Obama's picks: 3 quitters, 3 tax cheats and 2 more conflict of interest.
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Story , YOU prove it.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
Fuck that. I never claimed to have proof. You did.
Put up or shut up, bitch.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
Fuck you, cunt face. YOU PROVE IT, OR SHUT HELL UP.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
You blitering idiot, I have nothing to prove, because I made no claims. You, on the other hand, did. And claimed you could prove it. And when asked to, your response is "shut the fuck up"?
Pretty clear your proof is non-existant, chump.
Oh, and thanks for the "cunt-face" comment. You only bust out with the heavy-duty name calling when you're really desperate.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Pop quiz.
How many Impeachments have been assigned to sitting U.S. Presidents? Three.
How many U.S. Presidents have been Impeached? Two.
How many U.S. Presidential Impeachments have occurred after the American Centenial? Only 2.
How many U. S. Presidents have been Impeached after the American Centenial? Only one.
How many U.S. Presidential Impeachments have been for sex? None.
How many U.S. Presidiential Impeachments have been for Perjury? Two, both for Slick.
The other Impeachent was a very important milestone in our Republic, setting important precedent.Quote:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Clinton's lies weren't about sex, they were about perjury.
God, you just can't stop reaching, no matter how stupid it makes you look.
The lies were about sex, that WAS the perjury. He didn't lie about perjury, you halfwit.
Trying to make a point are we?
Trying to imply Slick was not Impeached for Perjury? Trying to get sheeple to infer Clinton's Impeachments were for petty sex?
Sorry, you failed.
And just so folk won't get confused: Perjury is lying under Oath. Not lying to the press, or lying to other politicians, or having sex, or screwing the People, or revealing inconvenient truths. It's Lying under Oath.
Aw, it's cute to see you rush in to protect ol' AURhetoric, but you need to brush up on your reading skills, because I didn't say any of the stuff you're implying I did. I implied nothing at all, just corrected dipshit on a factual error (one of them things he's wholly incapable of recognizing in his own writing).
Actually, the only point I was trying to make was that Rappy was talking out his ass.
See, I know what perjury is. I'm not saying Clinton didn't perjur himself.
But Rappy said Clinton lied about perjury, not sex. Which is, quite simply, factually wrong. He lied about sex, which ammounted to perjury.
But thinks for trying.
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Posted by a brilliant dude over at Serenitymovie.org:Quote:
Where was the Right-wing outrage when Dubya apppointed John Negroponte...
A tax infraction seems like small spuds by comparison.
So you've reversed yourself on the "Gitmo is worse than suicide bombers, mass killings, and headchoppings 'cause we're supposed to be better" mantra, and decided to embrace the "It's all right because someone else, sometime else, did something worse" idea (when you're defending your side, anyway).
Situational ethics, indeed.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Originally posted by Storymark:
But Rappy said Clinton lied about perjury, not sex. Which is, quite simply, factually wrong. He lied about sex, which amounted to perjury.
Story, just let them check this out:
http://www.rhlschool.com/reading.htm
The laughing Chrisisall
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Where was the Right-wing outrage when Dubya apppointed John Negroponte...
A tax infraction seems like small spuds by comparison.
So you've reversed yourself on the "Gitmo is worse than suicide bombers, mass killings, and headchoppings 'cause we're supposed to be better" mantra, and decided to embrace the "It's all right because someone else, sometime else, did something worse" idea (when you're defending your side, anyway).
Situational ethics, indeed.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
Oh, see, that's where you are so very wrong. We're not excusing the behavior or crimes of the Dems who are in trouble. I don't want Tax cheats on the cabinet. I'd like you to point out where we've been defending them, if you can.
What we ARE doing, is pointing out the hipocracy on the right - where was your outrage when Bush was doing this? THAT is our point.
It's funny that youn all keep missing that.
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Quote:Eff your righteous indignation, my man. There is a HUGE ethical difference between assisting in murder & stealing money by avoiding the tax man.
Originally posted by Geezer:
Situational ethics, indeed.
And to your strawman, I never said Gitmo was worse.
I'm right, you're wrong, sorry, try again, you lose, again. (tm) AURhetoric Responses, LTD.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Obama has 3 choices quit on him,tax cheaters and somehow this has something to do w/ Reagan, Bush and Cheney ??
Nope, a point was brought up about impeachment, lying under oath, et cetera. I thought maybe you could follow it, but I must have overestimated your intelligence level. I forgot you're a backwoods dipshit white trash redneck.
Mike
"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."
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But I have this crazy notion that folks who are smart enough to understand FIREFLY would have sense enough to take it upon themselves to have reasoned, honest and rational discussions...
This from someone who referred to conservative authoritarian lapdogs as "real Americans". How very Alliance of you. Spoken like a true white trash dipshit.
Mike
"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."
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Pretty clear your proof is non-existant, chump.
Tell yourself that into the mirror, because your point is non existant. Moron.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Obama has 3 choices quit on him,tax cheaters and somehow this has something to do w/ Reagan, Bush and Cheney ??
Nope, a point was brought up about impeachment, lying under oath, et cetera. I thought maybe you could follow it, but I must have overestimated your intelligence level. I forgot you're a backwoods dipshit white trash redneck.
Mike
You're just desperate and a fucking loser. And it shows. Clinton was rightfully impeached for lying in a civil case against him, breaking the very god damn law HE SIGNED into effect. Nixon resigned for much, MUCH less. And you want to bring up other irrelevant issues? No wonder. Barry the Emaculate hasn't panned out to be half the messiah he was built up to be. And it has you bitter, angry and realizing what a utter waste the next 4 years are gonig to be.
Sucks to be you. Moron.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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But I have this crazy notion that folks who are smart enough to understand FIREFLY would have sense enough to take it upon themselves to have reasoned, honest and rational discussions...
This from someone who referred to conservative authoritarian lapdogs as "real Americans". How very Alliance of you. Spoken like a true white trash dipshit.
Mike
"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."
Again, you lie, per usual, about what I said. Must suck for you to go through life being such a compulsive liar. Do you face every situation with such delusion and denial ?
I couldn't really care. I think it's sad.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Quote:LOL, oh really?
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Nixon resigned for much, MUCH less.
