Obama's picks: 3 quitters, 3 tax cheats and 2 more conflict of interest.

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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, February 5, 2009 6:30 AM

hmm. 200th reply of this thread.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Nixon resigned for much, MUCH less.
LOL, oh really?
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Investigations conducted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and later by the Senate Watergate Committee, House Judiciary Committee and the press revealed that this burglary was one of many illegal activities authorized and carried out by Nixon's staff. They also revealed the immense scope of crimes and abuses, which included campaign fraud, political espionage and sabotage, illegal break-ins, improper tax audits, illegal wiretapping on a massive scale, and a secret slush fund laundered in Mexico to pay those who conducted these operations. This secret fund was also used as hush money to buy the silence of the seven men who were indicted for the June 17 break-in.
Nixon and his staff conspired to cover up the break-in as early as six days after it occurred

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watergate_scandal
Question: Did you actually KNOW what he was empeached for, or were you just guessing?

The laughing Chrisisall

ummmmm...
Confusedisall, are you trying to say that you do not know what Clinton was Impeached for? Are you confused about what he was Impeached for the first time, and/or are you confused about what he was Impeached for the second time?
Or are you confused about what Johnson was Impeached for?
Or are you saying you have failed the pop quiz completely?
Are you saying you do not know the charge of Impeachment for Johnson, or for Clinton's First Impeachment, or for Clinton's Second Impeachment?
If you failed the pop quiz, those would be the only 3 Impeachments of sitting Presidents in U.S. History.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, February 5, 2009 7:24 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Clinton's lies weren't about sex, they were about perjury.

God, you just can't stop reaching, no matter how stupid it makes you look.

The lies were about sex, that WAS the perjury. He didn't lie about perjury, you halfwit.

Trying to make a point are we?
Trying to imply Slick was not Impeached for Perjury? Trying to get sheeple to infer Clinton's Impeachments were for petty sex?
Sorry, you failed.

And just so folk won't get confused: Perjury is lying under Oath. Not lying to the press, or lying to other politicians, or having sex, or screwing the People, or revealing inconvenient truths. It's Lying under Oath.

Aw, it's cute to see you rush in to protect ol' AURhetoric, but you need to brush up on your reading skills, because I didn't say any of the stuff you're implying I did. I implied nothing at all, just corrected dipshit on a factual error (one of them things he's wholly incapable of recognizing in his own writing).

Actually, the only point I was trying to make was that Rappy was talking out his ass.

See, I know what perjury is. I'm not saying Clinton didn't perjur himself.

But Rappy said Clinton lied about perjury, not sex. Which is, quite simply, factually wrong. He lied about sex, which ammounted to perjury.

But thinks for trying.

Are you really this dumb? Really? This dense? Or is this just more diversionary tactics, telling more lies to cover your other lies? I had hoped you were at least able to see how much your were talking out of your bung, and allow you reflection and opportunity to correct your errors, but you just seem off on your own verse and ignoring the facts.
For you to so blithly claim AuRap to be factually incorrect and then blather on with your absolutely factually incorrect claims strains the bounds of hypocrisy. Although it can be argued, and I could agree that AuRap was factually incorrect ONLY in the category of incompleteness and ommission, YOU on the other hand have no reserve of excuse because YOU claimed absolute falsehoods to be truths.
I can agree that AuRaptor stated that Clinton was Impeached for LYING ABOUT PERJURY.
I can agree that AuRaptor said this (posted above).
I can agree that AuRaptor is correct in this statement.
I can agree that AuRaptor was incomplete in his statement, because that was not the sole Article of Impeachment, nor the sole Article he was Impeached for, nor the sole charge under this Article, nor the sole category of charge under this Article. And that he did not state that every charge was not about "lying about sex".
As long as AuRaptor did not identify every single charge under every single category of charges within every single Article which Slick was Impeached for, I can agree that AuRaptor was incorrect only through ommission.
However, AuRaptor did correctly state that Slick was Impeached for LYING ABOUT PERJURY. As long as AuRaptor did not state that this was the sole offense for which Slick was Impeached, AuRaptor remains factually correct. I have not seen AuRaptor make this claim - if I have missed this post, please point me to it. Without AuRaptor making this claim (which would be false), I did not see a need to judge which of you was playing more word games than the other. I would have erred on the side of AuRaptor because it would be less reasonable to itemize EVERY SINGLE CHARGE of all 4 Articles of Impeachment, or even the 2 which Slick was Impeached for, and it may have appeared to be biased (in favor of facts, which liberals translate to "conservatives" or somesuch.)
Also, Auraptor appears to have never claimed to have listed every single charge of every single category of charges within every Article of every Impeachment trial or vote.

