Voters steer Europe to the right
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Yes, socialized medicine is the best system. After all, don't people with money always fly to Europe to get the best care from the top doctors and surgeons? Ooops, that's America they go to, with its' antiquated private medical care system....sorry, never mind.
Well sure, if you live in the American far rights imagination, for everyone else in the real world that's still no where near the truth.
Liam Neeson rushed his dying wife to NYC from Canada. Johnny Depp rushed his sick daughter out of France back to America for treatment. People from all over the world go to the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota for the finest care. The examples are endless, but of course you live in a world of denial of reality. You must be just enomored with your British ducts. Ducts for everything. Ducts, ducts, and more ducts. British Parliamentarians rail against their broken and inferior socialized health system, and warn America to stay away from it. All the top professionals leave Europe and come to America. Some stay to fix your ducts of course. How's that Dental Plan workin' out there? Not too good from what I can see of the average Brit. Damn good whistlers though.
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Only a pathetic, grumpy ostrich like you could make that statement.
It's funny how when people lose the argument they start becoming personally insulting.
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The examples are endless, but of course you live in a world of denial of reality.
Ahh, the rubber-glue defence.
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British Parliamentarians rail against their broken and inferior socialized health system, and warn America to stay away from it.
Talking of denial and delusion, Jong you've got both in spades.
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Liam Neeson rushed his dying wife to NYC from Canada. Johnny Depp rushed his sick daughter out of France back to America for treatment.
Because some people don't get it the first time around:
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Originally posted by citizen:
A single anecdote disputes that Public healthcare systems far outperform private only? Nope.
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You must be just enomored with your British ducts. Ducts for everything. Ducts, ducts, and more ducts.
You must be too enamoured with your American softly softly eugenics. Poor, racial minority? Then Jongs wants you to die.
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How's that Dental Plan workin' out there? Not too good from what I can see of the average Brit.
Hows the mental health service over there? Clearly not very good since instead of giving those poor people treatment, they keep coming and posting here...
The 'superior' US healthcare system at work:
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Everyone "in the know" knows that if they, or a loved one, gets diagnosed with Cancer, that it's time to get their Passport out of the safety deposit box, and start checking with those who keep track, to find out just exactly where to go, right now, for the best Cancer cure. For, if you stay in the US, and take the conventional variety of Cancer treatment, your chances of survival are slim to none.
The conventional US Cancer community is a murderous rip-off that generates shiploads of money. It provides the most horrible death imaginable, with the most suffering, the least hope, and the highest price paid. Europe, Asia, Mexico, the Islands, Central America all offer solutions that work.
In most of the US, all that's available of any real use is "underground," provided by practitioners under constant threat of law enforcement raid, for plying those things that work.
http://www.bolenreport.net/feature_articles/feature_article065.htm
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The United States healthcare system just received another failing grade. In a Commonwealth Fund study released Jan.8, researchers ranked the U.S. healthcare system as the worst among 19 industrialized countries.
The study considered preventable deaths due to treatable conditions before age 75. The number of deaths is affected directly by improvements in health care and living conditions. In the United States, the death rate is 109.7 deaths per 100,000 people. Preventable deaths accounted for 23 percent of all deaths for men and 32 percent for women. That is 101,000 deaths each year.
The fact that 47 million people in the United States are uninsured and the vast majority of the 250 million insured are underinsured is a crime. The U.S. ruling class does not care about providing affordable, adequate health care for workers. It only wants to make a profit the working-class’s expense.
http://www.inteldaily.com/?c=144&a=4835
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Citizen is now PN in training, cukoo as an Arcturian dogbird.
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Originally posted by citizen:Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Yes, socialized medicine is the best system. After all, don't people with money always fly to Europe to get the best care from the top doctors and surgeons? Ooops, that's America they go to, with its' antiquated private medical care system....sorry, never mind.
Well sure, if you live in the American far rights imagination, for everyone else in the real world that's still no where near the truth.