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Investigations conducted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and later by the Senate Watergate Committee, House Judiciary Committee and the press revealed that this burglary was one of many illegal activities authorized and carried out by Nixon's staff. They also revealed the immense scope of crimes and abuses, which included campaign fraud, political espionage and sabotage, illegal break-ins, improper tax audits, illegal wiretapping on a massive scale, and a secret slush fund laundered in Mexico to pay those who conducted these operations. This secret fund was also used as hush money to buy the silence of the seven men who were indicted for the June 17 break-in.
Nixon and his staff conspired to cover up the break-in as early as six days after it occurred
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watergate_scandal
Question: Did you actually KNOW what he was empeached for, or were you just guessing?
The laughing Chrisisall
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Quote:LOL. You replied to me, I have the quote, you said Conservative Authoritarian Lapdogs were "real Americans."
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Again, you lie, per usual, about what I said.
There's really no choice here, it's on record, dumass.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Originally posted by Storymark:
Pretty clear your proof is non-existant, chump.
Tell yourself that into the mirror, because your point is non existant. Moron.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
I never presented one, you fuckin' idiot. I never made a claim - YOU DID!
Jeez, what are you on that you can't grasp this?
Of course I have no proof, because I have nothing to prove, and made no claims that I did.
YOU, on the other hand, DID. And yet, all you can do when asked for the proof you claimed to have, is insist I provide proof I never claimed to have for a point I never tried to make.
So, let's make this real clear - YOU made a statement, YOU said you have proof, and YOU do not have the courage to either produce it, or admit you're full of shit.
You said you could prove it - so do it you cowardly little chickenshit.
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Clinton was rightfully impeached for lying in a civil case against him, breaking the very god damn law HE SIGNED into effect.
Well, at least this time 'round you got that part right.
not that that gave you the balls to admit you were wrong before, but that's no surprise.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:LOL. You replied to me, I have the quote, you said Conservative Authoritarian Lapdogs were "real Americans."
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Again, you lie, per usual, about what I said.
There's really no choice here, it's on record, dumass.
The laughing Chrisisall
You forget, AURhetoric is impervious to reality. To him, only his imagination is tangible.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:LOL. You replied to me, I have the quote, you said Conservative Authoritarian Lapdogs were "real Americans."
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Again, you lie, per usual, about what I said.
There's really no choice here, it's on record, dumass.
The laughing Chrisisall
Liar. I said they were REAL AMERICANS, and the meaning was clear. You're intentionally misrepresenting what I said because -
You're a dick head
You're a loser
You can't deal w/ the truth
You're a dick head.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Originally posted by Storymark:
Oh, see, that's where you are so very wrong. We're not excusing the behavior or crimes of the Dems who are in trouble. I don't want Tax cheats on the cabinet. I'd like you to point out where we've been defending them, if you can.
Umm.
"A tax infraction seems like small spuds by comparison."
"There is a HUGE ethical difference between assisting in murder & stealing money by avoiding the tax man."
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What we ARE doing, is pointing out the hipocracy on the right - where was your outrage when Bush was doing this? THAT is our point.
It's funny that youn all keep missing that.
"On April 19, 2004, Negroponte was nominated by U.S. President George W. Bush to be the United States Ambassador to Iraq after the 30 June handover of sovereignty. He was confirmed by the United States Senate on May 6, 2004, by a vote of 95 to 3...
On February 17, 2005, President George W. Bush named Negroponte as the first Director of National Intelligence,... On April 21, 2005, Negroponte was confirmed by a vote of 98 to 2 in the Senate..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Negroponte
Seems that a lot of Democratic Senators didn't have any outrage against Negroponte either.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Originally posted by Geezer:Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:
Oh, see, that's where you are so very wrong. We're not excusing the behavior or crimes of the Dems who are in trouble. I don't want Tax cheats on the cabinet. I'd like you to point out where we've been defending them, if you can.
Umm.
"A tax infraction seems like small spuds by comparison."
"There is a HUGE ethical difference between assisting in murder & stealing money by avoiding the tax man."Quote:
What we ARE doing, is pointing out the hipocracy on the right - where was your outrage when Bush was doing this? THAT is our point.
It's funny that youn all keep missing that.
"On April 19, 2004, Negroponte was nominated by U.S. President George W. Bush to be the United States Ambassador to Iraq after the 30 June handover of sovereignty. He was confirmed by the United States Senate on May 6, 2004, by a vote of 95 to 3...
On February 17, 2005, President George W. Bush named Negroponte as the first Director of National Intelligence,... On April 21, 2005, Negroponte was confirmed by a vote of 98 to 2 in the Senate..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Negroponte
Seems that a lot of Democratic Senators didn't have any outrage against Negroponte either.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
Which doesn't answer the question in the least, coward.
Pointing out that some crimes are greater than others does not excuse the lesser one. Nor does deflecting to the Dems explain why the Reps gave their rubber stamp.
Nice try at a diversion, though.
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To be sure, this AURaptorbot is persistent, despite its inferior programming. Sadly, its been many moons since its entertainment value dissipated into sheer irrelevance. I miss the Finbot, cuz at least it starts out with intriguing historical contexts -- generally centred upon the Roman Empire -- before it implodes.
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Originally posted by Storymark:
You forget, AURhetoric is impervious to reality. To him, only his imagination is tangible.
No, YOU forget that I'm the one having to deal w/ a bunch of childish assholes who try to vilify anyone who disagrees with them. Like calling anyone who supports marriage as 1 man and 1 woman to being HOMOPHOBES and Hates.
The Left routinely plays this game where they redefine every damn thing to suit their needs, so they can spin their lies and distort the issues.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Some Adult
Whatever
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To be sure, this AURaptorbot is persistent, despite its inferior programming. Sadly, its been many moons since its entertainment value dissipated into sheer irrelevance. I miss the Finbot, cuz at least it starts out with intriguing historical contexts -- generally centred upon the Roman Empire -- before it implodes.
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cozenbot, also inferior tech
Never was here for your entertainment, honey.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Originally posted by Storymark:
You forget, AURhetoric is impervious to reality. To him, only his imagination is tangible.
No, YOU forget that I'm the one having to deal w/ a bunch of childish assholes who try to vilify anyone who disagrees with them. Like calling anyone who supports marriage as 1 man and 1 woman to being HOMOPHOBES and Hates.
