January 10, 2010) creating a Council of Governors he has hand-picked to rule over the United States in place of its elected representatives when their next “disaster” strikes and orders them to begin “synchronization and integration of State and Federal military activities in the United States; and other matters of mutual interest pertaining to National Guard, homeland defense, and civil support activities.” United States of America v. $333,520.00 in United States Currency et al, Case Number: 4:2010cv00703, Filed: November 30, 2010
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/arizona/azdce/4:2010cv00703/568697/
http://www.thetotalcollapse.com/top-us-federal-judge-assassinated-afte
r-threat-to-obama-agenda/

UNMANNED Border Crossings in USA:

Days after Giffords shooting, Feds announce plan to reopen UNMANNED border crossing
The unmanned port of entry will be monitored by immigration officials hundreds of miles away. U.S. citizens will scan their passports and the identity of Mexican nationals will be biometrically "confirmed" by self-serve computer...
http://travel.usatoday.com/destinations

WULFENSTAR

Monday, January 10, 2011 9:21 PM

Rue,

This was not a revolutionary moment. Just some fucknut with a brain full of bad wiring shooting randomnly at a target of oppurtunity.

Brave people, one a citizen with a pistol, brought him down. While most of the people couldn't figure out what was going on, or were playing dead, some people actually ACTED to stop this.

This is probably above your pay scale, and your mental capacity to understand.. but I thought I would give it a shot and put this into a perspective even you could get.

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

WULFENSTAR

Monday, January 10, 2011 9:27 PM

"Well, I can appreciate the argument that anything can be used as a tool. But surely, to limit what kind of OBVIOUS tools can be used is common sense. A guy crashing a car into a crowd of people on purpose will have no escape clause. The car is easily seen, the occupant is easily identified, the amount of consequential evidence that remains after the fact is so vast that it would be virtually impossible for the assailant to get away with it even if he evaded capture at the time.
with a gun, you can hide behind a tree half a mile away, you can take out who you like and you don't even need the guts to do it face to face.
A guy having a bad day can kill who he likes without suffering the consequences of his actions. That's the big difference."

You know there IS a reason we revolted, and won against you guys... right?

By the way, didn't you have someone ride around with a shotgun shooting up your paradise recently?

Hows that "knife crime" thing working out?

Also, you must feel safe knowing that from the minute you step outside you have a camera on you every minute of every waking hour.. have they figured out a way to get you subjects to have cameras in your homes yet?

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

MAGONSDAUGHTER

Monday, January 10, 2011 9:44 PM

You know it took this to reach the news here, before I even opened this thread.

Sadly, 'gunman open fires and kills....' is such common news from the US, that if it weren't for the senator being shot it probably would barely be news.

PIRATENEWS

Monday, January 10, 2011 9:48 PM

Jared Lee Loughner hires lawyer from CIA MKULTRA Unabomber
http://archives2011.gcnlive.com/Archives2011/jan11/AlexJones/0110111.m
p3

Dial 911 and Die: Granny tackles shooter first, cops nowhere to be found
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/01/10/2011-01-10_heroes_
emerge_in_wake_of_evil_brave_bystanders_subdued_killer.html

A Florida man went on a shooting rampage convinced that imaginary enemies were after him. While he wasn't looking, an 89-year-old woman grabbed his ammo clip:
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/weird/Granny_Foils_Deranged_Gunman_All_
_National_.html

V for Vendetta shooter foiled by Granny
http://bossip.com/319772/319772raw-footage-of-gunman-storming-school-b
oard-shoots-it-up-before-killing-self-talks-about-wife-being-fired-video69691/

Obamacare: The Case for Killing Granny
http://www.newsweek.com/2009/09/11/the-case-for-killing-granny.html

"Not a single issue voter, but if I was, gay rights would be it. I just want Democrats to be tough. And I wish Obama were tougher. That’s all. I’m a proud gay. I had favorite books: The Communist Manifesto."
-Jared Lee Loughner (or his sockpuppet)
www.businessinsider.com/jared-lee-loughner-2011-1

"If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun."
-Hussein Obama Soetoro
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Obama_brings_a_gun_to_a_kn
ife_fight.html

NIKI2

Monday, January 10, 2011 9:49 PM

Hey, Rue, good to see you. Haven't seen you around for a while, or so it seems. But you do know you're pissing into the wind, trying to communicate with Wulf and his ilk, don't you?

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Not calling you a liar, but I'd kind of like some evidence on that statement.

Happy, your wish is my command. I hope I noted HOMICIDE deaths, not deaths from illness, etc. So as concerns homicides, your wish is my command.

