Anatomy of a bad SF movie: Precisely what made it fail?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 01:40
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Okay. This was sort of glossed over but someone mentioned "Avatar" and I'm curious as to: how are you all interpreting "what made it fail"?
Does it have to be a box office failure? If not, and obviously "Transformers" was not and "Avatar" was not, how are we defining "failure"?
If it's just one person's opinion, then let me ask: Does anyone here think "Serenity" failed? If so, I'd love to see the analysis of that (and I *have* encountered people who loved "Firefly" and hated "Serenity").
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Case #10:
Serenity
Apparent Causes of Suckitude-
A) Who ARE these people? The flick starts out like we should know...
B) There was a weird 'western' vibe running through it- but isn't this a SF movie?
C) The bad guy, a vicious KILLER, turns good at the end? That's sooo 'Vader'.
Analysis:
A- It's the new thing in movies; start in the middle of a story (you never saw Pulp Fiction?).
See the series it's a continuation of, you idiot!
B- And "Alien" had a horror vibe running through it; Be flexible, and you will be Renewed!
C- This movie contained not only blacks & whites, but shades of gray, redemption, character evolution... touch of reality. Makes some nervous, I conjure.
So, it failed at the box office, but I submit it succeeded as a refreshing change of pace from the glut of same 'ole nonsense out there (the second Transformers movie just came out on DVD for you Hero/Villain comfort-addicts 
).
Next case...?
The laughing Chrisisall
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Well, I myself can't stand Roland Emmerich's work (with a couple of exceptions, like Stargate), and I could only make it a third of the way through 2012.
At least Michael Bay's films have some good cinematography and dialogue.
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Quote:When I started the analysis of Waterworld, I found I did not want to write a whole BOOK on why it failed- I don't care enough about the flick. Sorry.
Originally posted by GWEK:
Seriously? You're not even trying anymore!
The laughing Chrisisall
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Quote:I kinda liked The Day After Tomorrow.
Originally posted by cljohnston108:
Well, I myself can't stand Roland Emmerich's work
The laughing Chrisisall
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This always bothered me about the "great Star Wars trilogy".....
The last Jedis, Obi Wan and Yoda split up the twins of Darth Vader (Annakin Skywalker) so that neither Darth or the Emperor would ever know of their existence. Then they drop Luke off with Annakin's stepbrother Owen Lars, on Annakin's home planet of Tatooine, and he gets raised as Luke SKYWALKER. Might have been a wise idea to change his name, right? Before the modern-day "rebellion" what was Darth Vader doing anyhow? One trip to Tatooine would have revealed the truth about his son, but apparently he never went.
Also, in the first Star Wars, Leia is captured and brought on board Vader's ship. He physically touches her and holds her as her planet is being destroyed, but feels nothing from her? Cannot feel that she's his daughter? Sorry, that just don't fly.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:I kinda liked The Day After Tomorrow.
Originally posted by cljohnston108:
Well, I myself can't stand Roland Emmerich's work
The laughing Chrisisall
You a fan of Art Bell?
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Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:I kinda liked The Day After Tomorrow.
Originally posted by cljohnston108:
Well, I myself can't stand Roland Emmerich's work
The laughing Chrisisall
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Quote:He was RIGHT OVER IT in the first movie!
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Before the modern-day "rebellion" what was Darth Vader doing anyhow? One trip to Tatooine would have revealed the truth about his son, but apparently he never went.
Quote:The Dark Side typically 'blurs' The Force's more esoteric aspects. Without intentional concentration & focus, many things more openly felt by peeps on the 'good' side can whiz right by those with a focus on evil.
Also, in the first Star Wars, Leia is captured and brought on board Vader's ship. He physically touches her and holds her as her planet is being destroyed, but feels nothing from her? Cannot feel that she's his daughter? Sorry, that just don't fly.
Geeze, I thought EVERYONE knew that!
The laughing Chrisisall
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Quote:What can I say? I likes me my cheese w/extra cheese on occasion. Never said it was a good movie, remember...
Originally posted by Storymark:Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:I kinda liked The Day After Tomorrow.
Originally posted by cljohnston108:
Well, I myself can't stand Roland Emmerich's work
The laughing Chrisisall
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