You, on the other hand have clearly and obviously stated the falsehood that Slick was NOT Impeached for LYING ABOUT PERJURY, and this

CITIZEN

Thursday, February 5, 2009 7:25 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
For starters, I've never said anything "racist" . You claiming such does not make it so. Second, exactly how many times does one have to say they're not racist before it settles into your noggin? See, where I'm from, folks who constantly are apologizing for things they're not guilty of or pleading innocence for that which.....well, you get the picture.

It's sad you think it's funny that you can accuse others of being racist, when in fact, you're only making matters worse. Maybe when you grow up, you'll understand.

And where I'm from if folks are constantly saying "I'm not racist" while constantly making racist statements, that just makes them delusional racists. You see, most racists honestly think they're not racist, which hardly makes you unique in your racism. When are you going to get it through your tiny mind that making racist comments then saying "but I ain't a racist yeah" doesn't magically expunge your actions?

It's sad that you think you can redefine reality by a statement, while doing nothing to actually deal with your own bigotry, and it's not funny when you make gross racist statements and think saying "but I'm not racist" makes it so, but not standing up to bigoted little twerps like you really wouldn't help.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, February 5, 2009 8:56 AM

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Originally posted by citizen:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I win!

Yep, you win the complete and utter respect of everyone here. But then, you've always had that! ... and...

you have to declare yourself the winner,

After reading the whole thread, gotta admit it's nice to see AuRaptor and Geezer batting a thousand, albeit against halfwits.
Thanks for filling in for those of us with less time. Or less patience for suffering fools.

Oh, and I will state that None of those nominated for Cabinet jobs this year should be allowed in.

AURAPTOR

Thursday, February 5, 2009 10:15 AM

And yet you can't produce a single, solitary comment which shows I'm racist, you just insist on it being so, so you can claim some sort of hallow victory , when all else fails you.

Pathetic.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

FREMDFIRMA

Thursday, February 5, 2009 10:20 AM

Oh please, put the sock puppet away - no one buys it anymore, if they ever did in the first place.

CITIZEN

Thursday, February 5, 2009 1:04 PM

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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:

After reading the whole thread, gotta admit it's nice to see AuRaptor and Geezer batting a thousand, albeit against halfwits.
Thanks for filling in for those of us with less time. Or less patience for suffering fools.

Oh, and I will state that None of those nominated for Cabinet jobs this year should be allowed in.

Well you see, RacistSockpuppetFan, you're as pathetic racist and delluded as your master. It's sad you can't understand that.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

SIGNYM

Thursday, February 5, 2009 2:35 PM

Rapo-

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Well, huckleberry, the rest of us are living in the 21st century, while your buddies, the Towel heads, are eager to return us to THEIR glory years, the 7th century.

www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=24317

But the bigger message in that thread is that rapo would sacrifice habeas corpus on his altar of fear. And he never DID answer my question: The Founding Fathers were traitors to the established order. Their cause was unpopular at first. There were "traitors" in their midst. Their lives, families and homes were at stake. They had more at stake than we do, and yet they wrote a breathtaking document not about fear, but about FREEDOM. But conservative authoritarian lapdogs would throw it all away and claim that is being a "real" American. How?

heh heh heh heh

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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

SIGNYM

Thursday, February 5, 2009 2:37 PM

BTW, Rapo, I'm prolly the only one left who even bothers to answer you civilly. Might wanna ask yourself why.

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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

CHRISISALL

Thursday, February 5, 2009 3:41 PM

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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
are you trying to say that you do not know what Clinton was Impeached for?

I heard it was for perjury.

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Thursday, February 5, 2009 3:43 PM

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Originally posted by Geezer:
HEY CHRIS!!!. You think it's OK to confirm cabinet members who don't remember to pay their taxes until they're audited or being vetted?

No, call me radical, but I kinda like the peeps IN government to abide by the rules they force upon us little people, but maybe that's just me.

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Thursday, February 5, 2009 3:56 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
BTW, Rapo, I'm prolly the only one left who even bothers to answer you civilly. Might wanna ask yourself why.

Clearly, he's paying you.

The laughing Chrisisall

SIGNYM

Thursday, February 5, 2009 4:16 PM

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Clearly, he's paying you.

Nah.... obviously, I'm just one of rapo's sock puppets!!!!

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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

STORYMARK

Thursday, February 5, 2009 4:21 PM

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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
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Originally posted by Storymark:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Clinton's lies weren't about sex, they were about perjury.

God, you just can't stop reaching, no matter how stupid it makes you look.

The lies were about sex, that WAS the perjury. He didn't lie about perjury, you halfwit.

Trying to make a point are we?
Trying to imply Slick was not Impeached for Perjury? Trying to get sheeple to infer Clinton's Impeachments were for petty sex?
Sorry, you failed.

And just so folk won't get confused: Perjury is lying under Oath. Not lying to the press, or lying to other politicians, or having sex, or screwing the People, or revealing inconvenient truths. It's Lying under Oath.

