Arizona Rep. Giffords shot, several wounded
POSTED BY: TheHappyTrader
UPDATED: Wednesday, July 24, 2024 14:52
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Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.
Or was that some OTHER Rappy who posted that "cartoonish claim"?
Well, he is. Was I wrong ? Nope.
So the President can't be "wrong", in your opinion, or someone with whom you disagree. He has to be "a god damn, mother fucking liar".
And you claim it's the left that does that, makes that claim. And you claim that in the very thread where you called Signy a "liar" (quoting your exact word there, sporto).
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And where'd I ever cheer for this AZ shooter nut case ? Oh, that's right, I NEVER DID.
No, you keep holding him up as an example. "The War has begun." "Choose or perish." "Choose AND perish." "Don't start something you don't want started."
Your meaning and implications are quite clear, as you say. (Hey, you love imparting meaning and intent to the words of others, so goose sauce = gander sauce, right?)
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Such things only occur in your mind, Kwickie.
And yours, it seems. Everything you accuse "the Left" of doing, you've done yourself, even in this one thread.
Now all you have to do to complete the hat trick is yell "Socialist" and "fuck you" and run away. That will pretty much complete your repertoire...
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Happy, I think you missed the part where KKKaney, avowed right-winger and hero to many of the righties around here, said that all the liberals should absolutely be shot. Let's hope I'm not unfairly quoting the right on that one...
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[about Kwicko's post]
...which I was happy to read, cause it's sometimes difficult to figure out exactly where he stands and what he's saying. This statement efficiently sums that up and I can't really disagree with it.
I appreciate that. Not sure why it's so hard to nail down what I believe or where I stand. I generally stand to the left of center, and I generally like to ask "...and THEN what?" I've long advocated having a Cabinet position for the "Department of And Then What?"
People like to live in black and white; they don't like to face the greys of reality. I'm the guy in the grey suit, battling the absolute. :)
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THT -
You actually said what I wanted, when I butchered the line from Ghostbusters.
" Choose AND Perish "
Choose OR Perish was what I posted, and I guess I was confusing that w/ the words Join or Die , under the Revolutionary flag....
The posted remark, which is far more inflammatory than my intended meaning, was suppose to add a bit of tongue in cheek humor to a dire situation... 
My attempt failed miserably, which I will freely admit.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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Also, somebody tried to make the case that this might be a liberal attack, since Giffords is "in favor of tightening border security", as if immigration is something only hard-core right-wingers care about.
I'm not sure I know any liberals who want more open borders. Where we differ isn't on illegal immigration; it's on what to do about it, where to start, and what measures to take. Tightening the borders? Great. How? A wall? Okay, if I'm an enterprising Mexican, I'm building a ladder factory. Make a 20-foot wall, and I'll sell 21-foot ladders. You spent money; I made money.
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HAPPY, I'm all about discussing and I have bird-dogged down some of the most disingenuous counterpoints know to this board. But I draw the line when peeps threaten. I have sat on a friend's porch with a gun in my lap, waiting for a stalker to show up. Been in more than one dangerous and possibly life-threatening situation. Now, maybe its just me, but bringing that kind of shit to the board is inexcusable and near-unforgivable. I'm doing Rappy the significant courtesy of backing away and allowing him to do the same. Not good enuf for you?
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Happy, that was a very nice summary.
However, I have to just tell you as an RWED old timer, it's a waste of time trying to get two warring sides to look at the escalation rationally once they have put on their war paint and done their war dance.
My rule as an RWED survivor: ignore the hostile posts. Lots of good stuff on this board. Just navigate past the shipwrecks and driftwood.
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What if...
KWICKO and SIGNYM are one and the same?
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Happy is pretty new here, I don't think he recognizes these kinds of flamewars are common place and don't affect day-to-day functioning of the board much. Took me a while to learn this too.
I don't think he meant anything by it Sig. Didn't mean to defend any sorts of threats, and didn't mean to offend.
Glad to hear everyone is going to step back a little.
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Happy, I think you missed the part where KKKaney, avowed right-winger and hero to many of the righties around here, said that all the liberals should absolutely be shot. Let's hope I'm not unfairly quoting the right on that one...
Not at all, sometimes I miss things kane and whozit post cause I skim over 'em figuring there isn't much substance.
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HAPPY, I'm all about discussing and I have bird-dogged down some of the most disingenuous counterpoints know to this board. But I draw the line when peeps threaten. I have sat on a friend's porch with a gun in my lap, waiting for a stalker to show up. Been in more than one dangerous and possibly life-threatening situation. Now, maybe its just me, but bringing that kind of shit to the board is inexcusable and near-unforgivable. I'm doing Rappy the significant courtesy of backing away and allowing him to do the same. Not good enuf for you?
Unfortunately, you tend to hit the entire right with proxy fire. 'fucking right wing assholes' and implying the right as a whole is responsible for the attack and are pro-violence. I suppose a good analogy would be this war most all of us hate. You attack the enemy Taliban or rappy and you also hit civilians or right leaning folk not rappy in the process. It may be acceptable to you or just unfortunate collateral damage, but anyone hit with the flak won't think highly of you. I'm not going to claim to know your motivations, I'm just letting you know how it looks from my perspective. That doesn't necessarily mean I'm correct either, but if you can prove me wrong without viciously jabbing at my unrelated and perceived character flaws I would appreciate it
also, I suppose I should thank kwicko for pointing out how I looked concerning the Muslim thing (even though it pissed the hell out of me at the time). I think it was exaggerated, but he wasn't the only person who thought that way. I don't think Muslims as a whole are any more dangerous than any other group of people, their extremists just happen to be trending right now. I suppose I should be more careful in my post so as not to create a false impression.
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
No, you keep holding him up as an example. "The War has begun." "Choose or perish." "Choose AND perish." "Don't start something you don't want started."
Your meaning and implications are quite clear, as you say. (Hey, you love imparting meaning and intent to the words of others, so goose sauce = gander sauce, right?)
Not even remotely. Nothing I state holds this guy up, in any remote fashion. The " don't start something " remark had nothing to do w/ the AZ shooter, but was directed squarely at those who bring up Sarah's " hit list " in conjunction to this story, and trying to paint him as some sort of agent for the Right.
One has nothing to do w/ the other. And yet, in typical Leftist fashion, you blur the lines of fact and fantasy, because your position can't ever stand up on its own merits.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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