Voters steer Europe to the right

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SIGNYM

Tuesday, June 9, 2009 6:31 PM

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Far too well indeed.

Because ours works so well....

WAITING ROOM DEATHS

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NEW YORK - A man rushed to a Brooklyn hospital in diabetic shock died when he was ignored for seven hours in the emergency room, his furious family claims in a lawsuit. Todd Johnson, 42, twice tried to leave Interfaith Hospital to get help elsewhere, only to collapse outside and be carried back to the ER by security guards, his relatives say.

http://nuttynewswire.com/?va=10192

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KINGS COUNTY (WABC) -- New York City hospital officials promised reforms at a Brooklyn psychiatric ward where surveillance footage captured a woman falling from her chair, writhing on the floor and dying as workers watched without helping for an hour. Esmin Green, 49, had been waiting in the emergency room at the city-owned Kings County Hospital Center for nearly 24 hours when she toppled from her seat at 5:32 a.m. on June 19, falling face down on the floor.
She was dead by 6:35, when someone on the medical staff, flagged down by a person in the waiting room, finally approached, nudged Green with her foot, and gently prodded her shoulder, as if to wake her. The staffer then left and returned with someone wearing a white lab coat who examined her and summoned help.

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local&id=6237821

PATIENT DUMPING

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The Los Angeles city attorney's office filed false-imprisonment and dependent-care-endangerment charges against hospital giant Kaiser Permanente on Wednesday, the first criminal prosecution of a medical center accused of "dumping" patients on skid row. The charges stem from an incident earlier this year when a 63-year-old patient from Kaiser Permanente's Bellflower hospital was videotaped as she left a taxi in gown and socks, and then wandered skid row streets.

www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-dumping16nov16,0,3911487.story

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The investigation uncovered evidence that vans dispatched by the College Hospital chain left as many as 150 mentally ill patients on skid row in the last two years

www.latimes.com/news/opinion/editorials/la-ed-dumping10-2009apr10,0,32
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INSURANCE RESCISSION

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The LA Times reports that Health Net, one of the largest Health insurers in California has been found to have breached their contract and displayed bad faith to the tune of $9 Million bucks.
Health Net ordered to pay $9 million after canceling cancer patient’s policy.

www.ravinglunacy.org/index.php/2008/02/24/rescission-health-insurance-
and-universal-health-care/

It's always possible to find anecdotes about one thing or another. But if you want the REAL story... and I'm not sure that you do... you have to look at statistics like infant mortality, lifespan, disability etc. By all measures, "socialized" health care is better health care.

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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy

Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy

FIVVER

Tuesday, June 9, 2009 7:06 PM

Keep drinking your Koolaid Siggy:

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Overall, according to a study published in Lancet Oncology last year, five-year cancer survival rates are higher in the U.S. than those in Canada. Based on data from the Joint Canada/U.S. Survey of Health (done by Statistics Canada and the U.S. National Center for Health Statistics), Americans have greater access to preventive screening tests and have higher treatment rates for chronic illnesses. No wonder: To limit the growth in health spending, governments restrict the supply of health care by rationing it through waiting. The same survey data show, as June and Paul O'Neill note in a paper published in 2007 in the Forum for Health Economics & Policy, that the poor under socialized medicine seem to be less healthy relative to the nonpoor than their American counterparts.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124451570546396929.html

Don't knock India:

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Doctors say they are moving to India because of its economy, state of the art equipment, higher standards than the NHS and a better quality of life. In particular, they say hospitals in India, which many Britons still imagine to be impoverished and dirty, suffer less from hospital-acquired infections such as MRSA.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article3056942.
ece

I'm constantly amazed by folks who are so greedy the that only thing they want out a health care system is for somebody else to pay for theirs.

JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, June 9, 2009 7:20 PM

Thanks for posting Signy! Your crazy spice always makes the stew more flavorable. MMmm Good!

CITIZEN

Tuesday, June 9, 2009 7:20 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Citizen is now PN in training, cukoo as an Arcturian dogbird.

Jongstraw confirms I'm right, and confirms he's not man enough to admit it

PEACEKEEPER

Tuesday, June 9, 2009 7:21 PM

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Yes, socialized medicine is the best system. After all, don't people with money always fly to Europe to get the best care from the top doctors and surgeons? Ooops, that's America they go to, with its' antiquated private medical care system....sorry, never mind.

Well sure, if you live in the American far rights imagination, for everyone else in the real world that's still no where near the truth.