Aw, it's cute to see you rush in to protect ol' AURhetoric, but you need to brush up on your reading skills, because I didn't say any of the stuff you're implying I did. I implied nothing at all, just corrected dipshit on a factual error (one of them things he's wholly incapable of recognizing in his own writing).

Actually, the only point I was trying to make was that Rappy was talking out his ass.

See, I know what perjury is. I'm not saying Clinton didn't perjur himself.

But Rappy said Clinton lied about perjury, not sex. Which is, quite simply, factually wrong. He lied about sex, which ammounted to perjury.

But thinks for trying.

Are you really this dumb? Really? This dense? Or is this just more diversionary tactics, telling more lies to cover your other lies? I had hoped you were at least able to see how much your were talking out of your bung, and allow you reflection and opportunity to correct your errors, but you just seem off on your own verse and ignoring the facts.
For you to so blithly claim AuRap to be factually incorrect and then blather on with your absolutely factually incorrect claims strains the bounds of hypocrisy. Although it can be argued, and I could agree that AuRap was factually incorrect ONLY in the category of incompleteness and ommission, YOU on the other hand have no reserve of excuse because YOU claimed absolute falsehoods to be truths.
I can agree that AuRaptor stated that Clinton was Impeached for LYING ABOUT PERJURY.
I can agree that AuRaptor said this (posted above).
I can agree that AuRaptor is correct in this statement.
I can agree that AuRaptor was incomplete in his statement, because that was not the sole Article of Impeachment, nor the sole Article he was Impeached for, nor the sole charge under this Article, nor the sole category of charge under this Article. And that he did not state that every charge was not about "lying about sex".
As long as AuRaptor did not identify every single charge under every single category of charges within every single Article which Slick was Impeached for, I can agree that AuRaptor was incorrect only through ommission.
However, AuRaptor did correctly state that Slick was Impeached for LYING ABOUT PERJURY. As long as AuRaptor did not state that this was the sole offense for which Slick was Impeached, AuRaptor remains factually correct. I have not seen AuRaptor make this claim - if I have missed this post, please point me to it. Without AuRaptor making this claim (which would be false), I did not see a need to judge which of you was playing more word games than the other. I would have erred on the side of AuRaptor because it would be less reasonable to itemize EVERY SINGLE CHARGE of all 4 Articles of Impeachment, or even the 2 which Slick was Impeached for, and it may have appeared to be biased (in favor of facts, which liberals translate to "conservatives" or somesuch.)
Also, Auraptor appears to have never claimed to have listed every single charge of every single category of charges within every Article of every Impeachment trial or vote.

You, on the other hand have clearly and obviously stated the falsehood that Slick was

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WULFENSTAR

Thursday, February 5, 2009 4:32 PM

Ahhh America...land of the free, home of the brave...

Free to say what you like as long as it doesn't offend anyone...*sigh

Offending a person is important. We arn't Nazis, and people are going to disagree. Its a good thing.

And at the risk of ire,its ALSO a good thing to point out stereotypes. Stereotypes don't just happen. They have at least SOME truth to them. So, work to change that negative aspect of said stereotype and no one can say shit.

Asians, for example, have a good stereotype. They are "good at math". Nothing wrong with it if you KNOW its just a stereotype and not EVERY Asian is going to a math professor.

If you know its a stereotype, then work to increase it, or decrease it.

For example, my friend REFUSES to eat watermelon. He likes it, so do I. Its a good melon. BUT, he doesn't like the "monkey-on-the-porch-eating-watermelon" stereotype, and doesn't want people to be able to say shit. Same reason he won't eat fried chicken.

Each of us, if we feel strongly about it, can work to decrease our own stereotypes.

Whether we want it or not, one group is always going to stereotype another. Its a human condition. Wishing and trying to force it to not be so won't change that.

All you can do is work to change the stereotype, and if nothing else, don't let it apply to you.

CHRISISALL

Thursday, February 5, 2009 4:35 PM

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:

All you can do is work to change the stereotype, and if nothing else, don't let it apply to you.

I personally take offense at the Irishmen-drink-a-lot stereotype. I find it repulsive.
*OOOPS*
Heh, spilled my beer....

The laughing Chrisisall

DREAMTROVE

Thursday, February 5, 2009 4:37 PM

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Wow. It's waaaaay too easy to get you wingnuts riled up.

Lefties too, apparently, don't know if you noticed but a slice in the middle here is laughing at all of y'all. Just in fun. When you guys take your meds it'll all be right as rain, aight?

SIGNYM

Thursday, February 5, 2009 5:01 PM

Meanwhile, Rapo has deserted yet another thread.

Rapo, you gotta realize man... hardly anyone takes you seriously. You're a ditto-head caricature. You really do have to give SOME thought to the opinions you post. They're not yours, their Limbaugh's, and you can't even defend them properly. Name-calling and getting loud and angry might get cheers from other ditto-heads, but that doesn't play to THIS crowd. So excavate your head from Limbaugh's *ss and smell the coffee. You're not in Kansas (or Auburn) anymore.

