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It’s over: MPs say the special relationship with US is dead

POSTED BY: AURaptor
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GINOBIFFARONI

Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:33 PM

or you wind up with shit like this go unpunished

good point Frem

but this was on US TV

why wasn't this bitch lynched ?

ANTIMASON

Thursday, April 1, 2010 1:49 AM

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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:

I think you make interesting and valuable points.

uh oh watch yourself...

you dont want to go against the grain around here

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Would Iran want nukes ( if they do, and I would ) if they were not being threatened daily, and already had a neighbor attacked on maybes and what ifs ?

Perhaps the best way to exert influence out into the world would be to simply say, hey we would love to trade with you... except for this little thing

free choice on everyones part

I like the idea...

I disagree that it was ever the policy of America, but that is a debate for another time...

How would you suggest the US move towards this idea ?

just as you said, just do business. president Coolidge once said "the chief business of the American people is business", something i believe at heart. we go around the world, fighting for liberty.. and we've nearly lost it here at home! our goal should be unrivaled economic and personal liberty at home. then, by influence and example we can export our ideas of liberty, at the grass roots, at the consumer level. the current Iranian revolution would be my example, but just look at Vietnam- all those years of fighting, and now we trade with them

of course the first step would have to be systematically withdrawing our military around the world. id work on withdrawing our memberships in the UN, NATO,(and trade entities like IMF WTO) and other global bodies. just make it clear to the world that we're no longer the worlds body guard. for all we do, and all our good intentions, we retain this status as oppressors and imperialists- we get little to no appreciation for it. so lets stop! allow for divine providence. let them fight their own battles, protect their own countries

then, just set up trade agreements, make it as accomodating as possible for commerce. scrap the current managed trade we have now and pursue some real honest 'free' trade. work at home to become the standard bearer of economic liberty, and then export it. as was the case with the Chinese, just the influence of capitalism alone has done more to improve the living standards of their people then any of the central economic planning the communists could devise.

thats my model.. oversimplified of course

CHRISISALL

Thursday, April 1, 2010 1:54 AM

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the influence of capitalism alone has done more to improve the living standards of their people then any of the central economic planning the communists could devise.

Wow. And only millions had to die for it.

You BETTER believe in reincarnation as I do, Anti.
Or else your math might just suck.

The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

NIKI2

Thursday, April 1, 2010 1:59 AM

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Don't say that to Niki, Signy... she will freak out lol

I've already said I agree with most of what people have written. Were it not for the

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You poor, deluded, ignoramus. If you'd pull your head out of your ass once in a while

and

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moronic dickwad

I'd probably agree with all of that quote. Nonetheless, I understand Sig's anger; that wind we have blowing through here is so busy unfurling the flag that it sometimes makes ME want to scream some obscenities.

Willful blindness isn't my problem, it's lack of perspective. I will continue to say that our "empire", like those before it, has backed evil people and done evil things. That doesn't make it any more evil than any other empire; we've just had an easy global reach. Any one of the previous empires would have done the same thing if they had, too.

Sorry I don't dwell in the black and white you want, but that doesn't mean I'm blind, either. My problem with you was your willingness to blame US, the people on this forum, advocate violent takeover and claimed I did and said things I didn't. Otherwise, we pretty much agree.

After which, by the way, you erased all your posts and disappeared. Always been curious why...

"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

KWICKO

Thursday, April 1, 2010 2:08 AM

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Nonetheless, I understand Sig's anger; that wind we have blowing through here is so busy unfurling the flag that it sometimes makes ME want to scream some obscenities.

Yeah, I used to say the only thing that could make me burn an American flag would be a law saying I couldn't do that. Now I think Rappy wrapping himself up in it every two minutes is just about enough...

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

NIKI2

Thursday, April 1, 2010 2:11 AM

Nah, Mike, it's not worth the effort. Just the wind in the trees, muttering to itself...

If it were a person, it would pat itself on the back and think smugly what a great American it is...but it's not...

"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

ANTIMASON

Thursday, April 1, 2010 2:12 AM

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Wow. And only millions had to die for it.

the Great Leap Forward was a marxist/communist agenda wasnt it? i always attributed the millions of deaths to Maos social engineering

AURAPTOR

Thursday, April 1, 2010 2:12 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:

Jeez, Rappy, why the FUCK do you think that people really, REALLY hate us? It's not because we're so nice!

Actually, it is because we're so nice. Tyrannical Gov'ts lie to their citizens about our way of life, and who we are, so that the locals won't get their own uppity ideas of 'freedom'. Keep the masses stupid, keep them busy and keep them under control. Worked for the Soviet Union for nearly 70 years.

" ... you're going to pass legislation that will cover 300 ( million ) American people in different ways it takes a long time to do the necessary administrative steps that have to be taken to put the legislation together to control the people." - Rep. John Dingell ( D - MI )

Your fucking socialist utopia awaits!

Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor

Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."

CHRISISALL

Thursday, April 1, 2010 2:15 AM

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Your fucking socialist utopia awaits!

Ya PROMISE????

GINOBIFFARONI

Thursday, April 1, 2010 2:22 AM

I became so agitated talking to people who figured they had no personal responsibility for the actions of their country, I was going to write this board off and leave.

I thank Signy Again for making the same point

You seem to want the status quo, or have no idea how to effect any change at all... you seem just to not like the reality change may just be forced upon you

I disagree, the application of violence is the only means left, the only question is who does it and to what end

black and white, mass murder, letting war criminals go free... whatever

" our "empire", like those before it, has backed evil people and done evil things. That doesn't make it any more evil than any other empire; we've just had an easy global reach. Any one of the previous empires would have done the same thing if they had, too. "

but other people murder children too, why are you upset at me, would be an equivalent in my mind to what you said there... doesn't exactly sit right with me