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Pirates Attack Wrong Ship!

POSTED BY: Kwicko
UPDATED: Sunday, October 11, 2009 08:22
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Friday, October 9, 2009 4:06 AM

You wouldn't just hit the dumping ships, you'd hit anything wave the same damn flag...

and if you didn't see what flag it was because you have a shitty little boat and no real navy

any asshole foreigner becomes fair game





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Friday, October 9, 2009 4:50 AM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
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The fishing thing may have had some peripheral impact on the upswing of piracy at first, but I can't imagine it took to long before even the successful fisherman decided there was more money to be made knocking off transports.

Again, repeat after me...

You know what the difference between a pirate and a customs inspector is ?

Perceived legitimacy.


You don't like the toll, don't sail in their waters.
I know that's drastically oversimplifying it, but what gives US the right to decide which other nations policies within their OWN waters are valid or not ?
Outside of em, meh - fire at will.

-F




Hello,

I was under the impression that the pirates were seizing ships in international waters and then retreating to domestic waters to avoid pursuit.

--Anthony


"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Friday, October 9, 2009 4:52 AM

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Originally posted by AG05:
Customs inspections usually involve less supressing fire?


Ah, you've never been to Columbia, I see.

-F

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Friday, October 9, 2009 4:54 AM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
I was under the impression that the pirates were seizing ships in international waters and then retreating to domestic waters to avoid pursuit


Huhwha ?

That makes as much "sense" logistically as Mexican cartels supposedly coming across the border to buy shoddy, overpriced american semi-autos and then smuggling them back across the border - instead of having their suppliers chuck a couple AKs in with the kilos.

Given the size, speed and quality of the boats involved in this "piracy", I find that claim extraordinarily dubious, honestly.

-F

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Friday, October 9, 2009 5:00 AM

Hello,

I'm from Florida, where you can get to international waters, gamble, and return in the space of a few hours on a slow ship. Are you saying this exceeds the capabilities of the pirates?

If cruise liners are violating the sovereign waters of Somalia, I'm surprised. That would seem like an easy no-no to avoid.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Friday, October 9, 2009 5:42 AM

# On November 15, 2008, Somali pirates seized the supertanker MV Sirius Star, 450 miles off the coast of Kenya. The ship was carrying around $100 million worth of oil and had a 25-man crew. This marked the largest tonnage vessel ever seized by pirates.[68]

Hello,

Pulled this from wikipedia.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Friday, October 9, 2009 6:04 AM


Thanks for the info, Anthony - although that would for damned sure take more than the rinky-dink boats we've been shown so far, and better navigation, logistics and cohesion than we've been lead to believe.

Kinda hard to portray em as rinkydink rowboat pirates in one hand, and on the other, a dreaded scourge of the seas - which is kinda what the media has been doing.

Once they're out in international waters though, they're fair game, and yeah, privateers would be a wonderful solution - keep Blackwater busy doing something other than plotting a rightwing coup.

-F

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Friday, October 9, 2009 6:52 AM



it appears the majority of the boardings happened in coastal waters, most in the gulf of aden.



" I don't believe in hypothetical situations - it's kinda like lying to your brain "

" They don't hate America, they hate Americans " Homer Simpson


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Friday, October 9, 2009 9:35 AM

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These pirates are just youngsters with no education and no hope. They have few options for survival. I doubt anyone in their situation would do differently.


The Somali Navy explanation was closer. Many were formerly Somali Coast Guard. They are not fools. Also, pirates are cool. I find it surprising that fellow browncoats would think otherwise.

ETA: As for these specific pirates of whom the thread was about:

These are without a doubt the worst pirates I've ever heard of.

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Friday, October 9, 2009 12:17 PM

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Originally posted by AG05:
like I said, I could understand them shooting up barrel-dumping ships. But there's no money in it, so they hit cargo ships instead.

Why don't shipping companies hire those Blackwater dudes for protection? Mercenaries vs. Pirates, that'd make some good reality TV right there. We could take bets.

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Guess I'm just a good man.
Well, I'm alright.



I'd put my money on the pirates. Blackwater hasn't exactly done a stellar job, even when facing an enemy armed with such high-tech weapons as rocks and homemade pipe bombs. Put 'em up against a foe that was born and raised on the sea, and you'll have lots of nice pictures of "American contractors" stripped naked, burned, and hung from their own mast.

Mike

The percentage you're paying is too high-priced
While you're living beyond all your means;
And the man in the suit has just bought a new car
From the profit he's made on your dreams

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