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Don't bring that weak sh*t to MY kitchen.

WULFENSTAR

Thursday, February 5, 2009 5:03 PM

Then you have assholes like THESE playing UP the stereo-type....

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6247438.html

Its biased because you have to be able to READ the test...

So...for these fake-ass "firemen"...who at this point probably only got their jobs thru affirmative action....heres a song for you. (As sung by Carlos Mencia)

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Dee Dee Dee doesn't mean mentally retarded,
It means stupid,
This song goes out to all the stupid people out there,
You're going to find this song hilarious,
And you don't even know, it's about you.

(singing)

You dropped out of school because you're smarter than everybody,
I've got three words for you dumbass 'Ding fries ready!',
You try to outrun a bull, nobody's that fast,
That's how you end up with a horn stuck up your ass,
He won't help me 'cuz he's a star,
.... he got hit by a car,
If you wanna go hunting for quails someplace,
Don't go with Cheney; he'll put a fucking shot in your face,
If you bungee jump so you can fly through the air,
That's how you ended up in that wheelchair,
You ignore all the warnings you light up a smoke,
Then you have to talk with a machine in your throat,

CHORUS:

How many idiots can there be?
Some say that it's 1 out of 3,
If you don't know then take it from me,
You're the Dee Dee Dee

(talking) You! You! You! Dee dee dee!

CHORUS:

And if you are a Dee,
Please don't marry a Dee,
'Cause then your kids will be,
Dee Dee Dee

Carlos Mencia (talking): Dee Dee Dee!

You cry about the price of gas and war in Iraq,
But you voted Bush twice, what were you smoking crack?
Didn't get a preenup, though you knew she was a skank,
Know you've got her .... and she's got half your bank,
You were on top of the world, with 'Baby Hit Me One More Time',
Only a stupid bitch would marry Kevin Federline,
You drink and drive, and you think it's okay,
Know your cellmate's going in and out of the hershey highway,
You put tigers in your show and they can't be free,
They'll bite your neck off and then you'll say Dee Dee Dee,

CHORUS:

How many idiots can there be?
Some say that it's 1 out of 3,
If you don't know then take it from me,
You're the Dee Dee Dee

And if you are a Dee,
Please don't marry a Dee,
It's genetics don't you see,
Your kids will be Dee Dee Dee.

Carlos Mencia (talking): That's what they'll be! DEE DEE DEE!

Parents are to blame for all these Dee Dee Dees,
Lettings their kids drop out and not get GEDs,
Get your kids inside, 'cause there's freaks on the loose,
But you're letting them drink from Michael Jackson's jesus juice?
You don't care when your kids come home with Ds from class,
What you need to do is get some balls and beat that ass,
'He isn't stupid', you say 'He's got ADD',
It's that his mom and his dad are both Dee Dee Dee!
'This test is too hard'
So we lower the standards,
'I'm not good at sports'
So we give him a trophy,
'My dad used to spank me',
So we lower the standards,
'I'm too fat for this seat'
So we lower the standards,
'They say no 'cause I'm black'
So we lower the standards,
'They say no 'cause I'm white'
So we lower the standards,
'They say no 'cause I'm Asian'
So we lower the standards,
'No hablo Ingles'
So we lower the standards,
And you wake up one day, no you don't have the skills,
To get up at your job, so you're stuck at the grill,
And you're wondering who took your job,
You're as dumb as a knob,
Now you're ass is too fat to get out of the house,
And you're eating more food, trying to figure it out,
Why they give my job, to some guy named Abhib,
'Cause he work harder and he's got 5 degrees,
And you're asking yourself, how could this happen to me?
I'll tell you why, homie, 'cause you're ... Dee Dee Dee.

WULFENSTAR

Thursday, February 5, 2009 6:11 PM

Yeah, thats what I fucking thought.

WULFENSTAR

Thursday, February 5, 2009 6:11 PM

Yeah, thats what I fucking thought.

DREAMTROVE

Thursday, February 5, 2009 6:39 PM

Dude. chill. Lay of the steroids or something. You're like angry at the surrounding air.

KWICKO

Thursday, February 5, 2009 6:50 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:

All you can do is work to change the stereotype, and if nothing else, don't let it apply to you.
I personally take offense at the Irishmen-drink-a-lot stereotype. I find it repulsive.
*OOOPS*
Heh, spilled my beer....

The laughing Chrisisall

Hey Chris - you know what an Irish seven-course meal is?

A potato and a six-pack.

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

WULFENSTAR

Thursday, February 5, 2009 6:54 PM

"Dude. chill. Lay of the steroids or something. You're like angry at the surrounding air."

