Well... here 'Fahrenheit 9/11' is.

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JASONZZZ

Tuesday, June 29, 2004 12:01 AM

He is an *honorary* Canadian though.

THEGREYJEDI

Tuesday, June 29, 2004 12:12 AM

Given that there are politcal writers what do the same thing, I don't like them either. And if Moore's from Michigan, then my information was wrong. Either way. I'm not big on propaganda. I don't like uppity people from ANY political group in my face telling me to think like them.

"And these three remain: Faith, Hope, and Love. And the greatest of these Love."

BLUESUNWORSHIPPER

Tuesday, June 29, 2004 12:45 AM

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Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
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There's a scene in the movie that your rant reminds me of, one in which a grieving mother listens to an Iraqi woman protesting the slaughter of Iraqi children and US soldiers in the war. An uninformed bigot of a woman steps up and declares the whole scene is a sham, staged for the camera. She shuts up real quick when the grieving mother states emphatically that her son not only died in Iraq, but in Carbala on April 2nd. The uninformed woman (dubbed "bitch" by a large percentage of the audience) walks away muttering effectively that a lot of people have died in Iraq.

Yeah, a lot of people have.

Wake up and smell the crude, dude.

- T

huh? I think this rant, while interesting, belongs in another thread.

Dude,

Apologies, I missed that you had pulled this article off of...what, IMDB? It got cut off on my screen. I was replying to what the writer of the article said. Sorry, it was such a lengthy argument I thought you had posted it, rather than pasting from another site. Again, apologies.

That is, unless you believe that tripe...in which case, shame on you. You be stinky poo person! Nyaah!!

Yeah, that's me trying to be articulate.

- T

DORAN

Tuesday, June 29, 2004 2:27 AM

I just don't like docu-fiction and that's about all Moore knows how to do. I’m not to keen on Moore’s personality either; political ideology aside, Moore is the man that liberals repeatedly mistake Rush Limbaugh for being.

“fakenheit” Ha, that’s funny.

SUCCATASH

Tuesday, June 29, 2004 2:56 AM

I felt sick the day we attacked Iraq. The country was in a fever to spread Freedom, destroy Evil, and take revenge for 9/11.

The Bush administration fed us loads of crap before we attacked Iraq. They sold us the war, treated it like pure business marketing. Terrorism, Good vs. Evil, Imminent Danger, FREEDOM! Then most Americans started jumping up and down like trained monkeys.

Michael Moore comes around and makes a movie that says, "Wake up and take a look around!"

And lots of monkeys got angry.

MELEE

Tuesday, June 29, 2004 3:22 AM

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Originally posted by Succatash:

I felt sick the day we attacked Iraq. The country was in a fever to spread Freedom, destroy Evil, and take revenge for 9/11.

The Bush administration fed us loads of crap before we attacked Iraq. They sold us the war, treated it like pure business marketing. Terrorism, Good vs. Evil, Imminent Danger, FREEDOM! Then most Americans started jumping up and down like trained monkeys.

Michael Moore comes around and makes a movie that says, "Wake up and take a look around!"

And lots of monkeys got angry.

Nicely put Tash (and on a totally unrelated subject: yay for being one of the only people I still recognize around here!).

JASONZZZ

Tuesday, June 29, 2004 3:24 AM

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Originally posted by Succatash:

I felt sick the day we attacked Iraq. The country was in a fever to spread Freedom, destroy Evil, and take revenge for 9/11.

The Bush administration fed us loads of crap before we attacked Iraq. They sold us the war, treated it like pure business marketing. Terrorism, Good vs. Evil, Imminent Danger, FREEDOM! Then most Americans started jumping up and down like trained monkeys.

Michael Moore comes around and makes a movie that says, "Wake up and take a look around!"

And lots of monkeys got angry.

For some reason, you think that all informed Bush-beaters have to like Michael Moore too. Why is that? You don't have to like or dislike what MM has to say - in order to dislike his style and his delivery method (or he as a person or the way he treats people)

You have really fell into MM's brainwashing if you think that everyone like that *has* to by default fall in line into the drumbeat; instead of looking at it for ourselves. Reading the facts and determining and finding our own opinion. You would like it very much that we *not* do that, but instead just hum to the same mantra as you. Just like your dirty little Monkeys. Well, forget that.