Liam Neeson rushed his dying wife to NYC from Canada. Johnny Depp rushed his sick daughter out of France back to America for treatment. People from all over the world go to the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota for the finest care. The examples are endless, but of course you live in a world of denial of reality. You must be just enomored with your British ducts. Ducts for everything. Ducts, ducts, and more ducts. British Parliamentarians rail against their broken and inferior socialized health system, and warn America to stay away from it. All the top professionals leave Europe and come to America. Some stay to fix your ducts of course. How's that Dental Plan workin' out there? Not too good from what I can see of the average Brit. Damn good whistlers though.
Your example are of people who can afford American healthcare, but as I understand it most people cannot....
" They don't hate America, they hate Americans " Homer Simpson
Lets party like its 1939
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If you get a good job, you get healthcare. You get a good job by studying in school. I went to Motor Vehicles yesterday to renew my driver's license....a throwback to the 1840's, a nightmare, a glimpse at Govt-run Healthcare, or Govt-run anything. You want to be part of the lowest common denominator? Fine....Not me. You get what you pay for in this world, unless you're a Communist. Then you get next to nothing, and are grateful to get even that.
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
If you get a good job, you get healthcare. You get a good job by studying in school. I went to Motor Vehicles yesterday to renew my driver's license....a throwback to the 1840's, a nightmare, a glimpse at Govt. run Healthcare, or Govt-run anything. You want to be part of the lowest common denominator? Fine....Not me. You get what you pay for in this world, unless you're a Communist. Then you get next to nothing, and are grateful to get even that.
Studying in school? What school? I *KNOW* you can't be talking about public school, because by all accounts from the right, public education is a failure and just doesn't work. Ergo, no one who ever got an education at a public school can ever by considered "educated", so can never be eligible for one of those vaunted "good jobs" you seem to think are so common. Also, if anyone DID get educated in a public school, they really should be more gracious and grateful for the benefits a socialized, government-run education system granted them.
You also mention the parliamentarians allegedly ranting about socialized medicine's ills as if that proves your point. If I can point to a US congressperson ranting about the ills of a privately-run for-profit healthcare system, will you accept it as proof that our system doesn't work and should never be used for anything?
I went to my doctor a couple months ago. I had an appointment, which means I had to wait more than a week from when I called to finally get in. I have insurance, so they KNOW they are going to get paid to see me. Still, once I got there on time for my appointment (which I'd made more than a week earlier, mind you), I still had to wait over an hour.
Funny thing... even with all its "1840s" technology, that's just never happened to me at the DMV. I've never had to make an apppointment weeks in advance of renewing my license, and I've never had to wait more than an hour to do so when I just show up and drop in unannounced.
How do you suppose they can pull that off, when my doctor can't, even though I'm paying over $6000.00 per year for my insurance?
Also, for all those congresspeople who DO rant about "socialized medicine", I wonder how many of them are willing to give up their socialized coverage (we the taxpayers are paying for it, or subsidizing over 75% of the cost of it, and it's top-notch coverage, you can be sure) and go out in the "free market" and pay for their own insurance out of their own pockets like they want all of us "little people" to do.
Mike
Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
"You're a idiot." -AuRaptor, RWED, May 27, 2009.
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In Cuba you get a free can of Russian-packed octopus when your lottery number comes up to see a doctor. Hope you like octopus.
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Also, Jongs, you claim that people from all over the world are pouring into the US for healthcare. It's kinda funny, because people from all over the U.S. are pouring into India for AFFORDABLE healthcare, because they can't afford the procedures their "insurance" won't pay for here, but they can get better care for about 20% of the cost if they go to India for it.
Mike
Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
"You're a idiot." -AuRaptor, RWED, May 27, 2009.
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
In Cuba you get a free can of Russian-packed octopus when your lottery number comes up to see a doctor. Hope you like octopus.
In America you don't even get that.
And in Soviet Union, octopus gets YOU.
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
In Cuba you get a free can of Russian-packed octopus when your lottery number comes up to see a doctor. Hope you like octopus.
In America you don't even get that.
And in Soviet Union, octopus gets YOU.
Wash is the funny one.
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