Arizona Rep. Giffords shot, several wounded

POSTED BY: TheHappyTrader
UPDATED: Wednesday, July 24, 2024 14:52
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Wulf

I'd call you a retard but that's an insult to the handicapped.

WHAT categories of people did I say should not have guns ? Can you remember ? Try this on for size: the mentally insane, actual tried and convicted criminals, and the underage.

How is that that I am assuming 'people are criminals' ? Can you possibly answer that ?

Never mind.

Oh, and don't go away mad - just go away.



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And Im sure, in all the hulabaloo over "OMG HE HAD A GLOCK AND IT HAD A BIG OL SCSRY MAGAZINE AND WE HAVE TO BAN GUNS AND MAGAZINES....!"

This kind of got overlooked.

Good people vs bad/crazy people...

But lets go back to the circus of how "GUNS" kill people, and not the people operating them...



"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

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Wulf

Did I say ban guns ? Did I say ban magazines ? Do you even know what I posted ? C'mon little boy, spell it out.

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That's not politics, I'm just sayin'. The vast majority of them die by guns.

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Not calling you a liar, but I'd kind of like some evidence on that statement. Sometimes these phrases like "more people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason" seem true, but actually aren't, not by a long shot. I'll admit the gun statement sounds plausible though. Violence with guns is probably more likely to result in death than violence sans guns.

I agree with Frem on this issue. A gun is a tool, just like a knife, or even big muscles and martial arts. A gun is a dangerous equalizer, and something I will probably never own, but I have a hard time believing we'd all be safer if they took them away. We'd probably just see more people getting stabbed, or harmed/killed by other means.

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A gun is NOTHING like a knife. Stick a knife in my hand and I would need the conviction to physically stand in front of that person and look into their face as I assaulted them. Put a gun in my hand and I can distance myself and shoot them from afar, without ever having to deal with them directly.
How many of us average people would be able to bring ourselves to stab somebody, compared to who would feel able to shoot. You are right, a gun is a VERY dangerous equaliser.It takes away the ability for any empathy whatsoever. If everybody in the world had a knife in their hand, I would feel much safer than all carrying a gun, thank you. There is a HUGE difference between the two.

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Originally posted by rue:
"Brave people, one a citizen with a pistol, brought him down."

The person who acted FIRST and who ACTUALLY in REALITY stopped the shooting was an unarmed, older, democratic, woman. Try to get it straight this time, ok? I know it conflicts with your fantasy world of some dude with a (heee heee) 'big gun' being the hero of the day, but try to wrap your head around at least a little piece of actuality.

MEANWHILE, the guy with the gun was trying to figure out if he could get a good shot - considerations which cost him time - and in the end he decided he couldn't. Not only was the gun superfluous, it was an obstacle to action - no matter how much you try and spin it, little boy.

And BTW - the shooter is the exact reason for gun control, along with criminals and the underage. He's IS the epitome of the phrase 'nut with a gun.' But of course you are running screaming from something so reasonable as crazy people should not have guns, b/c this guy could just as well be - you.

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The Ruse strikes again...

Wrong that lady was on fox. she said the story is wrong that the two guys tackled him then she got in.....but what would you know?

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Yes, Wulf, we know you want no control whatsoever on guns, ammo, bombs, etc. We know you live in an “all-or-nothing”, “black-and-white” world, so there’s no use trying to communicate with you. To you, any form of moderation is “control”, but you rail against any whiff of controlling yourself or others who believe as you do. We have no desire to “control” others, merely to utilize common sense. People with police records and those with well-known mental health problems should be allowed to have guns, in your world, probably because you think you’d take them out with YOUR guns. Doesn’t actually work that way, in real life.

Goodness, Jong, I’m blushing. What lovely things to say, and we disagree almost all the time, don’t we? As to Sig’s remark, I discount it because it’s just the usual rhetoric exhibited here, so if we count it, we have to count all the threats by some that others here should be killed, have been aborted, and on and on. The direct statements about this tragedy count, for me; the usual bullshit, not. I, too, am sad to see Sig sink as low as those whose posts I despise...Mike as well and I hope Rue doesn’t continue to join them. But it’s their right, just as it is the right of the most disgusting of us here to post the horrific things THEY do. I can only mourn that those three indulge in it, because I know THEY’RE capable of better.

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The fact that you wrote that gives me great hope for a future with less hostility. You spoke against two people from completely opposite sides for their same disgusting rationalizations and acceptance of murder.

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Actually, I don’t think they’re from completely different sides. Kane’s ONLY reason for being here, he freely admits, is to trigger others. Gino hates America and all things American...I don’t see those as polar opposites, myself, but rather as lack of humanity.

Rue,

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Whatever I or anyone else posts seems to make no difference either way. After all if all attempts at rational argument AND all the snark over all the years have not made a dent, I can't see anything making a difference at this point.

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Yup, in a nutshell. That’s why I pretty much ignore them and try to speak to the rational voices here. I’m not here as much anymore either, for the same reasons, but I still come to see if there’s anything interesting put up which is worth scrolling past PN’s insanely long diatribes and visuals, AND the same idiots saying the same things, to get to. My problem right now is I get caught up in replies; I need to conquer THAT, as well as coming here every day. Working on it.

Well, I’ll take one minute to respond to Wulf, not that it matters. Rue said it, the only people who shouldn’t be allowed guns are “the mentally insane, actual tried and convicted criminals, and the underage”. That’s not controlling people, that’s common sense. Nobody whatsoever said all the stupid things you put in capitals, but I realize that has nothing to do with anything you claim. Not surprising, just disgusting, as usual. Me, I’d like a simple question answered; why do people need semi-automatic weapons with 25-bullet magazines? I’m sure you have your own answer, but I don’t want to hear it, I know what it would be. I ask of the rational among us; what is the purpose of same?

And no, Rue, he doesn’t know what you posted. Bear in mind that Wulf “reads” what he expects to see, not what people actually write, then he takes it to the most extreme he can and throws it back at them, that’s all.

I'm sorry you're going away again; we need every rational voice we can have, to keep the sane among us coming at all; to leave it to the irrational hatemongers among us would be a sad, sad thing.

ETA: PK, I agree. I accept we have guns everywhere, it is the way it is. And I have no desire to ban them; it's just not possible and would be a stupid thing to attempt. But some of the more extreme things do bother me, and I wish there was some form of moderation possible. The NRA will never allow ANY moderati

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