The Left routinely plays this game where they redefine every damn thing to suit their needs, so they can spin their lies and distort the issues.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
You know you've lost the current discussion, so let's just shift it to something else. You are consistant, I will give you that.
Where's that proof, again?
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
There is a HUGE ethical difference between assisting in murder & stealing money by avoiding the tax man.
I missed the part where Mr. Negroponte was convicted of, or admitted to, assisting in murder. Maybe you could provide a cite.
Even if true, does that mean that you think Sen. Daschele or Secty. Geithner should forgiven their admitted failure to report income and pay taxes?
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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I won, but I'm dealing w/ a bunch of 5 yr olds who haven't a clue.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Originally posted by Storymark:
Which doesn't answer the question in the least...
Actually, I paid little attention to the Negroponte nomination, and I'd have to do a lot of research, not just take your word, before I decided to be outraged or not.
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Pointing out that some crimes are greater than others does not excuse the lesser one.
But that's what Chris was doing, saying Daschele and Geithner's tax problems were as nothing to allegations against Negroponte.
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Nor does deflecting to the Dems explain why the Reps gave their rubber stamp.
But it does make you wonder why the folks you'd figure would oppose his nominations, if he was such a criminal, didn't.
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Nice try at a diversion, though.
In a thread about Obama's Cabinet picks folks bring up bombing Pakistan, previous administrations, and John Negroponte, and I'm trying diversions? Please.
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Originally posted by Storymark:
Where's that proof, again?
Proof for something I never claimed in the first place ? Dude, you've really fucked in the head. You routinely ( as in constantly, all the time, never yielding ) screw up what I'm saying, falsify and twist my words, then attack me for something I never said, never implied, or never suggested, and then you hound me to come clean on some b.s. YOU dreamed up.
Kindly go fuck yourself and die, asshole.
"magic negro " is a name the LEFT came up for Obama. No one on the Right called him that until the Left did first.
It's stuff like that which is why you morons are constantly getting into fights, because you lie so damned often, you fabricate and bear false witness, so many times, you not only believe your lies, but you con others to buy into the lies as well.
There's no emoticon for how truly miserable you folks are.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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No one knows this sentence is here.
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I've lost track of whose on which side.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I won, but I'm dealing w/ a bunch of 5 yr olds who haven't a clue.
So speaketh the 3 year old that doesn't even grasp how badly his ass has been handed to him.
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In liue of a double post, I'd just like to take this opprotunity to poke Rappy in the eye.
Still waiting for the proof you said you have, boy.
Or is it "proof" like that time you had "proof" that 95% of taxpayers didn't pay any tax (which was summarily shot down, and you scurried like a bitch saying you somehow were not wrong just because you number was made-up and the proof you claimed to have was imaginary - ya know, in case ya forgot).
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Originally posted by Storymark:
Which doesn't answer the question in the least...Quote:
Actually, I paid little attention to the Negroponte nomination, and I'd have to do a lot of research, not just take your word, before I decided to be outraged or not.
But you wont.Quote:
Pointing out that some crimes are greater than others does not excuse the lesser one.Quote:
But that's what Chris was doing, saying Daschele and Geithner's tax problems were as nothing to allegations against Negroponte.
No, that's want to want to think he was saying, because your point doesn't hold up otherwise. He said NOTHING excuseing them, just that murder is several degrees worse than tax evasion. That still does not excuse the Tax issue - period.Quote:
Nor does deflecting to the Dems explain why the Reps gave their rubber stamp.Quote:
But it does make you wonder why the folks you'd figure would oppose his nominations, if he was such a criminal, didn't.
Not really, since they all rolled over for anything Dubya tried.Quote:
Nice try at a diversion, though.Quote:
In a thread about Obama's Cabinet picks folks bring up bombing Pakistan, previous administrations, and John Negroponte, and I'm trying diversions? Please.
Threads evolve, as you well know. You made claims, and when asked to support them, you shifted the subject. Yeah, that's a dodge. Don't be such a chickenshit.
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In liue of a double post, I'd just like to take this opprotunity to poke Rappy in the eye.
Still waiting for the proof you said you have, boy.
Or is it "proof" like that time you had "proof" that 95% of taxpayers didn't pay any tax (which was summarily shot down, and you scurried like a bitch saying you somehow were not wrong just because you number was made-up and the proof you claimed to have was imaginary - ya know, in case ya forgot).
Still waiting for your proof, moron. You have none? Fine, shut the fuck up.
Obama said 95% of Americans will get a income tax cut. 95% of Americans don't even PAY taxes. That's an accurate statement. Only some 60% of Americans pay taxes.
I was right. Obama lied, and yet you're attacking me?
Wow. That's funny.
Now, off with the you going to fuck yourself.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Originally posted by Storymark:
Where's that proof, again?
Proof for something I never claimed in the first place ? Dude, you've really fucked in the head. You routinely ( as in constantly, all the time, never yielding ) screw up what I'm saying, falsify and twist my words, then attack me for something I never said, never implied, or never suggested, and then you hound me to come clean on some b.s. YOU dreamed up.
You called bullshit on something Rue said, and said you could prove it. Sorry if your own words are too hard for you to live up to.
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Kindly go fuck yourself and die, asshole.
Right back atcha.
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"magic negro " is a name the LEFT came up for Obama. No one on the Right called him that until the Left did first.
I know that's what your big Poppa claims, and even if it's true, one or two people on the left (maybe) saying it isn't quite the same as ambracing it in the way the right has. Espeially your sugar daddy Rush, who recently used the term over 30 times in a single broadcast.
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It's stuff like that which is why you morons are constantly getting into fights, because you lie so damned often, you fabricate and bear false witness, so many times, you not only believe your lies, but you con others to buy into the lies as well.
Gee, you said something about talking to a mirror, earlier. Might want look into that.
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There's no emoticon for how truly miserable you folks are.
Then I can't imagine there are words in the english language that would sufficiently describe how truely pathetic you are.
Have a nice day.
And please, stop making this so easy.
Or not.
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Still too scared to face the music on that Magic Negro corner you painted yourself into, huh jackass?
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I know that's what your big Poppa claims, and even if it's true, one or two people on the left (maybe) saying it isn't quite the same as ambracing it in the way the right has.
Oh, screw the facts, huh? I only GAVE YOU a link to the aritlce, who said it, when.