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Handgun homicides accounted for nearly all of the homicide rate, from 1985 to 1993, while homicide rates involving other weapons declined during that time frame.

Not the most recent data, but over our history, I think it's adequate to answer your question.

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You know there IS a reason we revolted, and won against you guys... right?

WHO guys? WHAT revolt? Do you consider it a "revolt" every time a house of Congress changes hands? Your fantasy worldis truly amazing, Wulf; the things you say are so unreal...

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Also, you must feel safe knowing that from the minute you step outside you have a camera on you every minute of every waking hour.. have they figured out a way to get you subjects to have cameras in your homes yet?

Are you somehow under the impression that we in America are any LESS under surveilance than any other country? I'd suggest you look around you next time you go anywhere.

ETA: While I'm against most attempts at gun-owning limitation (which would be as useless as prohibition), I WOULD be in favor of outlawing the clip this guy used. It held some 25 bullets, and he tried to change clips to keep going; if the clip had held less, maybe fewer would have died or been injured. What is the legitimate purpose of a semi-automatic which carries 25 bullets anyway??

ETAA: It's sad for me to see those who have something of value to contribute here sink to the level of those who don't. While I recogize the impulse, I'm sad to see you sounding like Mike and Sig, Rue. Which of course is ABSOLUTELY your right, just makes me sad to see you letting your button be pushed by those who have nothing to say anyway and are only HERE to push buttons.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

RUE

Monday, January 10, 2011 9:50 PM

"Brave people, one a citizen with a pistol, brought him down."

The person who acted FIRST and who ACTUALLY in REALITY stopped the shooting was an unarmed, older, democratic, woman. Try to get it straight this time, ok? I know it conflicts with your fantasy world of some dude with a (heee heee) 'big gun' being the hero of the day, but try to wrap your head around at least a little piece of actuality.

MEANWHILE, the guy with the gun was trying to figure out if he could get a good shot - considerations which cost him time - and in the end he decided he couldn't. Not only was the gun superfluous, it was an obstacle to action - no matter how much you try and spin it, little boy.

And BTW - the shooter is the exact reason for gun control, along with criminals and the underage. He's IS the epitome of the phrase 'nut with a gun.' But of course you are running screaming from something so reasonable as crazy people should not have guns, b/c this guy could just as well be - you.

WULFENSTAR

Monday, January 10, 2011 10:02 PM

Niki and Rue,

You just love assuming that people are criminals, with nefarious purpose, don't you?

Thats why you feel that people need to be "controlled".

Must control what people say, what people do...

River: "People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome."

You both need to seriously reconsider yourselves, your lives, and your beliefs.

P.S.: Something you might remember. "I start fightin' a war, I guarantee, you'll see somethin' new."

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

JONGSSTRAW

Monday, January 10, 2011 10:09 PM

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I realy have only one thing to say. Jong is absolutely right, in my opinion, that
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those that justify and even advocate murder are without human redemption.
and the things I read here are a prime example of that.

Penny for the smart lady again, as you come in as a rare rational voice here.

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Personally, I would delete Sig's remark, because "fuking right-wing assholes" is merely typical for here and happens every day, from one side or the other

You shouldn't dismiss that so quickly, as it represents the exact same type of classless hatred that leads some people to kill other people. You certainly don't resort to using that level of gutter rhetoric here. And frankly, I'm very surprised to see Signy sink so low so quickly. Guess her break from RWED didn't help too much in the mellowing category.

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That anyone can write what Kane and Gino wrote is unconscionable and an expression of a sick mentality.

The fact that you wrote that gives me great hope for a future with less hostility. You spoke against two people from completely opposite sides for their same disgusting rationalizations and acceptance of murder. And they both want more of it. Charming. Who knew such bloodlust existed so close at hand?

Of course the smartest thing you wrote was:

"I really have only one thing to say. Jong is absolutely right". That's downright poetical.

RUE

Monday, January 10, 2011 10:15 PM

Oh hi Niki -

I just cruised by to see what hornet's nest got stirred up in RWE. I've been away for quite a while, and will probably not be back for a long time. The reason being - I can't remember if someone else posted this or not but it really rings true - for as many years as I've been here, I see - with some heartening exceptions - most people posting the exact same things they posted years ago. Very few people change, very few people grow, very few people get beyond the childhood battles they lost.

Sorry about the snark, but it's pointless being reasonable with the unreasonable and sometimes it just feels good to take a small shot. Whatever I or anyone else posts seems to make no difference either way. After all if all attempts at rational argument AND all the snark over all the years have not made a dent, I can't see anything making a difference at this point.

I hope you're doing well, along with all the other posters I truly enjoy.

Keep flyin'