Yet More Death Threats Against Democrats - Including One From John Boehner!
POSTED BY: Kwicko
UPDATED: Saturday, March 27, 2010 04:30
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Posted by Jongsie:
It's absurd to try to deny that some vile things were said and even possibly done to these Congressmen, but HEY ....stop trying to link the nut jobs to Republicans or even Tea Party people.
See, Jongs, I don't think it IS absurd to link the nutjobs to those people. In the case of Tom Periello, the guys who put up his brother's home address and then called him "collateral damage" ARE Tea Party activists. It's not absurd to link them if they link themselves.
John Boehner saying that Steve Dreihaus "may be a dead man" isn't "trying" to link nutjobs to Republicans - it's ACTUALLY linking them by their own words! And when Michael Steele says he's putting Pelosi in the firing line and has a picture of her in flames on the party's main website, I don't think that's a stretch to try to link him with fomenting this ugliness.
When Sarah Palin says "we need to reload and take aim" at certain Democrats, and puts up a map with their locations designated by cross-hairs, it's no stretch to figure out the imagery she's trying to conjure.
These links aren't tenuous; they're very real. The Republican party, and the Tea Party, are behaving like Al Qaeda, and should be labeled terrorist organizations. They are using fear and terror to try to influence political positions, votes, and policies. That's pretty much the textbook legal definition of terrorism.
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...the United Nations General Assembly has condemned terrorist acts using the following political description of terrorism: "Criminal acts intended or calculated to provoke a state of terror in the general public, a group of persons or particular persons for political purposes are in any circumstance unjustifiable, whatever the considerations of a political, philosophical, ideological, racial, ethnic, religious or any other nature that may be invoked to justify them."
- from the wiki
Oh, and by the way, if you're trying to link the efforts of the tea-baggers to the Republican party, there's about a 3 in 4 chance that you'll be correct. Latest polls show 74% of tea-baggers self-identify as Republicans or former Republicans.
So yeah, there ARE links.
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
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Niki
Here is the website link to TownHall. http://townhall.com/
I just can't remember how I ended up getting their regular emails - it's been I guess 5 or more years by now since I signed up. I used to get both TownHall The Federalist, but The Federalist stopped sending for some reason. Anyway, maybe when the next TownHall email comes I'll see if there's a link somehwere on it that you might use. Just remember, my intentions are good but my memory ... you might need to joggle it.
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Niki, I think they were talkin of the events leading up to and involving the 1968 Democratic National Convention.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Democratic_National_Convention
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Democratic_National_Convention_prote
st_activity
http://blogs.chron.com/40yearsafter/2008/08/the_whole_world_was_watchi
ng_c_2.html
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"I think we got a buncha thugs here, Dan."
And yeah, we did, the biggest one of em being that ratbastard Lyndon B Johnson, grrr.
A pox on both their houses, you ask me.
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So no more running. I aim to misbehave.
Shiney, Lets be bad guys!
i wanna know what big government expects when they push people to the limits.
Personally i think this shit is hilarious and its a long time coming. It seems americans are growing balls.
Sometimes people only understand one language. Force. Im not saying i support what is happening but i sure as hell dont feel bad that its happening.
"I think that it’s best if we stand and unite, stand and we fight, take a f*ckin’ stand for your rights, stand for your life, revolution’s the only solution, fire back like Chechens battling’ Vladimir Putin," - TCM
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Originally posted by ShineyImABadGuy:
So no more running. I aim to misbehave.
Shiney, Lets be bad guys!
i wanna know what big government expects when they push people to the limits.
Personally i think this shit is hilarious and its a long time coming. It seems americans are growing balls.
Sometimes people only understand one language. Force. Im not saying i support what is happening but i sure as hell dont feel bad that its happening.
"I think that it’s best if we stand and unite, stand and we fight, take a f*ckin’ stand for your rights, stand for your life, revolution’s the only solution, fire back like Chechens battling’ Vladimir Putin," - TCM
In other words, you completely agree with Osama bin Laden. If things don't go your way, do whatever it takes to make people notice you and pay attention, even if it involves murdering people who aren't involved. Is that what you're saying? Are you saying you admire Bin Laden for "growing some balls" and using force because people only understand that one language? 'Cause that's the way it comes across.
By the way, would you credit the Democrats for growing some balls, too? Do you respect them for using the one language you understand, and FORCING you to get insurance? According to your post, you should be fine with this! ;)
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Before someone else does it in a ham-fisted and out of context fashion, Jefferson's letter to Smith, such as exists, in it's full form.
