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Where the crew stands on a couple of things post-BDM

POSTED BY: UndaFiya
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Thursday, January 1, 2009 6:58 PM

There's a couple of things that don't seem to get discussed much that i've always wondered about as to where the crew stands after the movie, and i'm curious to hear what you guys think.

1. Is Simon still a fugitive? The Operative did say that he told the Alliance "They're not a threat anymore", but even he said himself he can't guarantee they'll listen. But even if not, more important is the fact that he's still going to have to eventually contact or go back to his parents temporarily to explain to them

A) "You would not believe where i was the last couple of months"
B) What really happened to River
C) "You know that broadcast you just saw? We were responsible for that"
D) Kaylee/basically his future-wife and family

And when he explains to them what he does on Serenity, (since they're going to want to know, considering it will become his life) how's he going to tell them "Yeah i'm going to be a criminal for the rest of my life \m/" I guess he could sort of lie about it and say that they do legitimate jobs, but even for him, imagine that, he's choosing to now become a criminal for the rest of his life. I'd be interested to know how he feels about that, because it's different than reluctantly being the doctor for criminals because he had to, now he's choosing to.

2. If Inara does get with Mal, will she remain a companion? We're obviously supposed to assume that the two of them get together, and as a good observation i read in one of the "Subtle observations" threads said, when she isn't wearing any makeup in the final scene of BDM it shows she is sort of in "home" mode instead of companion-mode, so we can kind of assume she's done being a companion. But then what would her role be on the ship?

3. Assuming the broadcast that Mal got out about the Reavers becomes a legendary well known thing throughout the 'Verse, what does that do for the Serenity crew's status? Will they become known for it? I guess the only person who really knows that they were the ones responsible for it is The Operative and any of the troops who pursued them, but i wonder how the crew would embrace it. Would they embrace it? Or would they do a sort of secret identity don't-tell-anyone-it-was-us thing. If they did tell people they'd probably become living legends, but i don't know how they'd be able to prove it was them to people.

If there's any fanfic out there that takes place after the movie dealing with any of this stuff that anyone knows of, i'd love to read it. :)

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Thursday, January 1, 2009 7:16 PM

I am not sure that SImon has to explain anything to his parents. They washed their hands of him and, as far as I am concerned, River.

I do think they are still fugitives. The Alliance is not forgiving.

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Friday, January 2, 2009 1:19 AM

yes:) - MUCH fan fiction here ponders the post-BDM future of our heroes. Dig into the BSR and you'll be rewarded:)

Similarly - trawl the archives here and you will stumble on some amazing posts lasting CONSIDERABLE lengths of time dealing with almost every possible contingency and character action/trait/habit etc.

There is even an entire site http://www.stillflying.net dedicated to producing scripts for continuing adventures (and it's a great site to boot!).

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Friday, January 2, 2009 4:18 AM

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Originally posted by wytchcroft:
yes:) - MUCH fan fiction here ponders the post-BDM future of our heroes. Dig into the BSR and you'll be rewarded:)

Similarly - trawl the archives here and you will stumble on some amazing posts lasting CONSIDERABLE lengths of time dealing with almost every possible contingency and character action/trait/habit etc.

There is even an entire site http://www.stillflying.net dedicated to producing scripts for continuing adventures (and it's a great site to boot!).



Great, yeah i looked over the stillflying.net website briefly and i really liked what i read. Didn't see it go post-BDM but i can still dig it.

I've been reading lots of stuff on this site's board and there definitely is a ton of great discussion going on exploring the characters and all sorts of what-ifs. Best i've ever found on this stuff in fact, this truly is an outstanding site.

I haven't checked much of the BSR out but thanks for the recommendation i'll head there right now!

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Friday, January 2, 2009 4:47 AM

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Originally posted by wytchcroft:
yes:) - MUCH fan fiction here ponders the post-BDM future of our heroes. Dig into the BSR and you'll be rewarded:)

Similarly - trawl the archives here and you will stumble on some amazing posts lasting CONSIDERABLE lengths of time dealing with almost every possible contingency and character action/trait/habit etc.

There is even an entire site http://www.stillflying.net dedicated to producing scripts for continuing adventures (and it's a great site to boot!).



Wytchcroft pretty much hits it on the head. Those are all questions fan fics deal with, and pretty much every variation, pro or con or in combination, has been the basis for stories. I don't think the fans agree very much about any of 'em.

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Friday, January 2, 2009 9:38 AM

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Originally posted by UndaFiya:
There's a couple of things that don't seem to get discussed much that i've always wondered about as to where the crew stands after the movie, and i'm curious to hear what you guys think.