Sucks to be you, in oh so many ways.
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But you wont.
Probably not now, since that administration is out of office.
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He said NOTHING excuseing them, just that murder is several degrees worse than tax evasion. That still does not excuse the Tax issue - period.
But it tries to make it trivial, not worth discussing, or foregoing a cabinet nomination for. Why else bring it up? Actually, Chris (who I was responding to) has never said anything about the tax issue being bad enough to derail nominations. You channeling Chris now?
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Not really, since they all rolled over for anything Dubya tried.
Not my fault, or problem.
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You made claims, and when asked to support them, you shifted the subject.
Huh? What claims? That Chris had changed his song? Shouldn't Chris respond to that?
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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In liue of a double post, I'd just like to take this opprotunity to poke Rappy in the eye.
Still waiting for the proof you said you have, boy.
Or is it "proof" like that time you had "proof" that 95% of taxpayers didn't pay any tax (which was summarily shot down, and you scurried like a bitch saying you somehow were not wrong just because you number was made-up and the proof you claimed to have was imaginary - ya know, in case ya forgot).
Still waiting for your proof, moron. You have none? Fine, shut the fuck up.
Proof of what? Jesus kid, how slow are you. I never made a claim, never said I had proof of anything, and have pointed out said fact many times. What are you going on about? What would you like proof for? You're the one who said you could prove shit, not me.
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Obama said 95% of Americans will get a income tax cut. 95% of Americans don't even PAY taxes. That's an accurate statement. Only some 60% of Americans pay taxes.
Ah, and now you quirm again, changing meaning. First, you had proof, then you said you made a mistake in the numbers but were still "right", now we're back to the numbers being accurate? Which is it now? We're not talkin' Obama, we're talkin about you, lest you get confused again.
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stop changing the subject. Amdit you were wrong about the magic negro.
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You know what ? Fuck this. I don't care. Everyone knows you're wrong, even if you're not man enough to admit it. So fucking what. You're a miserable piece of shit who clings to his hatred of all those who don't think EXACTLY like you.
Wallow in your own filth, you shit for brains loser.
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But you wont.
Probably not now, since that administration is out of office.
Didn't look into at the time, nor in the intervening years, and don't care now. And this is supposed to convince us you don't have a double-standard, giving a Rightie Admin a pass? Riiiight.
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He said NOTHING excuseing them, just that murder is several degrees worse than tax evasion. That still does not excuse the Tax issue - period.
But it tries to make it trivial, not worth discussing, or foregoing a cabinet nomination for. Why else bring it up? Actually, Chris (who I was responding to) has never said anything about the tax issue being bad enough to derail nominations. You channeling Chris now?
So you're deciding his stance on what he didn't say? yeah, that makes sense.
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Not really, since they all rolled over for anything Dubya tried.
Not my fault, or problem.
.....nor did I say it was. I answered your question.
What conversation are you having, anyway?
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You made claims, and when asked to support them, you shifted the subject.
Huh? What claims? That Chris had changed his song? Shouldn't Chris respond to that?
God, you're as bad as Rappy, but less entertaining. Still just as evasive and steeped in the Right is right mentality.
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You know what ? Fuck this. I don't care. Everyone knows you're wrong, even if you're not man enough to admit it. So fucking what. You're a miserable piece of shit who clings to his hatred of all those who don't think EXACTLY like you.
Wallow in your own filth, you shit for brains loser.
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Yeah, everyone. That's why you've got soooo many on your side here.
Have fun with that running and hiding bit.
Pussy.
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stop changing the subject. Amdit you were wrong about the magic negro.
Admit I was wrong? How? About what? Rush isn't useing the phrase?
I didn't claim the right started it, just that they embraced it (especially Rush). And I even granted you the notion (without any proof) that the Left started it.
So, where exactly was I worng? I gave you a freebie, even, and you still can't come up with anything.
I concede an unproven point to you, just to be kind, and all you can do it claim I was wrong, about.... nothing?
God, you realy suck at stringing coherent thoughts together. I almost feel bad for picking on the weak, now.
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I'll admit it, he was wrong about the magic negro, whoever said it. Reality check, David Ehrenstein said it. He's a liberal gay black writer, and he was refering to the hollywood writing cliche, the magic negro, a black character who exists only to appear out of nowhere and save the white protagonist.
As for the song:
Okay, I hate to link to Rush Limbaugh, but he's the one who has the story, but I figure rap is the only one listening to rush so he's undoubtedly right.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/estack_12_13_06/BarackSection/Drive-B
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You know what ? Fuck this. I don't care. Everyone knows you're wrong, even if you're not man enough to admit it. So fucking what. You're a miserable piece of shit who clings to his hatred of all those who don't think EXACTLY like you.
Wallow in your own filth, you shit for brains loser.
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Yeah, everyone. That's why you've got soooo many on your side here.
Have fun with that running and hiding bit.
Pussy.
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Any time you want to go, little fuck, just let me know.
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Actually, we rarely bombed Pakistani territory in Bush's 8 yrs. That's why it was hardly ever reporterd, because it hardly ever HAPPENED. Now Barry rode to the White House via his Change and Hope bus on NOT being such a war monger, and yet, here we are, only 3 days in to Aquarius, and he's bombing terrorist. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
Frequent would actually be the term for the attacks on Pakistani territory. Though I find it funny that you're against Obama for doing the same things you almost sucked George Bush's cock straight off for. I guess it's only ok by you if a Republican is doing it, not that you're a partisan or nutin'.
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No one knows this sentence is here.
They don't?
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Any time you want to go, little fuck, just let me know.
Careful Story, you've pushed him to the point where he'll threaten you over the internet! He has a profanity and he's not afraid to use it! He's the hardest strongest prize fighter this side of Virtual Pony Rider version 2!
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Actually, we rarely bombed Pakistani territory in Bush's 8 yrs. That's why it was hardly ever reporterd, because it hardly ever HAPPENED. Now Barry rode to the White House via his Change and Hope bus on NOT being such a war monger, and yet, here we are, only 3 days in to Aquarius, and he's bombing terrorist. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
Frequent would actually be the term for the attacks on Pakistani territory. Though I find it funny that you're against Obama for doing the same things you almost sucked George Bush's cock straight off for. I guess it's only ok by you if a Republican is doing it, not that you're a partisan or nutin'.
