Poll: When Crow goes through Serenity's engine...

POSTED BY: chrisisall
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CHRISISALL

Monday, March 2, 2009 8:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by asarian:

To me, Crow was just loud-mouthing. Big guy on his knees, his ego just couldn't handle that. But that doesn't necessarily constitute a credible threat.

Bad call, A. Best to take a man at his word, especially after he's just planted a weapon into ya.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

PIZMOBEACH

Monday, March 2, 2009 9:03 PM

Mal was just establishing his reputation.

"Do you know what a reputation is?
It's people talking, gossip, it's
not... to hold, touch it, you
can't. Now I also have reputation, not so
pleasant, I think you know. Crow.

You see this man, he does not do the job.
I show you what I do with him and now, my
reputation for you is fact, is... solid."

ZEEK

Monday, March 2, 2009 9:10 PM

I laughed a lot when Crow got kicked into the engine and went "now this show might be alright". It was a good moment.

Also, I think Mal would have killed Niska easily. He just didn't have a chance. Once Niska got away they probably took Mal and got the heck out. I'm sure they didn't kill everybody on the space station. So, they were still in danger.

BYTEMITE

Monday, March 2, 2009 9:10 PM

I've seen it. That's not to say I agree with the assertion that everyone working under the Galactic Empire knew what their superiors were all about. You'd think they'd have gotten a clue when Palpatine suspended the Senate, but I guess they've never heard of Rome in a galaxy far, far away. And people can be stupid about their government, especially if the government is careful about not teaching anyone to question their lines. Propaganda and politics are powerful tools, hooks that most people swallow without a second thought. It's all about control.

In the specific case of workers contracted for the Death Star, okay. They probably had some engineers on board and could have figured out they were building a super-powered planet destroying weapon. There's really no good reason for anyone to wield that kind of firepower. And the storm troopers STATIONED on the Death Star could probably figure out it's more than a space station too.

But some storm trooper stationed on a Star Destroyer patrolling the busy busy space lanes of nowhere, called to an equally nowhere moon for some sort of fugitive intercept mission? They wouldn't have a clue.

Remember, Han Solo was a storm trooper until he got kicked out for saving Chewbacca from slavery. And Tycho Celchu was an Imperial Pilot, until Alderaan was destroyed and he put two and two together.

CHRISISALL

Monday, March 2, 2009 9:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bytemite:

Remember, Han Solo was a storm trooper until he got kicked out for saving Chewbacca from slavery.

That's news to me.

B, governments are evil, and the bigger the government, the bigger the evil. It has always been so. Show me a happy Alliance soldier, and I'll show you either a lucky peep never put in a bad position, or a stupid idiot.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Monday, March 2, 2009 9:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:
I think Mal would have killed Niska easily. He just didn't have a chance. Once Niska got away they probably took Mal and got the heck out. I'm sure they didn't kill everybody on the space station. So, they were still in danger.

Zactly.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

BYTEMITE

Monday, March 2, 2009 9:33 PM

Definitely. Big governments are scary, and not to be trusted.

But look at US soldiers. Nothing against them, but they tend to think the US government is awesome, infallible, always right, never abuses it's power, etc. etc. They have absolute faith in whatever mission they're given. They're proud in their country, proud of themselves, and proud of their service.

Not to say I don't think some good has come of US soldiers, but I think that mindset is a little naive.

It's also VERY common.

Why would Alliance soldiers be any different, or know any better?

These aren't bad people. They've just been blinded by spindoctors and history books. Or, sometimes, shiny guns, the "glory of battle," and testosterone.

CHRISISALL

Monday, March 2, 2009 9:39 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bytemite:
they tend to think the US government is awesome, infallible, always right, never abuses it's power, etc. etc. They have absolute faith in whatever mission they're given.

That's a rather broad generalization I can dispel with a few quotes from peeps I know who were in Iraq.

There were lots who just tried to do their best despite realizing that Iraq was a pet project as opposed to an absolute necessity.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

BYTEMITE

Monday, March 2, 2009 9:45 PM

Well, sure, once you get there and it's obvious it's one big underplanned screw-up, you change your mind a bit. But what did they think BEFORE they went?

If they were against going into Iraq, colour me impressed. Again, nothing against them, I'm just saying the average soldier, just like the average citizen, doesn't really question their government.

Perhaps the average soldier even more-so, because of the looming threat of a court-martial if they snoop too much.

And I can say definitely that those opposed to going into Iraq from the beginning were the exception, not the rule.

CHRISISALL

Monday, March 2, 2009 9:51 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bytemite:
Well, sure, once you get there and it's obvious it's one big underplanned fuck-up, you change your mind a bit. But what did they think BEFORE they went?

One I knew said it was a tactical waste, but said he was going to mainly watch his friends backs.

Quote:
I'm just saying the average soldier, just like the average citizen, doesn't really question their government.

I see what you're saying here.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

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