Yeah. Lol That is the truth.

KWICKO

Thursday, February 5, 2009 6:54 PM

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Then you have assholes like THESE playing UP the stereo-type....

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6247438.html

Its biased because you have to be able to READ the test...

Oh, I get it - you have to be able to read, and black people can't. Right? Is that your point?

Tell me again how racist you aren't, 'cause that never gets old.

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

STORYMARK

Thursday, February 5, 2009 7:00 PM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
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Wow. It's waaaaay too easy to get you wingnuts riled up.

Lefties too, apparently, don't know if you noticed but a slice in the middle here is laughing at all of y'all.

Yeah, but you're not very entertaining, so no one pays attention.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

WULFENSTAR

Thursday, February 5, 2009 7:02 PM

Thats what their lawsuit says you backbirth.

FREMDFIRMA

Thursday, February 5, 2009 7:06 PM

Actually Wulf, if we ever do happen to run into each other personally, I'd love to introduce you to Gus, he's a former E-6 and black socialist* who kept going round that circle till he hit Anarchism, and runs a black bloc in detroit, and the guy Looooves mocking the shit out of racist stereotypes.

Being friggin huge and combat vet, he can damn well get away with it too - if someone mocked his eating habits in such fashion, without a doubt he'd show up for lunch that day with a bucket of KFC in on arm, a watermelon on his shoulder, and a 2 litre of grape soda stickin out his cargo pocket.

And he'd SMILE at you while he was eatin it too.

*There's still a lotta leftover socialist leanings in the black community, and the reason for that is a quite natural counter-reaction to hardline right/imperial racism over the years, and to understand why that can naturally come around to Anarchism so easily, I've provided a handy, although oversimplified, visual aid for ya.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

CHRISISALL

Thursday, February 5, 2009 7:23 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

Hey Chris - you know what an Irish seven-course meal is?

A potato and a six-pack.

LOL, that's great, how is it I've never heard it B4?

I mean, you're askin' fer it, buddy!!!

The laughing Chrisisall

WULFENSTAR

Thursday, February 5, 2009 7:31 PM

Yeah so the answer is to lower the standards, right? Let everyone play. Whether they can do the job or not.

Fuck off.

STORYMARK

Thursday, February 5, 2009 7:34 PM

And someone said if Rappy left, we'd be without a villiage idiot.

Thanks for pitching in, Wulf!

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

CHRISISALL

Thursday, February 5, 2009 7:37 PM

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Yeah so the answer is to lower the standards, right? Let everyone play. Whether they can do the job or not.

I get from that lawsuit that the test is (possibly) skewed towards White peeps. There are ways of making multiple choice tests culturally exclusive, even by accident. Best let a civil case decide, it's too easy for peeps not involved to judge (meaning U & Me, son).

The laughing Chrisisall

WULFENSTAR

Thursday, February 5, 2009 7:46 PM

Yeah, like making the test in English. That'll teach them.

*sigh

You guys don't really know whats going on out here do you?

BYTEMITE

Thursday, February 5, 2009 7:55 PM

Well, okay, but seriously, what IS a fleet of yachts called?

That's a rather common question on tests, and a rather famous example of how standardized testing may be unintentionally skewed towards a demographic.

Who the hell knows that who isn't a little bit waspy?

I think there was another one I encountered once about tea serving customs, and I thought, erm, what?

Sorry if this isn't at all what you guys are talking about, knee-jerk reaction to the last three posts I read here as I was trying to catch up.

WULFENSTAR

Thursday, February 5, 2009 8:04 PM

Fair enough, I have no clue what a fleet of yahts is called.

And Im white as the day is long.

Their lawsuit stems from the idea that a black cannot do well in a written, timed test. I say fuck you very much. No lowering the standards to placate some misplaced inferiority.

WULFENSTAR

Thursday, February 5, 2009 8:07 PM

and to Fred. You know more about the jungle than I can ever preach to these "Romans".

So be it.

I would meet your friend.

And damnit if he and I couldn't come to some understanding.

STORYMARK

Thursday, February 5, 2009 8:26 PM

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Yeah, like making the test in English. That'll teach them.

*sigh

You guys don't really know whats going on out here do you?

Way to jump to the simplest, least challenging conclusion, Bravo!

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

WULFENSTAR

Thursday, February 5, 2009 8:35 PM

Well, Story, I thought the least challenging conclusion would suit you.

GEEZER

Thursday, February 5, 2009 8:42 PM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Well, okay, but seriously, what IS a fleet of yachts called?

It's called a fleet.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

PIZMOBEACH

Thursday, February 5, 2009 9:00 PM

What's funny about this is that Bush's nominees probably weren't any different, they were just better at covering their f-ups, more experienced.

BYTEMITE

Thursday, February 5, 2009 9:00 PM

Actually it was something different. Something weird like how a bunch of crows is called a murder of crows. I have no idea what it was right now... All I know is that in the prep classes I took for the tests, they told me to watch out for that question.

