Romanticization of the Civil War
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Ehm, Geezer, just how likely are blacks in the deep south to REPORT a hate crime? And how likely are they to get a ruling in their favour? Sorry, man, I get you want to defend the ground you're standing on, but the statistics, they're kinda flawed.
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
You say that like it's a bad thing. Of course, whenever I hear someone say rebel scum, I hear it with the dripping disdain of an imperial officer and to the quick boot steps of stormtroopers.
You too eh ?
Who, much like the DHS, TSA and related alphabet goons, can't shoot worth a damn.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ImperialStormtrooperMarksma
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That was kind of a factor during the war too, mind you - s'what you get for using conscripts as cannon fodder.
-F
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The Emancipation Proclamation was issued on January 1, 1863. This was 6 months before the Battle of Gettysburg. Lincoln had actually issued an earlier draft in late 1862, but officially the slaves were freed by law on January 1. It took real balls for Lincoln to do that, considering that up until that moment, the war had not gone well for the North. Lincoln's Generals, dozens of them, were incompetant, and many refused to engage the enemy in battle. McClellan, Meade, et al were constantly being berated by Lincoln for their lack of ability and will to fight, and things did look rather dismal for the Union in 1862, right up until Gettysburg in July, 1863. The Confederate Generals were too talented for their Northern counterparts, and Lee and Jackson and many others whipped the Northerners in battle after battle. On the way to Gettysburg, a battle fought at Antietam Creek, Maryland, in September, 1862, proved to be the costliest single day of casualties in the entire war. Both sides reeled from that engagement. But Lincoln pressed on with Emancipation despite the growing dislike of the war in the North. He exhibited great courage and leadership in doing that. That moment defined the Civil War in the opinion of many historians. The romanticism of the Old South is a myth. A myth carried on today by folks who don't want to, or cannot face the truth of that era. Slavery was a brutal, horrific practice that had to be destroyed at any price. Lincoln knew this. He issued orders that sent 200,000 men to their deaths following Gettysburg, as the war moved into a different, even more bloody phase over the last two years.
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And we've already established that man for man, a Southerner can whip any ten Yankees and be home in time for chicken fried steak, fresh biscuits and gravy. So unless your plan is to wait for us all to die of heart attacks, we Southerners will win the next conflict (which comes in 2012). 
Ooohhh, dear, thank you for that...I needed a good laugh!
If it were even SLIGHTLY true, you'd nonetheless get your asses kicked by any Ozzie around... 
"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Ehm, Geezer, just how likely are blacks in the deep south to REPORT a hate crime? And how likely are they to get a ruling in their favour? Sorry, man, I get you want to defend the ground you're standing on, but the statistics, they're kinda flawed.
There is a DOJ report that indicates that hate crimes are probably underreported http://www.ncjrs.gov/App/publications/Abstract.aspx?id=209911 but it doesn't note any regional differences. The Southern Poverty Law Center cites this report, but again mentions no regional trends in underreporting. http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-i
ssues/2005/winter/hate-crime
If you google "underreporting of hate crimes" you'll find that it seems to be endemic worldwide.
That being said, in the cursory search I ran to find the cites above, I didn't find sources stating there is more underreporting of hate crimes in the South than in other places. If you have such a source, please let me know.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Hmm, that does defy expectations. Interesting.
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And we've already established that man for man, a Southerner can whip any ten Yankees and be home in time for chicken fried steak, fresh biscuits and gravy.
Actually, we've "established" quite the opposite. Look at the scoreboard. Yankees-1, Traitorous Rebel Scum-0. :) Like I said, we'd be more than happy to go on kicking your asses; we've gotten quite good at it, and had plenty of practice!
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
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And of course, we Yanks will be right there as always to deliver yet another epic ass-kicking. After all these years, we've gotten really, really good at it. :)
And we've already established that man for man, a Southerner can whip any ten Yankees and be home in time for chicken fried steak, fresh biscuits and gravy. So unless your plan is to wait for us all to die of heart attacks, we Southerners will win the next conflict (which comes in 2012).
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What in the devil's name are you talking about, man? There are no men in the south, just man-shaped globs of butter and fail. Just you wait for the Golden Horde (of California) to cross your borders, and enforce homosexuality and socialism on the vanquished.
Mincing, can we make them our slaves? They seem to have no issue with the concept. :)
BTW, thanks for the best laugh I've had all day. "Man-shaped globs of butter and fail", indeed.
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Mikey, I don't doubt your ability to conquer Redneckistan if you really wanted to, but, um... WHY?
If you do though, make sure not to bomb all the Corn Dog 7 franchises - it kinda pisses me off that there aren't any up here and I have to make do with the puny common corn dog, meh...
That's like, the only thing I miss about TX, the ability to get a two-handed "corn dog" made from a whole polish sausage, typical texan overkill, but DAMN them things were good!
-F
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"Redneckistan"...I love it 
Can we just declare them a separate country and bomb them? It worked once...
"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10
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