Imponderables: Oh Baby...
POSTED BY: nvghostrider
UPDATED: Tuesday, July 6, 2010 17:46
VIEWED: 17801
PAGE 2 of 12
Zeek- Well, can't all liquid things go in a mug?
About babies, I have a couple baby cousins, but I don't see that half of the family very often (well, I don't see any family other than the rents very often but that's not the point), so... yeah, I can't really relate with the baby craziness either
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
It's kind of like being surrounded by a sweet smelling ,laughing tornado that you totally can't take your eyes off ( not because it's captivating so much as because if you do something bad will happen)
HUGS Zeek- pretty sure you can put coke in a mug:)
To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.
NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:
Originally posted by MsA:
HUGS Zeek- pretty sure you can put coke in a mug:)
But it already comes in a nice container all its own. If you pour it into something else then you have to wash that something else. What a pain!
NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
LOL Zeek.. ok you have a point. cafe press also had an awesome Swarley shirt and one that has Barney on the front and Larney on the back.... To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.
NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
So, here's a ponder. When does something become your own fault and when should the blame be passed around?
I saw this article on yahoo news this morning: http://finance.yahoo.com/college-education/article/109701/placing-the-
blame-as-students-are-buried-in-debt?mod=edu-collegeprep
It just seems silly to me that the whole point of the article is finding someone to place blame on. Why isn't the girl taking any of the blame? Sure she was young when she made the decisions but I wasn't a blithering imbecile when I was entering college. I'm pretty sure I could at least do some simple math of looking up starting salaries for my major and then figuring out how much debt I'd be in due to tuition.
I'm ok with them pointing out that her mom could have helped her more in making the decisions. I can see how a kid will take their parents word on a lot of these types of decisions.
Blaming the school and the bank? Why would either of them step in to tell someone not to give them business? "I don't think you can afford $200,000 in tuition over 4 years. Maybe you should give your money to one of our competitors." Not happening. They also point out that student loans are very difficult to default on. So, to the bank it's a pretty solid investment. I don't see them as doing anything wrong. They're just looking out for their own interests. They didn't force her into anything.
I just don't see the point of looking for someone else to blame in that situation. Does it do any good? Not really. It's still the girl's problem. She needs to figure out a plan to solve it. She also needs to move out of an expensive city and start lowering her monthly expenses if she ever wants to make any progress.
/rant
Am I alone in this thinking?
NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
I am with you Zeek. I don't clean dishes. A Coke can works perdectly. Also the mug will be warm and coke should be served cold. Ice only waters down the Coke.
As for tuition. The tuition was probably not bad when she first enrolled, but they go up every year. You have one or two years in and now you are caught. You need to finish in a local school that will be less expensive. 
http://www.imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=28764731
Traveler
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:
So, here's a ponder. When does something become your own fault and when should the blame be passed around?
I saw this article on yahoo news this morning: http://finance.yahoo.com/college-education/article/109701/placing-the-
blame-as-students-are-buried-in-debt?mod=edu-collegeprep
It just seems silly to me that the whole point of the article is finding someone to place blame on. Why isn't the girl taking any of the blame? Sure she was young when she made the decisions but I wasn't a blithering imbecile when I was entering college. I'm pretty sure I could at least do some simple math of looking up starting salaries for my major and then figuring out how much debt I'd be in due to tuition.
I'm ok with them pointing out that her mom could have helped her more in making the decisions. I can see how a kid will take their parents word on a lot of these types of decisions.
Blaming the school and the bank? Why would either of them step in to tell someone not to give them business? "I don't think you can afford $200,000 in tuition over 4 years. Maybe you should give your money to one of our competitors." Not happening. They also point out that student loans are very difficult to default on. So, to the bank it's a pretty solid investment. I don't see them as doing anything wrong. They're just looking out for their own interests. They didn't force her into anything.
I just don't see the point of looking for someone else to blame in that situation. Does it do any good? Not really. It's still the girl's problem. She needs to figure out a plan to solve it. She also needs to move out of an expensive city and start lowering her monthly expenses if she ever wants to make any progress.
/rant
Am I alone in this thinking?
Zeek...it's too bad you aren't 10 years older. ;)
I totally agree with you. I recently listened to my landlord, who while "asset rich" is $$$ poor, tell me how his oldest of three wants to go to a private college. If she doesn't go there, she's going to stay home and go to a JC...she's got no second choice school. She's also being a terror in her later teens and he wants to give her the opportunity to go where she wants...AND wants her out of the house. But the debt load she'd take on for a career path as an overseas missionary (it's a private christian college). Yoinks. Not a great idea to borrow to make her dream come true. I'd be sitting the kid down and telling her that her career dreams are not going to happen via that route. State school, here she comes.