And apparently I learned it really well. XD

BYTEMITE

Thursday, February 5, 2009 9:08 PM

In any case, no, I don't think making tests easier will solve any of our problems. I propose more careful selection of questions to avoid the problem that resulted in this lawsuit, not an easier test.

Although, I've long thought that the way we give tests may be more of a hindrance to education. You've got to challenge kids some way, and yes, sometimes they have to be able to memorize and regurgitate facts. But I also think it's possible that tests may cause some students to give up in school, and sometimes early on. Of course, you also have to look at how supportive the parents are, too...

KWICKO

Thursday, February 5, 2009 9:31 PM

Flotilla? Armada? Regatta?

A "fleet" or "armada" generally implies military connotations, though. You can have a fleet of warships, but generally not a fleet of yachts.

Does that make sense?

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

CHRISISALL

Thursday, February 5, 2009 9:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
You can have a fleet of warships, but generally not a fleet of yachts.

Does that make sense?

You fail. No Captaincy for YOU!

The laughing Chrisisall

KWICKO

Thursday, February 5, 2009 9:36 PM

And, you know, when a firefighter responds to an emergency, the FIRST thing you want to make sure of is that he can read and write English, right? I mean, if he can't write about the fire, how is he ever going to be able to put it out?

How 'bout an oral exam? You ask the guy questions, he tells you answers. If he's right, he's your guy.

Wulf, you seem hung up on the idea that the black firefighters don't seem as capable of doing the bureaucratic paper-pushing and filling out the forms correctly. I thought you were AGAINST more bureaucracy and paper-pushing, and wanted men of action to save your world. Do I have this wrong?

I may be oversimplifying, but I find it more important that we have firefighters on the scene who know how to put out fires, rather than firefighters who know how to take a written exam or file a report.

Just sayin'...

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

KWICKO

Thursday, February 5, 2009 9:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
You can have a fleet of warships, but generally not a fleet of yachts.

Does that make sense?

You fail. No Captaincy for YOU!

The laughing Chrisisall

Dang, and I was SOOO looking forward to that. Guess I'll have to go back to sailing my own li'l boat solo, just like I've been doing for 30-odd years...

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

BYTEMITE

Thursday, February 5, 2009 9:48 PM

It might be regatta, the online dictionaries say that has to do with yachts and I've actually encountered the other two words.

Sorry for the off-topicness! It's been bothering me since the standardized testing came up.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, February 6, 2009 5:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
LOL, that's great, how is it I've never heard it B4?

The laughing Chrisisall

How many Irishmen does it take to change a light bulb?
51. One to hold the light bulb, 50 to drink til the room spins (they were light drinkers).

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, February 6, 2009 6:08 AM

When working as a team, or as teams, as firefighters are supposed to do, one must be able to effectively communicate in a common language. So that "homie be da KFC" does not send the next Fire Engine to the Knights of Columbus where there is no fire.

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:

How 'bout an oral exam? You ask the guy questions, he tells you answers. If he's right, he's your guy.

Mike

I would think an oral exam would allow much greater discrimination, but the written exam can isolate the status of race, color, creed and allow the answers to be compared equally.

CHRISISALL

Friday, February 6, 2009 6:18 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
I would think an oral exam would allow much greater discrimination, but the written exam can isolate the status of race, color, creed and allow the answers to be compared equally.

Whatever. I am in a much more agreeable state due to the Alba thread.
This site is great; I love all you guys.
The Shinyness of heterosexuality trumps all argumentation.
Peace through Alba.

The laughing Chrisisall

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, February 6, 2009 6:51 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:
Wow. It's waaaaay too easy to get you wingnuts riled up.

So even when your lies are spelled out so clearly in such simple language that even a retard like you should be able to understand it, you remian incapable of comprehending how wrong and delusional you are?

And then you feign ignorance about why nobody bothers to respond to your lies, when most of us with a brain (meaning those who disagree with you) don't bother replying or trying to help enlighten you with facts and knowledge.

You really must be the biggest loser on this site, on a level all to yourself.
And for those of us who can think for ourselves, we are in awe of the patience it takes for the enlightened such as AuRaptor, Geezer, Kirkules to entertain your delusions of knowledge or discussion.
You have forfeited the right to claim anybody should respond to your nonsensical "arguments".
Whatever will your talking points coaches have you do now?

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, February 6, 2009 6:56 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
I would think an oral exam would allow much greater discrimination, but the written exam can isolate the status of race, color, creed and allow the answers to be compared equally.
Whatever. I am in a much more agreeable state due to the Alba thread.
This site is great; I love all you guys.
The Shinyness of heterosexuality trumps all argumentation.
Peace through Alba.