Hey dick head, fuck off. And try reading my post before making a colossal asshole out of yourself, once agian. I actually said I'm in favor of going into the hills between Afghanistan / Pakistan, and targeting al Qaeda. OOOPS! Sorry to show you up again, MATE. But I'm real fucking sick of folks misrepresenting my views here, so kindly shove your head up your own ass, and suck it.
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Hey dick head, fuck off. And try reading my post before making a colossal asshole out of yourself, once agian. I actually said I'm in favor of going into the hills between Afghanistan / Pakistan, and targeting al Qaeda. OOOPS! Sorry to show you up again, MATE. But I'm real fucking sick of folks misrepresenting my views here, so kindly shove your head up your own ass, and suck it.
You're so funny when you start using the full vista of your ignorant red neck vocabulary
.Hey man, we're not misrepresenting, you just can't stand by your own view point, but hey I ain't gonna press you on it, you might threaten me over the internet!
Hows saying that you're all for the "cross border attacks" misrepresenting your point anyway, Chuuump? You've just confirmed that is you're position. I just said that you're using Obama apparently doing it as a means to attack him, where if he was a Republican you'd be sucking his cock clean off... It's not misrepresenting, it's your stated position. Not my fault if you're too much of a dickless wonder to stand by your own statements from one post to the next mate.
How does one suck one's own head while it is up one's own 'ass' anyway? Being that you have undoubtedly more 'ass-head' experience I may need your guidance in that regard. Though don't bother if it includes masturbating like a crazed monkey hyped up on Viagra with a poster of George Bush, I mean I know you enjoy that, but it's not my cup of tea eh.
America, take heed! AURaptor is what happens when you have no publicly funded mental health service!
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They don't?
lol
good god, you actually read this thing?
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What can I say, I ran out of booze.
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lol.
21,600 words
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citizen - I'm assuming you're slow for your kind, because there's no hope for jolly ol' England if you represent the 'norm' over there.
The point you're too stupid to figure out, or too stubborn to admit, is that Obama, 3 days into his administration, is doing EXACTLY what Bush was doing, and that's using military force to fight the war on terror.
Now, understand, Obama DID say he'd use force , in Pakistan, back when he was campaigning, so he seems to be living up to a campaign promise. But he ALSO said that he was going to use more diplomacy. So he's sorta talking out of both sides of his mouth ( nothing new for any politician, granted ) And not only was he against the war in Iraq, he was against the surge, which , by all measure, has worked in scaling down the terrrorist activity.
Iraq just had another election, or was that not covered in the UK news ? It was barely covered over here, which is why I ask.
So, in general, Obama ran a campaign of far less military " agression " , as some call it. The world was going to stop hating us, for all of our "war mongering". But 3 days into his historic rise to office, and guess what ? We've got dead terrorist, mobs of protestors rallying aginst the USA, only W's not in charge anymore.
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"... the surge, which , by all measure, has worked in scaling down the terrrorist activity."
Oh, you mean paying Sunnis to not attack Americans ? That surge ?
"The real purpose of the “surge” was to hide another deception. The Bush regime is paying Sunni insurgents $800,000 a day not to attack U.S. forces. That’s right, 80,000 members of an “Awakening group,” the “Sons of Iraq,” a newly formed “U.S.-allied security force” consisting of Sunni insurgents, are being paid $10 a day each not to attack U.S. troops. Allegedly, the Sons of Iraq are now at work fighting al-Qaida.
This is a much cheaper way to fight a war. We can only wonder why Bush didn’t figure it out sooner.
The “surge” was also timed to take account of the near completion of neighborhood cleansing. Most of the violence in Iraq during the past five years has resulted from Sunnis and Shiites driving each other out of mixed neighborhoods. Had the two groups been capable of uniting against the U.S. troops, the United States would have been driven out of Iraq long ago. Instead, the Iraqis slaughtered each other and fought the Americans in their spare time.
In other words, the “surge” has had nothing to do with any decline in violence."
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citizen - I'm assuming you're slow for your kind, because there's no hope for jolly ol' England if you represent the 'norm' over there.
The point you're too stupid to figure out, or too stubborn to admit, is that Obama, 3 days into his administration, is doing EXACTLY what Bush was doing, and that's using military force to fight the war on terror.
Now, understand, Obama DID say he'd use force , in Pakistan, back when he was campaigning, so he seems to be living up to a campaign promise. But he ALSO said that he was going to use more diplomacy. So he's sorta talking out of both sides of his mouth ( nothing new for any politician, granted )
Or in other words you're against him for doing what you sucked George Bush's cock for, proving you are a partisan idiot.
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So, in general, Obama ran a campaign of far less military " agression " , as some call it. The world was going to stop hating us, for all of our "war mongering". But 3 days into his historic rise to office, and guess what ? We've got dead terrorist, mobs of protestors rallying aginst the USA, only W's not in charge anymore.
And in which reality does one attack in Pakistan equate to the constant militarism and aggression of Bush? Oh that's right, it doesn't, unless you're a delusional moron partisan.
Of course the only person who could believe that it's a failure if 8 years of Bush's regime in three days? Oh right, a stupid white trash twit. Another question satisfactorily answered.
I happen to know you're not representative of Americans, not all Americans are insane uneducated morons suffering from severe mental retardation
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Wow, I know you're slow, citizen, but jeeeeesus..... if you go any slower, you'll start typing in reverse !
Twice now, I've stated that I approve of Obama's actions into Pakistan,and yet you still live under the delusion that I'm " only for it " when a Republican is in the W.H. ?
HINT: Read my words slowly, for it seems you keep missing what I'm typing.
Mabye it's the irony that keeps throwing you off. The irony of how Obama ran as a peace-nik, and is only 3 days into office before he's launching attacks into a foreign land.
Do they still HAVE irony over there in England ?
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No one cares what you say AU, no one. We're all laughing at you. No one takes a blind bit of notice, because you're a stupid white trash troll, who knows nothing that Rush Limbaugh or some other far right nut hasn't told you to think.
That's why no one cares what you think. That's why we're all laughing at you.
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"The irony of how Obama ran as a peace-nik ..." Was that before or after "... Obama DID say he'd use force , in Pakistan, back when he was campaigning ..." ?
