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Monday, March 23, 2009 5:46 PM
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:Are you saying we are forced to consider killing children?
Originally posted by AURaptor:
It should be upsetting as to who does the sentencing, the mother , or someone forced into that situation.
Operative much?
The laughing Chrisisall
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The topic this thread has taken, which has migrated from another thread, is despicable. We can agree on that.
At the heart of the issue, were t-shirts "some" Israeli MILITARY wore, or maybe they were just for SALE, not intended for the general public. Any military is going to have its own subculture, a part from the general population. ( A line which I think is attributed to a sniper school " You can run, but you'll just die tired " has no place in a civil society, but in context, is more understood and accepted in a military environment. So it is w/ these t-shirts. We'll never have to face what those in the military are trained to encounter , or at least it's hoped none of us will, so I don't know if those vast majority of civilians ever try to understand or take the time to see things from that view point.
We're to be reminded that the purposes of an army is to kill people and break things. As horrific and brutal as it sounds, that's what they do, and that's what those in the military have to come to terms with, every single day. If they DON'T, then they're liable to end up dead, as will their buddies and possibly a whole lot of folks that depend on them doing their job.
Anyway, that's the context of which I see the whole issue. Such messages , imo, are completely out of place in any civil society, and the mere fact so many get offended , I suppose , is a good sign.
If , however, some would take the time to see things from a different point of view, but still stay offended, we might understand ( though not approve ) a bit more.
I got nothing else to say on the matter. (except that citizen is still wrong. Very wrong )
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Monday, March 23, 2009 5:49 PM
Quote:Ditto-heads... those who act without any self-reflection whatsoever.... will say
Are you saying we are forced to consider killing children? Operative much?
BUT THAT'S DIFFERENT!
That includes Finn, Geezer, and rapo. It's their constant refrain. How they justify doing EXACTLY what their enemies do, and still claim moral high ground.
News-flash for you guys: Its NOT different. Killing is killing, torture is torture, whether in the name of Allah or freedom or capitalism or communism.
The only justification I can see for killing is self-defense or the immediate defense of others. Even then, action will be- SHOULD BE- judged by history as to whether more lives were saved than wasted. Anything else is just so much bullshit.
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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.
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Monday, March 23, 2009 5:56 PM
Quote:So, that's a yes then.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
We're to be reminded that the purposes of an army is to kill people and break things.
You are an Operative.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Monday, March 23, 2009 5:58 PM
Quote:Or busting a cap in every mother***ker's face that looks at you wrong to pre-empt a conflict.
Originally posted by SignyM:
The only justification I can see for killing is self-defense or the immediate defense of others.
You forgot that one.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Monday, March 23, 2009 6:06 PM
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:So, that's a yes then.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
We're to be reminded that the purposes of an army is to kill people and break things.
You are an Operative.
The laughing Chrisisall
Didn't fathom how much a Kucinich moon bat you were.
"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.
The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.
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Monday, March 23, 2009 6:07 PM
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
citizen,
Your completely edited, out of context quotes by me do nothing but serve to perpetuate the hatred you claim you want to fight against. This crying wolf on your part, accusing those innocent of hating for empty racist, nationalistic or religious reasons does such a disservice to the cause you're feigning to support.
Not edited in the slightest. The only editing was to remove your signature. You probably should have changed your original post before making this accusation, then it would have been my word against yours. Unfortunately you were so stupid you've left your words as is, while still trying to claim I edited them. (I suspect now is a bit late though).
Your crazed flailing reeks of the desperation of a Nazi whose mask has slipped, letting in the cold light of day. Which, predictably, is exactly what has happened.
AURaptor advocates child murder:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
When Pal women start dressing up their babies in suicide pampers, might be a good idea to go ahead and take care of both of them at once, before they have a chance to kill.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=37443#687361
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Monday, March 23, 2009 6:07 PM
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
kwickie, cowboys and indians?
Wow. I never took you to be that naive, but holy shit, that frankly is stunning in its stupidity and ignorance.
I got nothing to add, I'm so stunned.
"As much as I respect what he's doing, really the economy is something he should focus on more than the brackets. "
- Duke University basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski, after Obama snubbed Duke in his Final Four picks.
The U.S. economy WAS on fire under Bush, for 6 years. Until the Democrats took control of Congress. It's been all down hill since then.
Maybe you can explain it all to us, then. How is it different? How is a Palestinian kid playing at being a jihadi or freedom fighter radically different from American kids playing cowboys and indians? Did we *not* kill the Indians just because of their race, because they were "different"?
Or are you just too ignorant to see the parallels?
And your little bit about "the purposes of an army is to kill people" simply proves that you have no concept of what the REAL purpose of an army is. Look into the legalities of various types of rifle bullets, and talk to people who have actually been in the army, and you'll quickly realize that a soldier's REAL objective is to take ground and hold it, preferably by WOUNDING the enemy, not killing him. A wounded man takes two or more soldiers out of battle, because he has to be cared for, tended to, and transported. A dead man only removes one person from battle.
Didn't you ever wonder why rifle rounds like hollowpoints and "dum-dum" or "tumbler" rounds were outlawed in warfare? Because they are designed primarily to kill, while a full-metal-jacketed round is designed to go through, leaving a fairly horrific (but fairly clean) hole through a soldier, thus removing him from battle without necessarily killing him.
It harkens back to the days when war was seen as a bit of a gentleman's game.
Look it up.
Mike
A baby seal walks into a club...
The "On Fire" Economy -
The Dow closed at 10,587.60 on January 20, 2001, the day GW Bush took office. Eight years later, it closed below 8000 on the day he left office - a net loss of 25%. That's what conservatives call an economic "success".
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Monday, March 23, 2009 6:14 PM
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Didn't fathom
Sad, foolish, bipedal machine.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Monday, March 23, 2009 6:15 PM
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May I ask you as a direct question, then, whether the appearance you give (of proposing preventative genocide of a hate-filled society, infants and all) is congruent with your actual position or whether this is a misconception based on an unfortunate quote? I honestly can't place your position based on your reply.
AuCoward has never needed a valid reason to advocate the murder of Palestinians. Any reason to kill someone darker than him is a good reason, in his mind.
Mind you, he'll never sign up, never volunteer to DO any of the killing. His place is on the sidelines of history, being the happy cheerleader for thugs and murderers.
Mike
A baby seal walks into a club...
The "On Fire" Economy -
The Dow closed at 10,587.60 on January 20, 2001, the day GW Bush took office. Eight years later, it closed below 8000 on the day he left office - a net loss of 25%. That's what conservatives call an economic "success".
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