Arizona Rep. Giffords shot, several wounded
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Larry Correia may have made the best statement about the incident and the MSM's reaction to it.
http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2011/01/09/understanding-media-or-wh
y-are-you-right-wingers-so-filled-with-hate/
The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.
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Originally posted by Hardware:
Larry Correia may have made the best statement about the incident and the MSM's reaction to it.
http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2011/01/09/understanding-media-or-wh
y-are-you-right-wingers-so-filled-with-hate/
The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.
This crystallizes the dichotomy and hypocracy of the Left, brilliantly.
Remember:
Tea Party movement is about how regular Americans are sick of paying too much in taxes and the government is too big and ineffectual = SETTING A DANGEROUS AND VIOLENT TONE
Making a movie about the assassination of George Bush = ART
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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coming out of lurk mode for a moment...
who cares what the motives of the shooter were...
does his affiliations really matter ?
a quick look at Gabrielle Giffords career,
she twice voted for more money to the Iraq war
she is in thick with the AIPAC crowd, and is quoted as " Committed to unbreakable U.S.-Israel bond.
she is a member of the Armed Services, and Foreign Affairs committees.
supports US policy is Afghanistan and Pakistan
Hell, she has plenty of blood on her hands, and appears deserving of the result.
Too bad Loughner wasn't a better shot.
I'd feel bad about the nine year old, but then again I wonder how many nine year old have been wasted by US drone strikes. Guess the bystanders shouldn't have been standing so close to the criminal.
Hopefully this event inspires some folk... maybe they will get Cheney next.
Well maybe I'll lurk again in a few months, or if more good news occurs...
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
The war has begun.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Fucking right-wing assholes.
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Originally posted by Kaneman:
I'm no right-winger, but i do feel all libtards should be shot. And I hope this liberal pig-whore dies.
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Originally posted by Ginobiffaroni:
Hell, she has plenty of blood on her hands, and appears deserving of the result.
Too bad Loughner wasn't a better shot.
You're all nuts. And those that justify and even advocate murder are without human redemption.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
This crystallizes the dichotomy and hypocracy of the Left, brilliantly.
Remember:
Tea Party movement is about how regular Americans are sick of paying too much in taxes and the government is too big and ineffectual = SETTING A DANGEROUS AND VIOLENT TONE.
Why does a big, ineffectual government set a violent and dangerous tone. I don't see the link. Surely, if the government is big and ineffective, its big and ineffective. It's people who find that an affront akin to having Pol Pot as a leader that set the violent and dangerous tone by calling for armed revolution and resistance simply because they find themselves on the other side of political fence from that which was making policy.
I've posted with Americans on several different boards now for the past 7 or so years. The hard line rhetoric has come almost exclusively from the right, the far right as I see it, at least where I have posted. The kind of views that initially supported wars of venegence on Iraq and Afghanistan for 9/11, who supported torture, indefinite incarceration, suspension of habeus corpus, who divided the world into us and them, you are with us or against us.
Those same people have called for violence, even on these boards, not because of any of the above....no, all those outrages are fine, what really gets them steamed up is a policy which would provide basic healthcare for the population. Oh yes, that's the kind of moral outrage that would make them march to washington.
The left, the left feel like the moderates to me, the ones who are trying to keep a sane voice in amongst a roar of insane ones.
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Angry rhetoric brings US to the brink
Matt Bai
January 10, 2011
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WITHIN minutes of the first reports that Arizona Democrat Gabrielle Giffords and a score of people with her had been shot in Tucson, pages began disappearing from the web.
One was Sarah Palin's infamous ''cross-hairs'' map from last year, which showed a series of contested congressional districts, including Giffords's, with gun targets trained on them. Another was from Daily Kos, the liberal blog, where one of the congresswoman's apparently liberal constituents declared her ''dead to me'' after Giffords voted against Nancy Pelosi in House leadership elections.
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Odds are pretty good that neither of these - nor any other isolated bit of imagery - had much to do with the shooting in Tucson. But scrubbing them from the internet couldn't erase all evidence of the rhetorical recklessness that permeates our political moment. The question is whether Saturday's shooting marks the logical end point of such a moment - or the beginning of a terrifying new one.
Modern America has endured such moments before. The intense ideological clashes of the 1960s, centred on communism and civil rights and Vietnam, were marked by a series of assassinations that changed the course of American history, carried out against a backdrop of urban riots and self-immolating war protesters.
During the culture wars of the 1990s, fought over issues such as gun rights and abortion, right-wing extremists killed 168 people in Oklahoma City, terrorised hundreds in an Atlanta park and at abortion clinics in the South.
What's different about this moment is the emergence of a political culture - on blogs and Twitter and cable TV - that so loudly reinforces the dark visions of political extremists, often for profit or political gain.
It wasn't clear whether the alleged shooter in Tucson was motivated by any political philosophy, or by voices in his head, or perhaps by both. But it's hard not to think he was at least partly influenced by a debate that seems to conflate philosophical disagreement with a political Armageddon.