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To be fair, his carers help
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No one cares what you say AU, no one. We're all laughing at you. No one takes a blind bit of notice, because you're a stupid white trash troll, who knows nothing that Rush Limbaugh or some other far right nut hasn't told you to think.
That's why no one cares what you think. That's why we're all laughing at you.
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I win!
Yep, you win the complete and utter disrespect of everyone here. But then, you've always had that! No one cares about anything you say, no one is listening, and no one takes you seriously.
Being the colossal loser you are, you have to declare yourself the winner, no one else will! Ha, you're such a waste of database space lol.
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Rap, I'd still like an answer to my question:
"The irony of how Obama ran as a peace-nik ..." Was that before or after "... Obama DID say he'd use force , in Pakistan, back when he was campaigning ..." ?
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I win!
Yep, you win the complete and utter disrespect of everyone here. But then, you've always had that! No one cares about anything you say, no one is listening, and no one takes you seriously.
Being the colossal loser you are, you have to declare yourself the winner, no one else will! Ha, you're such a waste of database space lol.
I'd rather stand alone, being right, than with a bunch of bed wetting , lying, little pansy assed losers like you represent.
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Rap, I'd still like an answer to my question:
"The irony of how Obama ran as a peace-nik ..." Was that before or after "... Obama DID say he'd use force , in Pakistan, back when he was campaigning ..." ?
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His entire campaign was one of being a peace-nik, 'tard. He was against the war in Iraq, against the surge, wants to close Gitmo, what about that do you NOT get ? As I recall, his comment about going into Pakistan was brought up during the Dem debates. Not that it's all that relevant.
You'd better be fucking happy now, I'm not even gonna ask if you are. I answered your question.
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I'd rather stand alone, being right, than with a bunch of bed wetting , lying, little pansy assed losers like you represent.
Or on your own, wrong as usual, about everything. How about you get you're big tough self out in to the big wide world and threaten a real person? What's that, you're too dick-less? Well we know that! That's another reasons know one takes anything you parrot seriously!
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Quote:Obviously late in the conversation but... not relevant? How is that not relevant?
His entire campaign was one of being a peace-nik, 'tard. He was against the war in Iraq, against the surge, wants to close Gitmo, what about that do you NOT get ? As I recall, his comment about going into Pakistan was brought up during the Dem debates. Not that it's all that relevant.
Pardon me if I'm wrong here, rapo, but your whole argument sounds like: "Obama said he was going to bomb Pakistan if necessary! But that's not relevant because he wanted to change everything else! So shame on him for doing what he said he would! Because we need to confront islamofascists but not if Barry does it! "
You sound.... confused, at best. Might wanna take another crack at it.
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I love this thread.
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Any time you want to go, little fuck, just let me know.
Oh, noes. I've been threatened by a little internet dipshit. I so scared.
Tell ya what, you wanna have a go, I'm in Farmington, New Mexico. Come on down, if your so brave, and we'll have a go.
Though of course we all know you wont, but it's just soooo adorable watching you act all tough-like.
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Where in Farmington?
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Ok guys...as Book said, we are close to the point of true stupidity here...
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Where in Farmington?
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Tell ya what, get here, pick a spot, and we'll meet.
But I'm not so stupid as to give my home address to someone who hates me, over the internet.
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This is the co-dumbest thread ever. Together with Chris'.
"If those two don't kill each other, I might lend a hand."
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This is the co-dumbest thread ever. Together with Chris'.
"If those two don't kill each other, I might lend a hand."
Give it some time. I'm sure, if I poke Rap enough times, this one can rise to the challenge.
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Yanno, I like pokin the angry monkey with a stick as much as anyone, but we're verging on downright sadism here, folks...
Besides, y'all make his head explode and we're gonna need a new village idiot.
Re: Magical Negro, etc.
Yanno, I never got how that specific stereotype was particularly offensive - yes, it's a racial stereotype, but given that the character in question is usually portrayed as a wise elder, if not downright oracle, AND as one of the good guys if not a hero themselves, why folk find it so offensive is beyond my comprehension.
One of the protest group leaders I work with, Gus, is a former E-6 who is quite fond of the phrase "How the hell should I know, do I look like a magical negro to you?"
The fact that he looks quite a bit like Dutch from Black Lagoon, and most of his cohorts are also very large, and very dark, this comes across quite hilariously when he's saying it to the only honkey there who also happens to be at least six inches shorter than ANYONE in the room.
(And yet talks three times the smack!)
"Don't screw with me Gus, I'll kick your ass."
*Gus looks down, blinks*
"Jeff, get shorty a stepladder, he's gonna need it."
Honestly I think people as a whole got more important shit to worry about than what shade someone elses skin is.
-Frem
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"Honestly I think people as a whole got more important shit to worry about than what shade someone elses skin is. "
Totally agree.
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Yanno, I like pokin the angry monkey with a stick as much as anyone, but we're verging on downright sadism here, folks...
Besides, y'all make his head explode and we're gonna need a new village idiot.
Okay, good point. I'll ease off.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Originally posted by Storymark:
Didn't look into at the time, nor in the intervening years, and don't care now. And this is supposed to convince us you don't have a double-standard, giving a Rightie Admin a pass? Riiiight.
I'm not in the least interested in convincing you of anything.
I'm interested in cabinet nominees who don't pay their taxes because I worked for the IRS for 36 years and know what'd happen to a Federal employee who didn't pay. That's pretty much my whole position; that folk who can't be trusted to file their returns correctly until they get caught shouldn't be in positions of trust in the government. If any of the Republicans nominated to cabinet positions haven't paid their taxes, I'll criticize them as well. If I'm less unhappy than you about other stuff, it's because my interests don't go in that direction.
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So you're deciding his stance on what he didn't say?
When the issue is whether Cabinet nominees who didn't pay their taxes should be confirmed, I'd expect him to state he was against it if he was. Instead...excuses.
{u]HEY CHRIS!!!. You think it's OK to confirm cabinet members who don't remember to pay their taxes until they're audited or being vetted?
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You made claims, and when asked to support them, you shifted the subject.
I'm still waiting for you to quote the claims you allege I made.
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FREM
You're killing the cannibalism. My goddess Molech the owl needs gay manflesh for the sacrifice. Without it, my corporate media-govt empire will collapse.
