Federal gay marriage ban is ruled unconstitutional
POSTED BY: Geezer
UPDATED: Monday, July 19, 2010 21:02
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i believe two consenting adults have the right to enter into any mutual contract, as long as they are willing- whether it be prostitution, a 'drug' deal, or whatever. they just cannot impose that contract on me in any way(as they do through indoctrination in the government schools). it should be as it was before the government began issuing marriage licenses, when marriage was mostly a spiritual, religious, or practical function of society. a marriage is a contract between you and your spouse(and God). so this issue over gay 'marriage' is only controversial for the simple fact that the government is involved in marriage, when it shouldnt be- and just as it is in every other aspect of our lives!
so once again, get the government out of peoples homes, habits, and lives, and these issues would not be a problem. if you truly want to live in a free society, you have to let people express their liberties, and risk and accept the consequences. you cannot protect people from themselves, nor should you
you just cannot infringe on another persons life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property.
so in my opinion,(in response to Niki) that goes for the lives of the unborn, whos lives, their lifeforces, or 'being', are seperate from the circumstances of the pregnancy; just as peoples actions are not seperate from the consequences. a neccessary part of human growth, wisdom and maturity is responsibility. why is this even a debate? the taking of innocent life should never be rationalized, under any circumstances. it shouldnt be a question of debate when a person is entitled to life, actual legal representation- it should be inherent, inalienable. if certain lives are expendable, for whatever justified greater good, consider what an evil precedent has been created
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It is the law of the land, The Constitution, not the elected officials, that garauntees the people its freedoms.
I don't recall seeing any language in the Constitution stating "all citizens of the USA have a right to marry, except whenever the moral minority or the ruling religious authority deems it unfit and improper."
Where are the folks who cried about Obama taking away the 2nd amendment rights? (which is not possible), why aren't their voices heard loud and clear regarding this issue?
Imagine, for a moment, that the government decides to eliminate the 1st Amendment (which includes Freedom of Religion); there would be such a ruckus raised, and rightfully so, calling for heads to roll.
"Freedom of religion is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or community, in public or private, to manifest religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship, and observance; the concept is generally recognized also to include the freedom to change religion or not to follow any religion."
Those who enjoy the freedom, provided by the Constitution, to worship without imposition by the Federal Government, should not try to deny 2 consenting adults from marrying - because it is a basic freedom. Just think if that ever goes into effect, what's to stop the non-religious peoples of this country from petitioning for a change in the 1st Amendment.
If one goes, what's next?
SGG
Tawabawho?
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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,
"You keep stating that business rules are perfect for marriage, but you've not yet even begun to try and explain, let alone support that position. "
Is there some function to marriage laws other than deciding the disposition of resources and assets?
"You're also claiming (albeit tacitly) that Marriage laws must reward marriage"
I'm claiming that's what they do. And I'm right. They do that.
"I also reject that the government has no place whatsoever in regulating romantic commitments, especially since you have already admitted it does have a role to play there"
You have oddly shoehorned rape into 'romantic commitments' in order to make this point. I can't say I agree with that particular lumping.
"I suppose you can't have legally recognised business relationships, without forcing people to start businesses, and punishing those that don't, right?"
An interesting point of view. Although, since any individual or group of individuals of any size or composition can start a business or reach an agreement about property and assets, one might say it's much more dynamic, inclusive, and non discriminatory.
"What I'm contending is false is your idea that a legal marriage framework isn't necessary, and that things designed for completely different purposes can be applied to marriage's unique circumstances."
What circumstances are unique about marriage, again? I missed it.
--Anthony
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That's a very long winded way of saying you can't back up word one of your claims, but it's saying that nonetheless.
Thanks.
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Hello Citizen,
You're right, and I'm wrong.
--Anthony
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The Constitution recognizes, as man-made LAW, the NATURAL rights of citizens which... can not be given or taken away.
Do you REALLY think that the natural law of defense, procreation, property and the rest are inherrant on pieces of paper? Really?
No.
They are written down and recognized, but NOT dependant on so-called "laws".
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