Poll: When Crow goes through Serenity's engine...

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Thursday, March 5, 2009 18:50
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BYTEMITE

Monday, March 2, 2009 10:05 PM

That's a pretty admirable reason. Sad, but admirable.

Now, the people who DO know better? The people who send the soldiers who trust in them off to die, who design and sell super weapons to people with no respect for human life? The unethical experimenters? The torturers? Those who think they're doing what's best for the country, or the just plain sadistic money grubbing bastards?

Let 'em all rot in prison. The ends don't justify the means, as they say, and the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

CHRISISALL

Monday, March 2, 2009 10:08 PM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:

Let 'em all rot in prison.

Better idea: Let 'em fight for their country.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Monday, March 2, 2009 11:30 PM

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Originally posted by cozen:

Dollhouse needs a 'Crow through the engine moment', one that rivets the audience to Echo's special, uncompromising nature. Don't y'all agree?

I agree, and I'll bet we get it.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

NCBROWNCOAT

Tuesday, March 3, 2009 12:10 AM

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Originally posted by cozen:
Given what I (we) know about The Train Job being the second pilot, my take on Crow's demise is exactly equivalent to the moment where Reynolds, without hesitation, puts a bullet into Dobson's eye in order to bring about a fast solution to both River's being a captive and the more pressing need to get the boat in the air soonest, what with the Reaver ship bearing down on Reynold's crew. In TTJ, they needed to be flyin' before the locals changed their minds about letting Serenity's crew fly free, and before Nishka sent around backup mercenaries.

If the audience didn't understand that Mal is a man of action in the pilot Serenity, they surely figured it out when he gave Crow the boot in The Train Job.

I'm impressed that Whedon/Minear, given that they needed to give us this crucial character development, managed to portray it in such diverse contexts.

I'm even more impressed that they managed to create such a fine shock moment to describe an aspect of Reynold's character over just one weekend -- which, to my understanding, is the time frame given to write the second pilot.

Dollhouse needs a 'Crow through the engine moment', one that rivets the audience to Echo's special, uncompromising nature. Don't y'all agree?

I agree. The moment that got me was shooting Dobson, but Crow through the engine I had a second of shock (again?) and a nervous twitter. It convinced me that in this show Joss would be coming from left field more than once.

I do hate to say it but Dollhouse has been rather boring for me. I just can't get into it and it does need a "Crow through the engine" moment.

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FREELANCERTEX

Tuesday, March 3, 2009 1:02 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall: Do you cheer & hoot, or do your eyes widen in squirming awe?

I start laughing. XD first time i saw it i thought it was effing great :P laugh harder when they bring the next guy in and Mal starts saying the sme thing to him though

yeah, dollhouse needs a Crow moment.

PLATONIST

Tuesday, March 3, 2009 2:33 AM

I'm probably the most pacifistic Browncoat around, but Mal shooting Dobson and kicking Crow into the engine at least prompted me to evaluate the necessity of taking life in order to survive in a frontier culture. The moral ethical position is really left up to the viewer to decide. I like that. Joss said antihero, didn't he?

I've always wondered if Kaylee and Inara knew about Crow's fate and if it was discussed openly. For some reason I think Wash, Jayne, Book, and
Simon know, but not, like Zoe says, the women.

And I don't know what, but Dollhouse needs something. I've nodded off twice. It's putting me to sleep and my husband's not too happy about it because Friday Night is his lucky night and I don't mean at poker. And the DVR is full of Jonas Bros stuff from Disney. Did someone say Hula?

KWICKO

Tuesday, March 3, 2009 2:58 AM

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Originally posted by Platonist:

I'm probably the most pacifistic Browncoat around, but Mal shooting Dobson and kicking Crow into the engine at least prompted me to evaluate the necessity of taking life in order to survive in a frontier culture. The moral ethical position is really left up to the viewer to decide. I like that. Joss said antihero, didn't he?

I've always wondered if Kaylee and Inara knew about Crow's fate and if it was discussed openly. For some reason I think Wash, Jayne, Book, and
Simon know, but not, like Zoe says, the women.

And I don't know what, but Dollhouse needs something. I've nodded off twice. It's putting me to sleep and my husband's not too happy about it because Friday Night is his lucky night and I don't mean at poker. And the DVR is full of Jonas Bros stuff from Disney. Did someone say Hula?

Couple things.

1) Can you have a chat with my wife? ;)

2) You kick anything through one of Kaylee's engines, and she's gorram-sure gonna know about it. Better just up 'n' tell her about it up front; no use tryin' to hide it.

3) Not HuLA, HuLU. hulu.com. Check 'em out. Lots of show, very few commercials (and the ones they do have are really, really short). I relied on Hulu when Time Warner pulled NBC's signal off our cable last year. It was the only way I was able to keep up with Chuck, Heroes, Life, 30Rock, The Office, etc.

Mike

If you're going to assume anything, assume you're wrong.

BYTEMITE

Tuesday, March 3, 2009 3:09 AM

Maybe Mal managed to pass it off as a bird... Though just IMAGINE the inundation of Kaylee-tears over that.

PLATONIST

Tuesday, March 3, 2009 4:45 AM

Wash’s explanation; a Pterodactyl came straight at us:)

Kaylee must have been madder than hell when she had to clean that up.

Kwicko, hang in there, hope for the best, find a hobby.

SHINYGOODGUY

Tuesday, March 3, 2009 9:20 AM

I have never seen that in any TV show, it was a WTF moment. Shock.....beat.......Holy shite......
laugh.

It's like watching someone slip on a banana peel,
of course they fall down into an abyss. You get the picture. Made me want to watch more FF.

SGG

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