The problem here doesn't lie with activists like most of those who populate the Tea parties, ordinary citizens in conversation about the country's direction. Rather, the problem seems to rest with political leaders who pander to the margins of the margins, employing whatever words seem likely to win contributions or TV time, with little regard for the consequences.
Consider the comments of Sharron Angle, the Tea Party favourite who ran for the Senate in Nevada last year. She talked about ''domestic enemies'' in the Congress and said, ''I hope we're not getting to second amendment remedies'' (a reference to the constitutional right to bear arms).
Then there's Rick Barber, a Republican loser in an Alabama congressional race, but not before airing an ad in which someone dressed as George Washington listens to an attack on the Obama agenda and proclaims, ''Gather your armies''.
In fact, much of the message among Republicans last year, as they sought to exploit the Tea Party phenomenon, centred on this imagery of armed revolution. It's not that such leaders are trying to incite violence or hysteria; in fact, they're not. It's more that they are so caught up in a culture of hyperbole, so amused with their own verbal flourishes, that - like the bloggers and TV hosts to whom they cater - they seem to lose their hold on the power of words.
Contrast that with one of John McCain's finer moments as a candidate in 2008, when a woman at a Minnesota meeting asserted that Barack Obama was a closeted Arab. ''No, ma'am, he's not,'' Senator McCain quickly replied, taking back the microphone. ''He's a decent family man, citizen, that I just happen to have disagreements with.''
The pressing question is where this all ends - whether we re-evaluate the piercing pitch of our political debate or whether we are hurtling unstoppably into a frightening period more like the late 1960s.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
This crystallizes the dichotomy and hypocracy of the Left, brilliantly.
Remember:
Tea Party movement is about how regular Americans are sick of paying too much in taxes and the government is too big and ineffectual = SETTING A DANGEROUS AND VIOLENT TONE.
Why does a big, ineffectual government set a violent and dangerous tone. I don't see the link. Surely, if the government is big and ineffective, its big and ineffective. It's people who find that an affront akin to having Pol Pot as a leader that set the violent and dangerous tone by calling for armed revolution and resistance simply because they find themselves on the other side of political fence from that which was making policy.
I've posted with Americans on several different boards now for the past 7 or so years. The hard line rhetoric has come almost exclusively from the right, the far right as I see it, at least where I have posted. The kind of views that initially supported wars of venegence on Iraq and Afghanistan for 9/11, who supported torture, indefinite incarceration, suspension of habeus corpus, who divided the world into us and them, you are with us or against us.
Those same people have called for violence, even on these boards, not because of any of the above....no, all those outrages are fine, what really gets them steamed up is a policy which would provide basic healthcare for the population. Oh yes, that's the kind of moral outrage that would make them march to washington.
The left, the left feel like the moderates to me, the ones who are trying to keep a sane voice in amongst a roar of insane ones.
Go read the link dumbass. What policy is giving Americans basic healthcare to the population. You have to buy it dumbass.
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Too bad Loughner wasn't a better shot.
That's one of the more hateful, tasteless non PN remarks I think I've ever seen on FFF.NEt
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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True. It's up there with
The war has begun.
Choose or perish.
in terms of a response to a fatal shooting.
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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
*Why does a big, ineffectual government set a violent and dangerous tone. I don't see the link. Surely, if the government is big and ineffective, its big and ineffective. It's people who find that an affront akin to having Pol Pot as a leader that set the violent and dangerous tone by calling for armed revolution and resistance simply because they find themselves on the other side of political fence from that which was making policy.
I've posted with Americans on several different boards now for the past 7 or so years. The hard line rhetoric has come almost exclusively from the right, the far right as I see it, at least where I have posted. The kind of views that initially supported wars of venegence on Iraq and Afghanistan for 9/11, who supported torture, indefinite incarceration, suspension of habeus corpus, who divided the world into us and them, you are with us or against us.
Those same people have called for violence, even on these boards, not because of any of the above....no, all those outrages are fine, what really gets them steamed up is a policy which would provide basic healthcare for the population. Oh yes, that's the kind of moral outrage that would make them march to washington.
The left, the left feel like the moderates to me, the ones who are trying to keep a sane voice in amongst a roar of insane ones.
You didn't read the full link, or even the part I posted, did you ?
It's a contrast in how the MSM treats the Left and the Right
On the one hand, you have....
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Remember:
Tea Party movement is about how regular Americans are sick of paying too much in taxes and the government is too big and ineffectual = SETTING A DANGEROUS AND VIOLENT TONE
but on the other hand, you have...
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Making a movie about the assassination of George Bush = ART
The Left can tolerate the murdering of a President, provided it's Bush, and call it " art " . But people standing up for their constitutional rights ? Why, that's HATE speech! Dangerous and violent tones !
* Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have ... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases.
- quote attributed to Thomas Jefferson.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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