We've gotten to the point where a college education is expected. The sad thing is that it isn't often necessary and people are going into huge amounts of debt for something that they may never use. I could be doing my job without a degree...a lot of my co-workers are. I'm sorry, but religious/women's studies? What do you think you're going to be doing with that degree? If you're going to take on a huge debt load, the earning potential at the end better be significant.
I did learn a lot in college, but most of it wasn't in the classroom. I would've appreciated graduating without $50k in debt, especially since I've only used my college education for approximately 5 weeks... I wouldn't trade my time in college for anything, but that doesn't mean I would do it over again, especially when it is getting so expensive.
On a shallow side note: That girls debt troubles are catching up to her. She looks like she's about 40, rather than mid-twenties.
***************
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:
Originally posted by RugBug:
Zeek...it's too bad you aren't 10 years older. ;)
I totally agree with you. I recently listened to my landlord, who while "asset rich" is $$$ poor, tell me how his oldest of three wants to go to a private college. If she doesn't go there, she's going to stay home and go to a JC...she's got no second choice school. She's also being a terror in her later teens and he wants to give her the opportunity to go where she wants...AND wants her out of the house. But the debt load she'd take on for a career path as an overseas missionary (it's a private christian college). Yoinks. Not a great idea to borrow to make her dream come true. I'd be sitting the kid down and telling her that her career dreams are not going to happen via that route. State school, here she comes.
We've gotten to the point where a college education is expected. The sad thing is that it isn't often necessary and people are going into huge amounts of debt for something that they may never use. I could be doing my job without a degree...a lot of my co-workers are. I'm sorry, but religious/women's studies? What do you think you're going to be doing with that degree? If you're going to take on a huge debt load, the earning potential at the end better be significant.
I did learn a lot in college, but most of it wasn't in the classroom. I would've appreciated graduating without $50k in debt, especially since I've only used my college education for approximately 5 weeks... I wouldn't trade my time in college for anything, but that doesn't mean I would do it over again, especially when it is getting so expensive.
On a shallow side note: That girls debt troubles are catching up to her. She looks like she's about 40, rather than mid-twenties.
Yeah I agree with you about the cost of a college education. It's really getting ridiculous. I could go on a long rant about federal loans too. Basically if you save up for college they stiff you on federal loans. Does that seem right? Cause it sure seemed like a kick in the crotch to me. "oh you worked a ton in high school to save up. Well we're going to punish you now." wtf!?! Sorry I better just let that one go.
lol about her looking 40. That just shows that she is the one who has to deal with the problem now. No matter who they want to blame. To me placing blame like that is just a cop out. It doesn't seem healthy to me. Own the problem and work on a solution. Don't waste time or energy on blame.
NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
I have to say from experience that there is a ton of merit to education when hiring people. But after dealing with a boss who considered hiring people who looked good on paper, even before interviews, there is much more to be said for experienced and driven individuals. Someone willing to work hard for $8.50 an hour rather than being on public assistance is much more desirable (IMHO) than an "educated" person expecting three extra dollars an hour and resting on their education laurels. Strange how some people believe that the jobs they fall into (or are hiring for) are made so much easier with a degree or two rather than working in a related field and continuing their education.
How much of the American work force actually requires any amount of degrees? Sure is a good place to start. But (again IMHO) I strongly believe that people with a high school education and some college credit should be hired on with partial tuition payment as an incentive. When already working in a related field with the ability to advance in an already established workplace offers much more personal security than the systems used in most companies.
I know this might not work for many companies or businesses, but it sure would be worth looking into. After nearly ten years in an organization that expected all their employees to advance up the chain under the scrutiny of dismissal I can say that belief is detrimental to keeping a stable work force. If an employee decides to do the required amount of work with an occasional cost of living increase and the ability to secure raises based on merit, cool.
After watching people do their job well and with a smile for five to ten years only to be given the ultimatum of "Move up or move out", well, piss on that. Experienced are worth ten times the amount of new hires. Literally.
Crap. Ranting. Back to baby squeals and tiny teeth gnawing through a knuckle or two.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
The country is making a big mistake not teaching kids to cook and raise a garden and build fires.
-Loretta Lynn
Smarts are the brains that make America think.
-Will Sasso as Steven Segal, MadTV
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME