It’s over: MPs say the special relationship with US is dead

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Originally posted by rue:

That is a past still remembered.

Hey what can I say ... in the US political memory only lasts about 2 years. Time enough to do your damage and then buy yourself a new image for the next election. Unless you are from the south, in which case your memory might go back to the mid 1800's.

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The people of Northern Ireland have more right to call themselves Irish and live there, than you do to call yourself American, or live where you do. The people who live there, don't want to leave the UK. Calling it part of the British Empire is a gross mischaracterisation, regardless of how it came to be hundreds of years ago.

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Originally posted by citizen:

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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
There was alot of violence involved in the dissolution of the British empire

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I said relatively, and considering contenders are places like France, it's fairly accurate. Certainly more accurate than your statement :)

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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
1. That the people who were fighting Britain, had the means of attacking Britain itself... they would have

2. That these attacks would have accelerated that decline

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Indeed, if only the IRA had had the means, say, to attack Britain itself. Of course they could never quite manage it because of lack of funding, probably because nations that are staunchly anti-terrorist, like say the US, would never send them bomb money.

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I wasn't referring to Ireland... different situation I think. Almost more of a internal matter than a foreign war that.

more Sudan, the Mahdi revolt, the Boer war, the Zulu wars, the Marahatta confederation in India

examples like that, maintaining forces that far away from home ( even though East Indian Company forces were largely Indian ) was insanely expensive

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"The people of Northern Ireland have more right to call themselves Irish and live there, than you do to call yourself American, or live where you do."

You're right. I'm a first-generation American, not responsible in any way for the things that were done here in the past or for being born here, and unable to 'go back where I came from' (which would be Poland BTW).

Such is life.

I am not wrong though to point out that the British settled in Northern Ireland by force.

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SignyM

I had that epiphany watching a news report of a African mother comforting her starving and dying child. She did what I have done with those on death's door - I recognized the soft comforting strokes, the quiet and helpless watchfulness in her eyes. All the differences - time, location, language, skin color, cause - erased.

That's what I found so offensive and cynical about Geezer's choice of a white child. As if we all 'understand' that a white child is more valuable.

Maybe I'm slow though. Your type of epiphany came to me later in life.

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Mmmm, I guess that means me too...given I'm SECOND generation American. Or does that mean I only have HALF a right to call myself American and live where I do?

Goodness, it gets so confusing...how about someone who's parents were one immigrant and one child of an immigrant and an "American"? Are they one-quarter responsible for the atrocities? Do they only have three-quarters right to call themselves American?

Or does that mean I'm half responsible for all the wrongs done by France? Or that I have to call myself "Half-French American"? I can't call myself French-American, 'cuz only my mom was French. Or, wait, all Black people, even if one parent was white, are "African Americans"...what does that mean for me?

Oh, shit, what the hell; it's just too complex to know who to blame for what and who has what right to call themselves whatever...


"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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