Let me say that first off there is a plethora of fiction that deals with this. Some good, some bad, some canon, some really not. I'm going to try to address all questions with hypothetical answers via my own fiction and how I approach it.
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1. Is Simon still a fugitive? The Operative did say that he told the Alliance "They're not a threat anymore", but even he said himself he can't guarantee they'll listen. But even if not, more important is the fact that he's still going to have to eventually contact or go back to his parents temporarily to explain to them ....
And when he explains to them what he does on Serenity, (since they're going to want to know, considering it will become his life) how's he going to tell them "Yeah i'm going to be a criminal for the rest of my life \m/" I guess he could sort of lie about it and say that they do legitimate jobs, but even for him, imagine that, he's choosing to now become a criminal for the rest of his life. I'd be interested to know how he feels about that, because it's different than reluctantly being the doctor for criminals because he had to, now he's choosing to.


Simon does not go back to Osiris. Though the Alliance has deemed him and his sister no longer wanted as they are no longer a threat nor apart of the sudden and much bigger problem (riots, insurrection, outrage, vandalism, talk of planets pulling out of the parlament, whisperings of the browncoats returning, boycotts, economical woes, ect due to the Miranda video) he will not risk the peace they have to go back. River is safe, they are not being pursued, and above all he now questions if he would still belong amongst the privledged. His views have change, he himself has changed, adapted, and while he still may be proper he's found himself a home as well as a cute little mechanic he's in love with. Madly too, he was too focused on River at first to know it, and then too flustered because Kaylee's customs were nearly the opposite of his own. But he's figured it out (Everyone thinks it took him long enough), and he loves her, and he would't trade her and her greasy teddybear coveralls for all the frippery in the world. It hurts him though to not go back to Osiris, because he had a very close relationship with his father that was ultimately ruined when he decided that River was in peril. He wishes he could go home and explain face to face, but a letter at Yuletide with no return address is all that he can suffice. As for what he chooses, my arc takes the crew out of the black, and his choice to stay with them leads him into having to further adapt to the rim. He does mention it in his letter, honestly, but tells his family how rewarding he has found it to be.
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2. If Inara does get with Mal, will she remain a companion? We're obviously supposed to assume that the two of them get together, and as a good observation i read in one of the "Subtle observations" threads said, when she isn't wearing any makeup in the final scene of BDM it shows she is sort of in "home" mode instead of companion-mode, so we can kind of assume she's done being a companion. But then what would her role be on the ship?

After the events of the Miranda video, Inara was called back to the Sihnon Guildhouse for an Evaluation due to the fact that she was apart of the group the released said video. After much deliberation, the Guild took away her registration and stripped her of her title, leaving her jobless. With chin held high she didn't tell the crew, nor Mal, but moved in permanently and began a very awkward, often heated relationship with Captain Reynolds. They had been hot and cold for so long, they struggled to find a comfortable medium. It didn't help that Mal had been hurt before, and Inara had never been in a real relationship.
Serenity was also infamous from the video, and that w

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Friday, January 2, 2009 6:08 PM

Excellent post man, thanks.

One question though,

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It also caught Serenity in the spotlight long enough to the point of others in the theiving circuit refuse to do business with them.


So in your fic it actually hurt their reputation? I would think that most people would look up to Serenity as heroes for it, or maybe they still do, it's just that it makes them wanted more than ever and therefore people don't want to get involved with one of, if not the most wanted crew in the universe?

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Friday, January 2, 2009 6:33 PM

I figure, in regards to whether people would know who perpetrated the broadcast, that the crew would know better than to tell anyone. Alliance government would probably consider their actions in the BDM terrorism, and people knowing would make their lives and the lives of their contacts a little too interesting.

But there'd be plenty who could figure it out, wouldn't be hard.

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Friday, January 2, 2009 7:20 PM

Way I see it, the Alliance isn't *actively* searching for Simon and River - or anyone who bore any part of getting the word out about Miranda and the Pax - but they're not exactly NOT worrying about them, either. As FMF said, Alliance ain't exactly forgiving. They might not make a fuss, but they'd dearly love to get even. Can't unring a bell, but you can make whomever rang it damned sorry they did.

As for whether any of the crew would be trying to take credit for The Signal: Only one of them would. Jayne. He'd be trading tales of the adventure all over the 'verse for drinks and "companionship" - and it would cause the rest of the crew no end of trouble.

As for riots and revolutions, don't bet on it. The Alliance is going to be quick to downplay the broadcast as a phony, and they're going to do everything they can to dissuade folk from looking too much deeper into their version of history. And besides, do you REALLY want to go exploring in Reaver Territory? Where's that get fun?

Inara: She is what she is. I don't see her stopping her whoring ways, any more than I see Mal stopping his criminal ways. They might get together, but I bet it's not for long. Neither one of them is going to be comfortable for very long with what the other one does for a living, and neither of them seems really eager to switch occupations.

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Friday, January 2, 2009 7:46 PM

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The Alliance is going to be quick to downplay the broadcast as a phony,



Ah that's a good point, i hadn't thought about the possibility of them doing that.

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