Don't make the mistake about monkeys. Angry monkeys throw feces, they can't debate or argue with you. Angry monkeys are irrelevant and beside the point. Calling people who don't like your viewpoint names is childlish and only shows that you can't argue based on viewpoint or substance. It shows that You are easily manipulated into feeling emotional and frequently at a lost for words - but then again, that's the average audience that MM wants, people who will react easily to his emotional drumbeats, people who sees the bright pretty pictures all ordered nice and neat to be spoon fed to you. Well, you don't have my arguments there if you are really refering to the typical MM F-9/11 fans as Angry feces throwing monkeys. But I'd rather just think that at least people who participate here are a cut above that. At least we can all make ourselves available for our opinions and can be verbose about it without resorting to name calling.

And BTW, if you have all the answers as to the mess we have on our hands, speak up man. And just getting rid of Bush and bringing the troops home by itself ain't going to do it. Maybe you can tell us how you will solve the mid-east crisis, the North Korea crisis, the South American mess. Please turn on the spout of knowledge. Oh wait, I feel it now... Oh pooh, that's no fountain of knowledge, that's just you peeing over everyone you feel are beneath you. How apt, just like the monkey that you are.

SUCCATASH

Tuesday, June 29, 2004 3:39 AM

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Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
Calling people who don't like your viewpoint names is childlish and only shows that you can't argue based on viewpoint or substance.

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Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
Hi Suck-a-Tash:

You were saying?

JASONZZZ

Tuesday, June 29, 2004 6:39 AM

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Originally posted by Succatash:
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Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
Calling people who don't like your viewpoint names is childlish and only shows that you can't argue based on viewpoint or substance.

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Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
Hi Suck-a-Tash:

You were saying?

How about you quote me and yourself in context for once?

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=18&t=5935&m=75260#75131

It helps to actually do that when you are having a conversation, but then again, maybe you are just flinging feces again. Come back when you can actually hold more than a couple of things in your head at the same time. A coherent argument requires that you be able to hold more than one ideas in your head and evaluating them.

[Suck-a-Tash holding two coconuts in his hands]

no, no, look at those things. Good golly, those things are not your head. Oh forget it, you don't get the difference anyways.

[Suck-a-Tash holding two coconuts rattling it next to his head making thinking sounds]

JASONZZZ

Tuesday, June 29, 2004 6:54 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Jasonzz.. as usual, you're spouting second-hand opinions. You find the few (very few) negative ones and post them here. And you call Mike Moore a propagandist? And you do this with outrage???

Wait! Wait! I know! You're just trying to "balance the picture!"

Heh? My opinions are my own. Other people's opinions are theirs. Every review, even positives ones, are a double-slap. Almost without exception, each reviewer states the same refute that MM's "documentary" is a mockery to the profession of documentary makers. MM is uses the same propaganda style as the Nazi's do.

I am not trying to balance the picture. Now you are confusing other's arguments. You need to go back and read my posts again. I am pointing out the despicable methods that MM uses to revise the facts, to skew them. He has found a swayable audience with a need to hate, an existing target and build a false picture around it. Ha, all to incite your emotions and all the while picking your pockets. All he wants to do is use you and swindle you out of your money. Have you asked him what he will do with all of that money? Will it go to his $1.25M New York penthouse? or will it go towards another house?

I am telling you, for once, to not be some one else's sheep. You've traded one master for another one is all that you've done. Think for yourselves and see what sort of carny tricks he has pulled over your eyes. If you keep sending MM the message that this sort of irresponsible entertainment is okay to keep perpetuating, think about what's next. There will be more of the same kind of crap, not just in the political arena, there will be more of it everywhere. heh? Is this the kind of crap you want everywhere?

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Originally posted by SignyM:

MacBaker, Jasonzz, Crevanreaver- GO SEE THE FILM. I don't want to hear your "second-hand" opinions!

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