Students, professors to protest education cutbacks
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
And now the Legislature, in its' infinite wisdom, has come up with a great new plan....Make cursing illegal, and issue fines to people for bad language! I'm not joking, there is a measure in the Captol now to do just that. In many ways it's a look into the possible future of America.
Next they'll tell you to use the three shells!
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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School fires entire teaching staff
ASSOCIATED PRESS
Last Updated: 10:50 PM, February 24, 2010
Posted: 1:44 PM, February 24, 2010
CENTRAL FALLS, R.I. — A Rhode Island school district has voted to fire all the teachers at an underperforming school.
The Central Falls School Committee voted Tuesday evening to fire every educator at Central Falls High School at the end of the school year.
It's the only school in the tiny, impoverished city north of Providence. Only about half its students graduate, and only 7 percent of 11th-graders were proficient in math in 2009.
The plan was developed because of a federal effort to makeover failing schools.
The Central Falls Teachers Union says it is reviewing legal options and hasn't decided what action to take.
Education Secretary Arne Duncan applauds the decision and says "when schools continue to struggle we have a collective obligation to take action."
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/all_teachers_fired_at_underperfo
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They should stop their bitchin' and remember their place.
Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."
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"Next they'll tell you to use the three shells!"
How do you load a shotgun with three ?
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"... public money needs to go to programs that have some public benefit..."
I disagree with your very narrow definition.
In your example, education should stop at high school. Everything you need to know to get a job you can learn in high shcool, if the curriculum is structured correctly.
Or maybe you think college is necessary for SOME jobs that need higher learning. In that case colleges should only graduate engineers, doctors, people with learning that has PRACTICAL application. Theoretical mathematics ? Gone. Physics ? Poof ! Theoretical chemistry ? Erased.
Or maybe you concede that SOME higher learning that doesn't have immediate application should be allowed. After all, how can society make technological progress without people pushing the boundaries of the known ? But then you have created idiot savants, people who know what to do and how to do it - but not why, or if, in fact, it should be done. As long as the money is good and someone is willing to pay, is as far as the logic goes.
Well, maybe it might be OK if SOME people learned history, logic, and rhetoric. Oooey gooey soft stuff that addresses things like - what are we assuming ? How did we get here ? Where should we go from here ?
Or maybe, just maybe, a population that is truly educated is a better, more thoughtful, more aware society.
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BTW - this is from a person whose every degree is scientific.
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Originally posted by rue:
"Next they'll tell you to use the three shells!"
How do you load a shotgun with three ?
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Not the reference I was makin'.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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I was joking - I guess it was pretty lame. 
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Originally posted by rue:
"Next they'll tell you to use the three shells!"
How do you load a shotgun with three ?
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Silence is consent.
Saiga 12 gauge with drum magazine.
Only three? But it's got room for 30!
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
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After all - why settle for one bird when you can get the whole goddamn flock !
Signed
Burt Gummer
That was pretty lame too, hunh ? OK, I'll go away now.
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Originally posted by rue:
"... public money needs to go to programs that have some public benefit..."
I disagree with your very narrow definition.
In your example, education should stop at high school. Everything you need to know to get a job you can learn in high shcool, if the curriculum is structured correctly.
Or maybe you think college is necessary for SOME jobs that need higher learning. In that case colleges should only graduate engineers, doctors, people with learning that has PRACTICAL application. Theoretical mathematics ? Gone. Physics ? Poof ! Theoretical chemistry ? Erased.
Or maybe you concede that SOME higher learning that doesn't have immediate application should be allowed. After all, how can society make technological progress without people pushing the boundaries of the known ? But then you have created idiot savants, people who know what to do and how to do it - but not why, or if, in fact, it should be done. As long as the money is good and someone is willing to pay, is as far as the logic goes.
Well, maybe it might be OK if SOME people learned history, logic, and rhetoric. Oooey gooey soft stuff that addresses things like - what are we assuming ? How did we get here ? Where should we go from here ?
Or maybe, just maybe, a population that is truly educated is a better, more thoughtful, more aware society.
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BTW - this is from a person whose every degree is scientific.
I agree where you think I disagree
theoretical sciences, research, practical engineering... all have very real public benefits
some of the other things might be good as a class, but is ridiculous as a degree program.
And if there is a place for it as a degree program, private donations and interest groups should foot the bill.
A BA in Jewish Studys ?
I'm all for people having a well rounded view of the world, I would argue that you do not get that rounded in school...
but if you are cutting back course because you can't pay for things...
Keep the things that have immediate value, if and when you can afford the basket weaving stuff.. sure why not. But to allow it to interfere with putting out doctors, chemists, engineers, etc
I think that is irresponsible
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I kind of agree ... and kind of disagree.
FWIW, at this point in time the majority of graduate students in the 'hard sciences' come from overseas. After all, the prevailing US attitude is - why work really, really hard at something if it doesn't make you rich ?
And then, many of the new-minted chemists I work with are depressingly narrow-minded techno-drones. Their attitude seems to be - I worked really, really hard to learn how to do this narrow field - now show me the money.
While I can understand the feeling that people should economize in tough times, I think ditching what we used to call 'fluff' classes, or even majors, would simply drive those above trends further. Those who will not go into the sciences or different types of engineering will go into business, and those who go into science or engineering will become even more myopic than now.
FWIW I came up through the 70s, when universities were tightly attuned to society due to the Vietnam War and the hippie movement. New degrees never seen before like 'Women's Studies', and 'Environmental Studies' were being offered. I even took those classes - they were interesting and helped me broaden my outlook. Otherwise I would have remained a provincial geek. And it didn't seem to hurt our generation any to have them.
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