Liam Neeson rushed his dying wife to NYC from Canada. Johnny Depp rushed his sick daughter out of France back to America for treatment. People from all over the world go to the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota for the finest care. The examples are endless, but of course you live in a world of denial of reality. You must be just enomored with your British ducts. Ducts for everything. Ducts, ducts, and more ducts. British Parliamentarians rail against their broken and inferior socialized health system, and warn America to stay away from it. All the top professionals leave Europe and come to America. Some stay to fix your ducts of course. How's that Dental Plan workin' out there? Not too good from what I can see of the average Brit. Damn good whistlers though.

Every single person that you have mentioned has the possession of one important thing---MONEY, and shit loads of it.I would much rather be in a country whereby a pauper can have his life saved and be treated the same as the next man, than in a system where if you cant afford the fucking bed then you just die. And another thing, all of these people will naturally want to go back to America for their treatment because they will feel more comfortable at home. And as for our teeth, mine are fine, thank you.Us Brits of course are slightly less fussed about our superficial appearances.And I think you are proving to be somewhat superficial.!!

CITIZEN

Tuesday, June 9, 2009 7:22 PM

One wonders why so many people come from India to the UK for treatment then.

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Originally posted by fivver:
I'm constantly amazed by folks who are so greedy the that only thing they want out a health care system is for somebody else to pay for theirs.

I'm constantly amazed by folks who are so selfish that the only thing they want out of a health care system is the death of poor people.

And they say Eugenics is dead...

JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, June 9, 2009 7:23 PM

Right about what retard? That yer a nasty idiot? Yes I'm right. I admit it!

CITIZEN

Tuesday, June 9, 2009 7:29 PM

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Right about what retard? That yer a nasty idiot? Yes I'm right. I admit it! Now you can go piss off. Sorry Auraptor aint here to give you what you want and need.

It's amazing Jong, that you scream and shout and spit about how I'm this and that, provide no evidence to back your crazy troll claims, but actually prove them of yourself. Well, actually what's amazing is that you're not intelligent enough to realise you're doing it...

You prove me right every time you throw an immature temper tantrum because you can't get your own way.

I get it, you're such an authoritarian nut you need to silence all dissenting opinions, preferably with violence, I'm sorry but screaming like an ignorant brainless troll doesn't make up for your inability to make a logical argument, or think for yourself.

JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, June 9, 2009 7:30 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
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Originally posted by citizen:
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Yes, socialized medicine is the best system. After all, don't people with money always fly to Europe to get the best care from the top doctors and surgeons? Ooops, that's America they go to, with its' antiquated private medical care system....sorry, never mind.

Well sure, if you live in the American far rights imagination, for everyone else in the real world that's still no where near the truth.

Liam Neeson rushed his dying wife to NYC from Canada. Johnny Depp rushed his sick daughter out of France back to America for treatment. People from all over the world go to the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota for the finest care. The examples are endless, but of course you live in a world of denial of reality. You must be just enomored with your British ducts. Ducts for everything. Ducts, ducts, and more ducts. British Parliamentarians rail against their broken and inferior socialized health system, and warn America to stay away from it. All the top professionals leave Europe and come to America. Some stay to fix your ducts of course. How's that Dental Plan workin' out there? Not too good from what I can see of the average Brit. Damn good whistlers though.
Every single person that you have mentioned has the possession of one important thing---MONEY, and shit loads of it.I would much rather be in a country whereby a pauper can have his life saved and be treated the same as the next man, than in a system where if you cant afford the fucking bed then you just die. And another thing, all of these people will naturally want to go back to America for their treatment because they will feel more comfortable at home. And as for our teeth, mine are fine, thank you.Us Brits of course are slightly less fussed about our superficial appearances.And I think you are proving to be somewhat superficial.!!

C'mon, give me a big smile and let me see those chompers! I'm sure you look mahvelous dearie. Post a pic for humanity.

JONGSSTRAW

Tuesday, June 9, 2009 7:32 PM

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Right about what retard? That yer a nasty idiot? Yes I'm right. I admit it! Now you can go piss off. Sorry Auraptor aint here to give you what you want and need.

It's amazing Jong, that you scream and shout and spit about how I'm this and that, provide no evidence to back your crazy troll claims, but actually prove them of yourself.

You prove me right every time you throw an immature temper tantrum because you can't get your own way.

I get it, you're such an authoritarian nut you need to silence all dissenting opinions, preferably with violence, I'm sorry but screaming like an ignorant brainless troll doesn't make up for your inability to make a logical argument, or think for yourself.

Ha Ha Ha! You Brits and your funny ways! LOL!

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