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persevering lying. the British ministry have so long hired their gazetteers to repeat and model into every form lies about our being in anarchy, that the world has at length believed them, the English nation has believed them, the ministers themselves have come to believe them, & what is more wonderful, we have believed them ourselves. yet where does this anarchy exist? where did it ever exist, except in the single instance of Massachusets? and can history produce an instance of a rebellion so honourably conducted? I say nothing of it's motives. they were founded in ignorance, not wickedness. god forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. the people cannot be all, & always, well informed. the past which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive; if they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. we have had 13. states independant 11. years. there has been one rebellion. that comes to one rebellion in a century & a half for each state. what country before ever existed a century & half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? let them take arms. the remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. what signify a few lives lost in a century or two? the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is it's natural manure. our Convention has been too much impressed by. . .
-Paris Nov. 13. 1787.
More of Jeffersons correspondance here.
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/jefferson/jefffed.html
-Frem
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Quote:It is absurd. The Tea Party has officially denounced violence and threats. That does not, however, include legal measures of harrassment and protests against Congressmen who caved in to Pelosi and Obama, and ignored the will of their constituents. They can't and won't get a free ride.
Originally posted by Kwicko:
See, Jongs, I don't think it IS absurd to link the nutjobs to those people. In the case of Tom Periello, the guys who put up his brother's home address and then called him "collateral damage" ARE Tea Party activists. It's not absurd to link them if they link themselves.
Quote:Those are examples of hyperbole, aka hype. It's always been quite common to use military and war strategy terminology in the political arena. Democrats and yourself here are choosing to be literalists now because it's a handy situation to exploit in the mass distraction effort away from the shitty new draconian Law.
John Boehner saying that Steve Dreihaus "may be a dead man" isn't "trying" to link nutjobs to Republicans - it's ACTUALLY linking them by their own words! And when Michael Steele says he's putting Pelosi in the firing line and has a picture of her in flames on the party's main website, I don't think that's a stretch to try to link him with fomenting this ugliness.
Quote:Again hyperbole and humor, like when she's viciously attacked in the mainstream media every day....oh it's just comedy don't ya know, or... she's made herself a target. Besides, you don't take her seriously, you don't acknoweldge her influence in any way, so why worry if she puts "targets" on Congressmen she wants to defeat.
When Sarah Palin says "we need to reload and take aim" at certain Democrats, and puts up a map with their locations designated by cross-hairs, it's no stretch to figure out the imagery she's trying to conjure.
Quote:Well now you're really going over the cliff friend. That's just a rant of frustrating helplessness. I recognize it because I get the same way often. Yes it is going to get ugly out there beteween now and November elections. As I said yesterday, there is a line of sanity which cannot be crossed. If physical harm comes to any politician you will know that the line of sanity has been broken, but that will likely not happen unless some kook decides to make it so. In any case, freedom of speech cannot be impinged because of the potential threat from a mentally ill person being influenced by something he hears somewhere.
These links aren't tenuous; they're very real. The Republican party, and the Tea Party, are behaving like Al Qaeda, and should be labeled terrorist organizations. They are using fear and terror to try to influence political positions, votes, and policies. That's pretty much the textbook legal definition of terrorism.
Quote:Fortunately, we live in America and have a Constitution that protects our rights. The UN General Assembly, aka The Official Terrorist Appeasing /Jew Hating body of the world has no say in American political discourse.
...the United Nations General Assembly has condemned terrorist acts using the following political description of terrorism: "Criminal acts intended or calculated to provoke a state of terror in the general public, a group of persons or particular persons for political purposes are in any circumstance unjustifiable, whatever the considerations of a political, philosophical, ideological, racial, ethnic, religious or any other nature that may be invoked to justify them."
Quote:Everyone in America would know that Tea Party supporters are likely Republicans or former Republican voters. Certainly no mystery there, and certainly no assumed danger to anyone. When Janet Napolitano made those comments last year about right-wi
Oh, and by the way, if you're trying to link the efforts of the tea-baggers to the Republican party, there's about a 3 in 4 chance that you'll be correct. Latest polls show 74% of tea-baggers self-identify as Republicans or former Republicans.
So yeah, there ARE links.
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The UN General Assembly, aka The Official Terrorist Appeasing /Jew Hating body of the world has no say in American political discourse.
Talk about driving off a cliff... Now you've headed straight into PN/Rappy territory.
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You know I call 'em like I see 'em. I wrote a fair response back to you. You agree with me? Not? Don't tell me you only want to cherry pick one line out of dozens just to be snarky about, 'cause that's a big step backwards for you.
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