As for black stereotypes, it's a cultural hangup, they get offended at any of them, negative or not. I guess every culture has its obsession. Jews will accept and use any negative stereotype, or epithet, against themselves, and laugh about it. But god forbid you suggest that a jewish person has ever done anything immoral, they'll go berzerk. (My sister ran into this one with one of her books which has jewish slave owners. They eventually pubilished it, but not until she delivered heaps of evidence to support the idea that there were such people.)
I don't know what other people's buttons are. I think they probably haven't complained enough.
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I'm still waiting for you to quote the claims you allege I made.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
Okay, I mispoke. Let's say implication, rather than "claim".
Like this:
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Why is it no one is trying to defend Geithner, Daschle, and Killefer, but are instead trying real hard to change the subject?
Implying that we are covering for them, Which we are not. This is an implication you have continued to make, even after direct statements to the opposite.
Fact is, we're not defending them, because they don't deserve it. As I said before, our point here is not to defend them, just because they are Democrats, but to point out the hipocricy of those on the opposite side who have and do defend anything a Republican does, no matter what.
Which you have exemplified.
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I guess that's so, DT - I never really understood racism in the first place, and Gus Looooves to mock racial stereotypes, and in this deadpan monotone that flies right past you till he catch the *content* of what he's sayin.
"Loitering ? aw hell officer, it's my right to public assembly, you're just freaked out cause I'm a big scary black man and likely to steal your girlfriend, but really, you don't need to worry bout that, you're cuter than she is, isn't that right, boys ?"
*He grins, we nod*
First time I've ever seen a Redford cop bark tires to get AWAY from someone, lol.
-F
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Originally posted by Storymark:
Fact is, we're not defending them, because they don't deserve it.
You, as an individual, aren't defending them. Good for you. In this thread, you're the only one, aside from myself and Rap, to state they shouldn't be in the cabinet.
Haven't heard from Chris. He, along with Citizen, Rue, and SignyM seem fixated on oral sex with Rush Limbaugh, past administrations, and Pakistan; which seems peculiar in a thread about Cabinet nominations - and haven't expressed any opinion on Dachele, Geithner, and Co.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Where in Farmington?
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
Tell ya what, get here, pick a spot, and we'll meet.
But I'm not so stupid as to give my home address to someone who hates me, over the internet.
Since I'm in Atlanta, why don't we pick somewhere in the middle. No home addresses.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
"Honestly I think people as a whole got more important shit to worry about than what shade someone elses skin is. "
Totally agree.
I totally agree as well. Which is why I get so pissed when citizen falsly accuses me of being a racist. Not only is it a lie, but it also damages the cause in fighting real racism by crying "wolf". Citizen thinks he's being cute and vendictive towards me, but instead, he's actually being a hindrance towards the fight against real racism.
It just shows how narrow minded and simple the Left gets , when ever their holy oxen are gored, which one it may be.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Besides, y'all make his head explode and we're gonna need a new village idiot.
Or in my case, a new village sage.
Just tellin' it like it is.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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I totally agree as well. Which is why I get so pissed when citizen falsly accuses me of being a racist. Not only is it a lie, but it also damages the cause in fighting real racism by crying "wolf". Citizen thinks he's being cute and vendictive towards me, but instead, he's actually being a hindrance towards the fight against real racism.
And occasionally saying "I'm not a racist" doesn't make all the racist things you say not racist any more. But you carry on being a vindictive white trash racist and thinking that if you say different it makes it true. That's the narrow mindless simplicity we've all come to expect of you, and other true racists like yourself who must be fought against.
In your case: Trailer park retard, just telling it like it REALLY is
.More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:LOL. You replied to me, I have the quote, you said Conservative Authoritarian Lapdogs were "real Americans."
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Again, you lie, per usual, about what I said.
There's really no choice here, it's on record, dumass.
The laughing Chrisisall
Liar. I said they were REAL AMERICANS, and the meaning was clear. You're intentionally misrepresenting what I said because -
You're a dick head
You're a loser
You can't deal w/ the truth
You're a dick head.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
So you stand by your words, then? You admit that you said that conservative authoritarian lapdogs (those are the exact words Chris used, and asked what you'd call them) were REAL AMERICANS?
So where have I lied? Was it a lie to quote your own words back to you? Are you so fucking addle-pated that you can't even remember your own words less than twenty-four hours after you posted them? Are you really that goddamned stupid?
It seems you are.
Mike
"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."
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No, YOU forget that I'm the one having to deal w/ a bunch of childish assholes who try to vilify anyone who disagrees with them. Like calling anyone who supports marriage as 1 man and 1 woman to being HOMOPHOBES and Hates.
The Left routinely plays this game where they redefine every damn thing to suit their needs, so they can spin their lies and distort the issues.
Okay, a couple things: First, re-read that second sentence in the first part of your reply. "Like calling anyone who supports marriage as 1 man and 1 woman to being HOMOPHOBES and Hates." It doesn't make any sense, on any level. Someone is being called to HOMOPHOBES and Hates? How does on call another to Hates? How is one called to HOMOPHOBES? Is that a place? Is it like being called to the principal's office?
Second, I think you're confused in your second part. Last time I checked, it wasn't "The Left" who redefined waterboarding from torture to "harmless college prank" so they could use it indiscriminately against people who had no charges filed against them.
Mike
"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."
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And occasionally saying "I'm not a racist" doesn't make all the racist things you say not racist any more. But you carry on being a vindictive white trash racist and thinking that if you say different it makes it true. That's the narrow mindless simplicity we've all come to expect of you, and other true racists like yourself who must be fought against.
In your case: Trailer park retard, just telling it like it REALLY is
For starters, I've never said anything "racist" . You claiming such does not make it so. Second, exactly how many times does one have to say they're not racist before it settles into your noggin? See, where I'm from, folks who constantly are apologizing for things they're not guilty of or pleading innocence for that which.....well, you get the picture.
It's sad you think it's funny that you can accuse others of being racist, when in fact, you're only making matters worse. Maybe when you grow up, you'll understand.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
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For starters, I've never said anything "racist" .
"Camel-jockey" and "towel-head" aren't racist terms?
"Islam IS extremism" isn't a racist statement?
You have no case, AuRacist.
Mike
"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."
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Oh.... dear. Rapo caught by his own words.
