Western or Southern ?
POSTED BY: ELKA
UPDATED: Thursday, November 7, 2002 03:31
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Yes, you can, because i'm more yankee than you...so... 
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well
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Well, I now live in the only Northern state that had a major Civil War battle, and I just moved here from the Southernest of the Southern states (rural central Florida) earlier this year, and I grew up and have lived in three different parts of the most schizophrenic state (Missouri)... so...
When you look at the fact that the issue of slavery nearly prevented the 13 colonies from getting together in the first place... and the fact that slavery kept coming up in every Congressional session and every public debate for the first several decades... and the fact that the stress and strain over slavery was already tearing at the country so much by 1820 that they had to admit a new Northern state (Maine) and a new "Southern" state (Missouri, theoretically) at the same time as a compromise... and the Confederate Vice President's claim that the CSA was a nation founded on the principle that the Negro would never be equal to the white man... and the gaggle of quotes from prominent Northerners enraged by things like that... the conclusion that it was about slavery gets pretty hard no to reach. Even those who try to make it sound like it wasn't can't help but accidentally reveal that slavery was at the base of every other issue they say it was about anyway. A serious reporting of the history can't help but keep coming back to slavery over and over again. If they say it was about state's rights, the right in question was the right to enslave people. If they say it was about economy, the economy in question was a slave economy. If they say it was about culture and way of life, the culture and way of life in question were funded by a slave economy. I know that in life many things are more complicated than they first appear, but when you TRY to find a way around the obvious and it just keeps coming back and smacking you in the head, you gotta just go with it...
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Well, I think we all agree that slavery was a major issue in the war. I just think that we should also recognize that is was not the only reason. It was far more complicated than just slavery.
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alright, since Deathstalker is the ONLY person to get this:
THE POST IS SUPPOSED TO BE FUNNY. STOP TAKING IT SO SERIOUSLY ALEADY. LAUGH. It's wasn't ever SUPPOSED to be taken seriously. I mean, maybe a college graduate & a history grade student living in South Carolia, with our 'different text books and all' (because of course all writings on the subject, even the ones from Princeton, MUST have come from South Carolina) are the only ones to understand this, but Firefly...is sort of funny (shhh...don't tell anyone). So you'd think fans of the show would have more of a sense of humor but I guess all of you are from Canada or something (no offense to Canadians, I mean, I am not out to just biased bash the place a person lives, I wouldn't do that even if you guys don't have a problem with it). But this is getting out of hand....just a little bit. Even when I make ANOTHER post choke full of funny references, I get a bunch of posts filled with nitpicking little criticims and I'm told that I am the one taking things too serious...Anyway, anyone who can't go back, and read those posts I made, and realize that they are supposed to be amusing, can go to the ACLU or the NAACP chat room or something and argue about the Civil War some more (also, South Carolina was the ONLY state to participate in it...golly I didn't know that, thanks for telling me. It must be those different text books we have down here, and in New York, where I went to school). I think a few people got the humor, and if they didn't, they were still very polite and didn't get into mudslinging. Otherwise, how about everybody else lighten up?
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What mudslinging are you referring to?
In one of your posts, you asserted that The Civil War wasn't about slavery...was that supposed to be funny too? Many historians attack this viewpoint as propaganda propagated by leaders of the South in the hopes of rationalizing secession & romanticizing the war. Other historians disgaree. Nothing offensive or rude about it, if you ask me.
Really, I don't think you should assume ownership of the thread just because you started it. It took on a life of its own which I found pretty interesting.
BTW, sorry, I missed your attempt at humor in your original post. But, by asking us to continue this thread in the ACLU or NAACP chat room is downright rude. Oh right, that's another one of your attempts at humor. Missed again...
Actually, I kinda think that you are the one that needs to lighten up. I mean, what's wrong with discussing The Civil War? It gives some of us a chance to flex some brain muscle & show others how much we think we know.
Maybe you're offended by the fact that no one thinks you're funny?
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Originally posted by truk:
What mudslinging are you referring to?
Agreed. All I see is a discussion. Some serious, some not so. Everyone doesn't have to agree with you, Elka. If you don't want people to discuss what you post, what the heck are you doing at a board devoted to discussion in the first place?
If I were the originator of this thread, I would count myself lucky that people were interested enough in the topic to reply in the first place! Once you start them, threads have a tendency to take on a life of their own - it's just the way of things.
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That is the only point I was trying to make. Not that the civil war was not about slavery..it was an issue just not the ONLY issue.
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Maybe you're offended by the fact that no one thinks you're funny?
I think Elka has a dry sense of humor that not everyone get's..I find her funny..but that's just me.
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