The laughing Chrisisall

Albaholicisall, Mostly I saw red x city in that thread, but maybe they did include the shots of the other nipple in her wardrobe malfunctions - those are quite common pics.
if you have not, I suggest more unovered Albaness in Good Luck Chuck and Awake (including the soaked t-shirt scenes).

CHRISISALL

Friday, February 6, 2009 6:58 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
And for those of us who can think for ourselves, we are in awe of the patience it takes for the enlightened such as AuRaptor, Geezer, Kirkules to entertain your delusions of knowledge or discussion.

[Bad guy from "Help" voice]
Go to the Alba thread... Go to the Alba thread...

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Friday, February 6, 2009 7:03 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:

Albaholicisall

Sorry, my Wife is a hot laitina; I seem to have a type.

Ai corumba!

The laughing Chrisisall

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, February 6, 2009 10:51 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:

Albaholicisall
Sorry, my Wife is a hot laitina; I seem to have a type.

Ai corumba!

The laughing Chrisisall

I hope you did not confuse a compliment for a complaint. I assumed you were aware Albaholics refer to themselves as such.
Latinaholicisall is slightly less rhythmic.

DREAMTROVE

Friday, February 6, 2009 2:00 PM

I don't know why, but all this talk about hot latinas having to take an oral rite of passage is putting an image into my head.

AURAPTOR

Friday, February 6, 2009 2:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
I don't know why, but all this talk about hot latinas having to take an oral rite of passage is putting an image into my head.

oh that's just great!

I'll be in my bunk.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

WULFENSTAR

Friday, February 6, 2009 2:23 PM

Alba.....soooo hot........

Lol

Which brings to mind Sin City....which charecter are you?

A suggestion...

John Hartigan = Frem

I'll be Marv... after all....my knuckles are scrapped from dragging them on the floor all over the place.

SIGNYM

Friday, February 6, 2009 3:12 PM

Gosh I hate to drag real world experience into a real-world thread, but having helped create a written chemist exam I can tell you that it's way too easy for unconscious bias to sneak into the questions, and very hard to ferret it out.

Now, OTOH, if the fire fighters are complaining about having to take ANY sort of written multiple-choice test.... screw 'em. If they choke on a test, how will they respond to a real-world crisis?

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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

DREAMTROVE

Friday, February 6, 2009 3:26 PM

I'm in favor of standardized testing. I used to write questions for the SAT, and ETS was real strict on that sort of stuff. OTOH, for some reason when I got the test there was a question on it about Hamlet's soliloquy. "Soliloquy" was the vocab word, and the foils were things like "diatribe." It would have been possible to answer not knowing Shakespeare but knowing the language very well, but the question would be a shoe in for anyone familiar with Shakespeare. I wonder how the question got in there, given that I could never have put up anything close to that.

But in man-hour terms, the standardized test is the obvious answer. And it's better done by some massive corporation than an individual teacher. Random college students with last year's test can get an A in some classes without knowing anything about the subject. It's a tricky art.

STORYMARK

Friday, February 6, 2009 5:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:
Wow. It's waaaaay too easy to get you wingnuts riled up.

So even when your lies are spelled out so clearly in such simple language that even a retard like you should be able to understand it, you remian incapable of comprehending how wrong and delusional you are?

And then you feign ignorance about why nobody bothers to respond to your lies, when most of us with a brain (meaning those who disagree with you) don't bother replying or trying to help enlighten you with facts and knowledge.

You really must be the biggest loser on this site, on a level all to yourself.
And for those of us who can think for ourselves, we are in awe of the patience it takes for the enlightened such as AuRaptor, Geezer, Kirkules to entertain your delusions of knowledge or discussion.
You have forfeited the right to claim anybody should respond to your nonsensical "arguments".
Whatever will your talking points coaches have you do now?

No halfwit, you seem to be missing that my sole point here is to piss of Rappy. You just stepping in front of the target.

"Enlightened". Now that is funny, I will give you that.

I don't care how good they are at arguing a point, anyone who so slavishly devotes themselves to failed policies and ways of thinking so bad they've led us to an ever deepening spiral of woe, cannot be considered anything other than a Moran. Which is why they deserve nothing but scorn and mockery.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

CHRISISALL

Friday, February 6, 2009 5:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
I assumed you were aware Albaholics refer to themselves as such.

I did not know that.

The laughing Chrisisall

DREAMTROVE

Friday, February 6, 2009 6:06 PM

Philip K Dick fans call themselves "dickheads" :)
True, too.

CITIZEN

Friday, February 6, 2009 6:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Flotilla? Armada? Regatta?

A "fleet" or "armada" generally implies military connotations, though. You can have a fleet of warships, but generally not a fleet of yachts.

Does that make sense?

Armada is Spanish, coming from medieval Latin for army. It's usually used to refer to an entire fleet that has been tasked with a single mission, instead of breaking the fleet up into individual squadrons.

