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Federal gay marriage ban is ruled unconstitutional

POSTED BY: Geezer
UPDATED: Monday, July 19, 2010 21:02
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Saturday, July 10, 2010 11:50 PM

Hello,

"Do you think that a non-American citizen should have no special right to become an American citizen if they marry one, so that married couple must live apart if the State decides it?"

I don't think marriage and citizenship should have anything whatsoever to do with one another, if that's what you are asking.

Of course, that doesn't suppose that I endorse the fullness of current citizenship policy, either.

"Down with contracts then. But how is one, in that case, to ensure a company keeps it's commitment to you after it got your money?"

Thank you, Citizen, for making me clarify. Romantic commitments, is what I meant. I'm sorry if that was not obvious.

--Anthony


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Saturday, July 10, 2010 11:52 PM

"If two homosexuals can get "Married" then we might as well throw out the whole concept of government endorsed Marriage because it becomes meaningless. If any two males or females can get "Married", wouldn't it be discrimination to prevent heterosexuals from entering into "Marriage" just to get insurance and tax benefits. Just because a pair of married male heteros chooses to not have sex together, but instead continue to bang hot chicks on the side are they some how less worthy than a Homo couple."

Hello,

Absolutely. The idea of the government rewarding particular family dynamics and living arrangements is nonsense, in my opinion.

--Anthony



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Saturday, July 10, 2010 11:57 PM

If gay marriage is legalized, I'm going to ask for the hands of hella many dudes in marriage, starting with Kirkules. I already have a plastic crackerjack ring.

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Sunday, July 11, 2010 12:09 AM

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Originally posted by mincingbeast:
If gay marriage is legalized, I'm going to ask for the hands of hella many dudes in marriage, starting with Kirkules. I already have a plastic crackerjack ring.


If you have good health care coverage I'll divorce my wife tomorrow.

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Sunday, July 11, 2010 12:53 AM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
I don't think marriage and citizenship should have anything whatsoever to do with one another, if that's what you are asking.


So do you believe that a married couple should be kept apart for reasons of citizenship?
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Originally posted by AnthonyT:

"Down with contracts then. But how is one, in that case, to ensure a company keeps it's commitment to you after it got your money?"

Thank you, Citizen, for making me clarify. Romantic commitments, is what I meant. I'm sorry if that was not obvious.


Well, I get more than a little sarcasm from that, regardless what makes "romantic commitments" between two people different in essence from any other type of commitment between two people?

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Sunday, July 11, 2010 12:57 AM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Absolutely. The idea of the government rewarding particular family dynamics and living arrangements is nonsense, in my opinion.


Well I agree with that too. It's silly how improved my financial position would be by simply saying "I Do", as a single male with a job I'm eligible for fuck all, get married and things start looking much easier, financially. Seems fairly fucking insane to me, though I find that with many conservative policies...

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Sunday, July 11, 2010 9:41 AM

Hello,

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"So do you believe that a married couple should be kept apart for reasons of citizenship? "



No. What an awful thought.


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"regardless what makes "romantic commitments" between two people different in essence from any other type of commitment between two people?"



Because financial commitments are about money or property, and romantic commitments are about people and feelings and desires. The ways that people choose to enjoy each other's company should not be regulated or enforceable by any law under the sun. Do you really want the government to tell you who you can make a romantic commitment to, or when and how you can choose to end that commitment?

And yet we let the government tell us these things. This, so we can get a special set of privileges set aside for people who form relationships according to government preference. Or, put another way, to avoid punitive measures taken against people who fail to form these government-approved relationships.

--Anthony








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Sunday, July 11, 2010 2:18 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Yes; it will no doubt be a total mess and raise hell, but it would be nice if it worked.

I'm amazed that the right is always screaming about too much government intervention, but they have no problem when it keeps gays from marrying or a woman getting an abortion.

Hypocrisy, thy name is RWA.


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As much as I would like to argue with this statement...I can't. It is true. However, as wulf pointed out in the next post...the door swings both ways with Rep and Libs...That's why I think Libertarians are a bit more consistent than others.

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Sunday, July 11, 2010 5:42 PM

Well there we are then RivKane...one for one. I agreed with you on something recently; you agree with me on this. The world is a strange place...


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Tuesday, July 13, 2010 5:30 AM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
I think the entire debate over civil unions vs. marriage and who can have it is rooted, unfortunately, in a lingering lack of separation between church and state.


Yup.
I look forward to the day that no religion has control over whether I'm allowed to ask my girlfriend to marry me.
I might be looking forward to it for a long time, but I prefer to be optimistic. We already got rings and everything.

HRWATPWRTCITG

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