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No, YOU forget that I'm the one having to deal w/ a bunch of childish assholes who try to vilify anyone who disagrees with them. Like calling anyone who supports marriage as 1 man and 1 woman to being HOMOPHOBES and *HATERS.
The Left routinely plays this game where they redefine every damn thing to suit their needs, so they can spin their lies and distort the issues.
Second, I think you're confused in your second part. Last time I checked, it wasn't "The Left" who redefined waterboarding from torture to "harmless college prank" so they could use it indiscriminately against people who had no charges filed against them.
Mike
Type too fast, don't proof read, and this is what happens. Even you left off an (e) at the end of a word.
Quote:It happens. I left out one letter (r) and thats corrected. That should make much more sense. :again:
How does on call another to Hates?
Those who support 1 man + 1 woman marriage have been called homophobes and haters by the far Left wing. Better ?
Second, water boarding never was a " harmelss college prank ", but always a means of harsh interogation. And it was rarely used, so let's be clear on that point. But I'm getting really F-ing tired of saying this, and I REALLY want to believe it's just another in a long line of honest misunderstanding that I've seen made by those on the Left. Yes, there were some 'pranks' pulled, excessive to those from the outside, but truly harmless. We're talking hard ass killers, getting a dish of their own medicine, but keeping their eyes,heads, fingers, ears and such, attatched to their bodies. Of that, I can fully agree. Did some of our guys / contractors go overboard ? Clearly, they did. They got caught, and punished, and rightfully so.
They cut off the heads of innocent men, women and children, we water board in order to get valuable information. I'm sorry, but in the game of " equivocation" , I say we're far , FAR ahead on points.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Towelhead isn't racist, it's bigoted. It targets a group, not a race. Camel jockey is probably racist, as it targets I would assume arabs. It's also insensitive, since the camel jockey story is a real issue.
Not piling on, just clarifying is all
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Oh.... dear. Rapo caught by his own words.
As always.
Mike
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"Islam IS extremism" isn't a racist statement?
Possibly a prejudiced statement, but unless Islam has become a race, rather than a religion, it isn't racism.
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Second, water boarding never was a " harmelss college prank ", but always a means of harsh interogation.
See there? You've just participated in that very same "redefining" that you accuse only "The Left" of doing. Calling it "a means of harsh interrogation" soothes your soul, maybe, but it doesn't change the fact that water-boarding IS torture, as defined by (and prosecuted by) every civilized nation, including the United States. We've prosecuted others for doing it to our people, and convicted them of war crimes.
Also, you claim that we don't torture innocents, but you have no basis to make that claim. We're torturing people who haven't been charged with any crime, who haven't had any trial, who are merely suspects. What does the law say about suspects? Something quaint about them being presumed innocent? So, in point of law, we ARE torturing innocents, and have.
You'll claim that they have no legal standing under U.S. law, but they're on U.S. property, on U.S. soil, so they damned well SHOULD have some legal standing - for if they don't, then who the hell does?
Mike
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For starters, I've never said anything "racist" .
"Camel-jockey" and "towel-head" aren't racist terms?
"Islam IS extremism" isn't a racist statement?
Mike
"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."
Don't recall using " camel-jockey ", and if I did, cite it, or take it back.
YOU have no case, moronl.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
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Quote:Sorry, i don't see it as torture. No way, no how, not in the least.
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Second, water boarding never was a " harmelss college prank ", but always a means of harsh interogation.
See there? You've just participated in that very same "redefining" that you accuse only "The Left" of doing. Calling it "a means of harsh interrogation" soothes your soul, maybe, but it doesn't change the fact that water-boarding IS torture, as defined by (and prosecuted by) every civilized nation, including the United States. We've prosecuted others for doing it to our people, and convicted them of war crimes.
Quote:YOU have no basis to make those claims.
Also, you claim that we don't torture innocents, but you have no basis to make that claim. We're torturing people who haven't been charged with any crime, who haven't had any trial, who are merely suspects. What does the law say about suspects? Something quaint about them being presumed innocent? So, in point of law, we ARE torturing innocents, and have.
You'll claim that they have no legal standing under U.S. law, but they're on U.S. property, on U.S. soil, so they damned well SHOULD have some legal standing - for if they don't, then who the hell does?
Mike
Who does? Uniformed soldiers who are members of a standing army, that's who.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
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Uniformed Soldiers have no standard legal standing. Even on US soil they can end up in military court. It's actually the reason I didn't join. Lots of people I know did. I'm glad I didn't, a lot of people I knew who went in did not come out unscathed. Three died, two became deaf.
I see they're using those teaser ads again like they did in the '80s: if you go in, this is what you'll do. Not "oh, and we'll reassign you first thing to something else"
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Uh huh, lemme ask you this then.
If some other country invaded us, would you bother finding a proper "uniform" before you shot back ?
Or bothering with the hassle and paperwork of joining a "standing army", if one was even left (pun intended) standing in the first place ?
Fact of the matter is, regardless of whether WE agree with them or see it that way, the folks in question earnestly believe they're defending their country, their home turf, against us.
And they got a fucking point, THEY live there, we do not, now if they came over here and started a ground war out of uniform, than you might have a leg to stand on, but the truth of the matter is that we are in THEIR country, and many of them consider this an act of intolerable aggression, of invasion, and from THEIR point of view are acting in self defense of person and country.
And it doesn't matter a whit whether or not YOU agree with that, because neither you, nor anyone else, is the final arbiter of what is "right" in a moral sense to anyone BUT you.
And finally, if you are going to apply THAT set of rules of warfare, we're the bad guys even then, since we launched an unprovoked attack on a sovereign nation - it's not a salad bar, you cannot pick and choose, so either you take the whole fucking set and comply, in which case we ARE the bad guys....
Or you throw it out the window and admit these guys are not bound by it either - but you cannot hold them to a moral standard that you refuse yourself to obey and be anything but a pathetic fucking hypocrite.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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Frem
That's very on target. We could have supported a strong anti-Saddam faction, but that would have lead to a stable shiia regime, which is what we got. The secret agenda was a US puppet govt and instablity. That didn't happen.
There was local support for a war against Saddam that was blown with shock and awe, but wasn't completely dead until the levelling of Fallujah. By contrast, in our central asian conflicts, we're in a position where almost no one wanted us there to begin with. Now, we have that situation in Iraq.
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