A Regatta is a race.

Fleets are less military than Flotilla really. Flotilla are fleets which are comprised of the same class of ship.

You can have a fleet of virtually anything, like a company car fleet, or a fishing fleet. Personally I'd guess that a group of Yachts would be a flotilla, but fleet would work equally well.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

DREAMTROVE

Friday, February 6, 2009 7:36 PM

Quote:

*There's still a lotta leftover socialist leanings in the black community, and the reason for that is a quite natural counter-reaction to hardline right/imperial racism over the years, and to understand why that can naturally come around to Anarchism so easily, I've provided a handy, although oversimplified, visual aid for ya.

Ya sure? 'cause I look back and blacks weren't on the left until the 1960s, maybe 50s, 40s, some migration, but all that time it was dems who were being imperialist.

Here's my take: Folks support it when they get a hand out. Any voter bloc can probably be bought. I know a lot of conservatives who can't move from their position because they want their tax break. Same damn thing. Of course, not everyone is a sell out, but those who do invoke peer pressure on everyone else.

Goes back to that whole addiction thing. The reward system, the handout/tax break recipient stands the same thing to gain by garnering local support.

Only reason I say this is Think about the civil rights movement that turned the black population democratic. The GOP at the time was in power, when it started, and supported the idea. They didn't have anything against Eisenhower/Nixon, and sure, there was republican resistance to the idea, but there was a lot of democratic resistance as well (Strom Thurmond's lil campaign? for example?)

IMHO, It's a Kennedy/Johnson magic trick, like the one Cheney's crew pulled with Christians (they weren't always republicans.)

Just my 2 cents, now back to work

RUE

Friday, February 6, 2009 7:42 PM

Back to the title --- I would really, REALLY like to see Obama pick a few repubicans and have them vetted thoroughly.

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Silence is consent.

DREAMTROVE

Friday, February 6, 2009 7:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURAPTOR:

Silly Rue, no one cares about the thread title anymore.

RUE

Friday, February 6, 2009 8:03 PM

It just got too long for me to catch up.

(I don't actually know any young guys who are supposed to be hot, so I picked him at random.)

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Silence is consent.

THATWEIRDGIRL

Friday, February 6, 2009 8:14 PM

Gah.
I don't check in often enough and I miss the entire point of a thread. I don't even know what to comment on now. Latinas with an oral fixation? Bombing people? Firefly retention? Ass to mouth? What's going on?!

I'm not surprised the administration is vetting people with problems. I'm surprised they aren't mentioning the known problems with the announcement and why it should not be a problem for their new position. Not that I care much for their choices thus far...but am I ever going to be completely happy with an appointment? Nah.

---
Sometimes I lie awake at night, and I ask, "Where have I gone wrong?" Then a voice says to me, "This is going to take more than one night."
-- Charlie Brown
www.thatcostumegirl.com
www.thatweirdgirl.com

DREAMTROVE

Friday, February 6, 2009 8:20 PM

Double Post

DREAMTROVE

Friday, February 6, 2009 8:20 PM

Christian Bale is a decent looking guy, but I'm not the best judge. You're supposed to be the judge of that. If you're part of the girl on girl crowd, post girls, everyone'll appreciate that 'cept fmf.

He does have the cache of being psycho du jour. I think it's hollywood that put the pressure on, might have even given him the steroids and amphetamines that I'm guessing pushed him over the edge. As long as he doesn't go all Mel Gibson on us it'll probably work out okay.

I don't actually have a Jessica Alba obsession, just feeding what the people want. It was a dark angel thread, that's why. I figure, keep it topical. Otherwise madness might ensue. (witness my exchange with fmf on the dark angel thread, which itself is just softcore porn, that's what happens when Chris tries to be serious. It's my fault, I think. Rap started it!)

FREMDFIRMA

Saturday, February 7, 2009 4:26 PM

Ooo, Empress Regent TWG!
*melts*

Yanno, if it didn't make me feel like a dirty old perv, I'd drool over YOU, sweetheart.

I still think you should do Suiseiseki though, cause it fits oh so very well, desu.

-F

DREAMTROVE

Saturday, February 7, 2009 4:41 PM

That Weird Girl

1. This thread was about something?

2. Not latinas with an oral fixation, whether or not they would do better with an oral exam. ;)

3. The theory at large is that Obama is trying to knock down his own nominees, because they aren't his personal picks, they were handed to him by the Clintonistas. We know this mostly because he said who he wanted for cabinet picks, as have the Clintons, and oh, look who got nominated? and that's because Obama knows like no one in washington, and the clintons know like everyone, so they pulled strings. so, sure, these are technically his nominees, but they aren't the people he wants. He'd much rather have Buffett for treasury than Geitner. Who wouldn't? But president ain't a king. He has to deal with people. I guess a king has to deal with influence peddlers too.

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