Arizona Rep. Giffords shot, several wounded

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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:

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Originally posted by canttakesky:

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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
Too bad Loughner wasn't a better shot....

Well maybe I'll lurk again in a few months, or if more good news occurs...

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I am so sorry for asking. I don't know you well enough to know if you are being sarcastic, or if you are serious. I'm just wondering. Thanks.

If someone were to advocate this position seriously, it would imply the "good" thing to do is to kill every legislator who voted the same votes to keep the wars going. I can't imagine anyone advocating that seriously.

Can't Take (my gorram) Sky
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Everything I say is just my opinion, not fact.

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Completely Serious


In a just world people are legally and morally held to account for their decisions and how those decisions effect others.

In a perfect world, the collective leadership of the US would find itself under investigation / prosecution before the International Criminal Court.

Hmm Not going to happen.

Many on this board have said in the past that voting isn't going to solve anything. The fix is in, it doesn't matter who gets elected you have the same thing. Obama is proof of that, so no possibility for change that way either.


If the only way to hold your " legislators " accountable is to treat them in exactly the same fashion your government treats those opposing it around the world... then good luck to those doing the shooting. They vote money to criminal actions, then they are deserving of what they receive, until such time we have a different way to resolve these issues.



But anyway, back to the occasional Lurk

No man is above the law and no man is below it: nor do we ask any man's permission when we ask him to obey it.

Theodore Roosevelt

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yeah, because violent revolution, violent revolt works out so well for a society, doesn't it?

All I can say is that before people call for violent retribution, they'd better be damned sure that turning to lawlessness and violence is really going to be worth it for the general population, because armed revolt is ugly, lots of people die, and the end result is a bit of a lottery really. If you let those who wield the gun take charge, anything can happen, not always with good results.

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As to the shooting itself, it kind of appalls me a mite that no one shot back, as Arizona isn't as hostile to CCW as most states, but then again this was a crowded shopping mall parking lot and it's quite likely anyone who was packing didn't have a clean shot or was more focused on getting people into cover and safe, which I can completely understand - some folk *did* tackle his ass and disarm him, mind you, an act of personal heroism which has been completely overlooked by everyone else within this discussion, and I find that a mite offensive.

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Kind of makes a mockery of your gun laws, Frem, that unarmed people were able to restrain him without the assistance of the so called armed population, who so rarely fight back when needed.

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MAGONSDAUGHTER,

people are dying everyday... and have been going back to where to US started on this course some 60 years ago...


Rappy just holds to the belief those lives have no value because they are not Americans.

" Congresswoman, wife to astronaut, mother of 2 "

who happened to enable, aid and abet before and after the fact, and cheer on the murder / maiming / torture of hundreds of thousands.


All kinds of war criminal have familys



doesn't make them less guilty.





No man is above the law and no man is below it: nor do we ask any man's permission when we ask him to obey it.

Theodore Roosevelt

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Obama Administration Plan to Create Internet ID for All Americans
National Strategy for Trusted Identities in Cyberspace
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/08/report-obama-administration
-plans-create-internet-id-americans/

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

this was a crowded shopping mall parking lot and it's quite likely anyone who was packing didn't have a clean shot or was more focused on getting people into cover and safe, which I can completely understand - some folk *did* tackle his ass and disarm him, mind you, an act of personal heroism

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It was armed citizens who ran up and tackled him, making citizens arrests, which of course the useless dirtbag cops took credit for, and the media mafiya failed to credit them with. There was no need to shoot, since as shooters they knew he could not shoot while reloading. The non gun owners were paralyzed with fear.


Alleged Shooter in Gabrielle Giffords Attack Described by Classmate as "Liberal Pothead" with jewfro
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2011/01/jared_loughner_al
leged_shooter.php

Second Man Sought In Giffords Shooting May Be Assassin’s Handler
HOW MANY TAXI DRIVERS WALK YOU TO YOUR DESTINATION???!!!
http://www.infowars.com/second-man-sought-in-giffords-shooting-may-be-
assassins-handler/

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Incestuous gay jew S&M pedophiles with bad hair at SPLC blame Ayn Rand, David Icke and Reptilian V's for Arizona Shooting

Because Loughner allegedly posted statements about gold and silver-backed currency on his MySpace and other postings, Mark Potok further connects Loughner to right wingers on this point; however, it is the Constitution, in Article I Section 10, which demands that “No State shall… make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts.”

http://www.infowars.com/splc-blames-ayn-rand-david-icke-and-others-for
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Kosher SPLC lawyer Morris "Dees" Seligman is a "homicidal adulterous pedophile who committed incest" according to his wife in divorce court
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/even_with_morris_dees.html
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/MorrisDeesDivorcePapers.pdf

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"I had favorite books: The Communist Manifesto."
-Jared Lee Loughner (or his sockpuppet)
www.businessinsider.com/jared-lee-loughner-2011-1

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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
MAGONSDAUGHTER,

people are dying everyday... and have been going back to where to US started on this course some 60 years ago...


Rappy just holds to the belief those lives have no value because they are not Americans.

" Congresswoman, wife to astronaut, mother of 2 "

who happened to enable, aid and abet before and after the fact, and cheer on the murder / maiming / torture of hundreds of thousands.


All kinds of war criminal have familys



doesn't make them less guilty.





No man is above the law and no man is below it: nor do we ask any man's permission when we ask him to obey it.

Theodore Roosevelt

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Doesn't mean that armed revolt will make things better. Evidence is that it just replaces the old bastards with the new ones, and society is destabilised and corrupted, often to a degree that it is hard to recover from.

Not saying that it is never necessary, but that you'd better be damned sure if you are calling for this kind of action that you can live with the consequences.

How many died in the Russian revolution, where they had pretty good reason to revolt. 9 million, 15? For what, to eventually replace one hideous autocrat with another, possible worse one.

How many died in Cambodia? 20% of the population? For what, a regime of violent children who murdered anyone who was middle class, educated, so there were no doctors, no scientists, no teachers left?

Rwanda? A million people murdered in a few days. That worked out well, didn't it.

Talk of taking up arms is all very romantic, but the reality is not at all so.

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Originally posted by SignyM:

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I wonder what you all will have to sayNobody is saying that Loughner belonged to the tea party. But he certainly was influenced by crazy-talking RWERz like Glenn Beck, and O'Reilly, Hannity, and Limbaugh, and the rest of the untethered, spittle-spraying, violence-inciting crowd.

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The only violence they incite is in those who want to shut them up.

I note for the record that there is no evidence that he was influenced by Beck, O'Reilly, or anybody. There is no evidence he even knew or heard of Palin's desire to defeat certain Dems in the last election. All we know is what he said in his postings and notes which says he was influenced by his crazyness more then the political rhetoric. From his profile he was far more likely to be a listener of Jon Stewart then O'Reilly or Beck.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
"I would rather not ignore your contributions." Niki2, 2010.

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