Where the crew stands on a couple of things post-BDM

POSTED BY: UndaFiya
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TUJIAOZUO

Friday, January 2, 2009 8:36 PM

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Originally posted by UndaFiya:
Excellent post man, thanks.

One question though,

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It also caught Serenity in the spotlight long enough to the point of others in the theiving circuit refuse to do business with them.

So in your fic it actually hurt their reputation? I would think that most people would look up to Serenity as heroes for it, or maybe they still do, it's just that it makes them wanted more than ever and therefore people don't want to get involved with one of, if not the most wanted crew in the universe?

On top of the broadcast, the Operative slaughtered all of the contacts that would take them into hinding. That got around fast too in the theiving circuit. And honestly if you were an illegit business fella would you really want to work with a bunch of crooks who's friends and fellow theives were killed by the feds simply because they wanted to flush out said crew? It's a bit too risky.

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Ash

BYTEMITE

Friday, January 2, 2009 11:59 PM

I dunno, Inara does seem to enjoy turning the tables on Saffron in Trash, and in the next episode she's trying to convince Mal to let her help find a buyer for the lassiter. He actually had to draw a line on that, such was her enthusiasm. I think she likes the excitement of petty theft more than she lets on, and would make a fair outlaw if given the chance.

Much like I don't think Mal actually has an issue with whores or companions, I don't think Inara has an issue with less-legitimate jobs. Rather, I think Mal's problem is that Inara is a companion, and Inara's problem is that it's Mal putting himself in danger.

PLATONIST

Saturday, January 3, 2009 2:46 AM

Strangely, I always think it's Inara who wants to be the outlaw, too, but Mal won't let her because her professional reputation would be stake (ya know the one he looks down on and abhors) And, doesn’t she spring Zoe and Mal out of jail under the pretense of them being her runaway servants in the Train Job?

And, nether one wants the other to be hurt, shot or discredited in anyway; the sacrificial love thingy the show was so good at exploring.

WYTCHCROFT

Saturday, January 3, 2009 4:47 AM

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Originally posted by UndaFiya:
Excellent post man, thanks.

One question though,

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It also caught Serenity in the spotlight long enough to the point of others in the theiving circuit refuse to do business with them.

So in your fic it actually hurt their reputation? I would think that most people would look up to Serenity as heroes for it, or maybe they still do, it's just that it makes them wanted more than ever and therefore people don't want to get involved with one of, if not the most wanted crew in the universe?

think about it - The Operative burned all the safe zones and who nows how many 'thieves' in the process....

also - i just bumped some threads, most of the excellent contributors have also tackled post-bdm issues and it's well worth giving them a click and following their trails.

NCBROWNCOAT

Saturday, January 3, 2009 6:56 AM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
I dunno, Inara does seem to enjoy turning the tables on Saffron in Trash, and in the next episode she's trying to convince Mal to let her help find a buyer for the lassiter. He actually had to draw a line on that, such was her enthusiasm. I think she likes the excitement of petty theft more than she lets on, and would make a fair outlaw if given the chance.

Much like I don't think Mal actually has an issue with whores or companions, I don't think Inara has an issue with less-legitimate jobs. Rather, I think Mal's problem is that Inara is a companion, and Inara's problem is that it's Mal putting himself in danger.

Bytemite, I think you have figured out Mal and Inara. Mal had no problem with Nandi's profession of whore what so ever. And even avails himself of some of the "trade". It's the fact Inara is the companion that irks him.

Inara is more than a bit protective of Mal and I don't know if she could cope with him getting hurt so bad that he does or almost dies.

As to Inara as a petty thief, she would be a good one. Companions practice deception all the time and she's quick with a psychological read of a person and knows how to use her "assets" to get what she wants.

Add to that an ability to drive a hard bargain (see her negotiation with Mal in OOG about the rental price for the shuttle)and her ability to use words to get herself or the crew out of a jam using her wits (her TTJ rescue of Mal and Zoe for instance) I think she'd be an awesome but inexperienced petty thief (likely quickly remedied).

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RALLEM

Saturday, January 3, 2009 11:40 AM

It is my opinion that many of the fan fiction stories out there are great, but they are in no way stories written by Josh Whedon, and should not be taken as a even a possibility let alone a probability of becoming what Josh would have written or would write. There may be important points in many of the fan fiction stories which are either the same or are similar to what Josh Whedon would have written had he gone on, or will write if a miracle occurs, but I doubt any of the fan fiction stories will hit what occurs in the Firefly Universe dead on.

My opinion as to what will happen to Simon, River and the rest of the crew of Serenity after the leak of the Miranda video, is that Simon and River would not be hunted by Bounty Hunters any more, but any alliance patrol Serenity comes upon or any core world they might land on would immediately arrest them all for treason. I think the crew of Serenity would have to travel to a corner of the galaxy with the least amount of alliance control as possible and hide there for quite a while until time heals the alliance’s wounds enough to where they could fly the skies again under aliases.

As far as Mal and Inara’s future, I would like to think that the two got married and had children together, but I doubt that would have happened that way because the two had a volatile relationship at best. I think something like a wedding tying either of them down would be a death nail for their relationship.

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GWEK

Sunday, January 4, 2009 12:16 AM

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Great, yeah i looked over the stillflying.net website briefly and i really liked what i read. Didn't see it go post-BDM but i can still dig it.

Yeah, we've only gotten to a fleshed-out version of the motion picture so far. Season Three (coming later this year) will address the post-Miranda exploits of the crew, and will definitely address questions like "What happens with Mal and Inara now?" and "Will the Tams go home?"

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KWICKO

Sunday, January 4, 2009 12:30 AM

I'd like to think that Mal and Inara did indeed get together, but they're both strong people, and neither are too keen on quitting their day jobs just because someone else told them to. So I think they'd have a passionate, albeit short-lived affair, after which they'd have to find a way to still work together.

And yeah, I don't think Mal has a problem with the CONCEPT of companions or whores - I just think he has a problem with INARA doing any type of such work. It's the Madonna/whore conundrum. Lots of men like going to the strip club, but no one wants their girlfriend, daughter, mom, or sister to work there. Objectively, Mal realizes that it's a legitimate line of work, and a useful one at times (useful even to him, on occasion), but subjectively, he still thinks it's all a bit seedy, and "beneath" anyone he could love.

And I think that Inara would make an amazing thief. She's schooled in things Mal can't even comprehend; she knows strategy and tactics for people better than he knows them for war! In no time, she'd be lining up jobs and setting up plans that would have them all rich, unless Mal or Jayne found a way to "improvise" and screw up the jobs. :)

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

BYTEMITE

Sunday, January 4, 2009 12:49 AM

Yeah, I could see that. Neither strike me as the "lovey dovey forever" marriage type. On again and off again more like, depending on whatever it is they're currently fighting about. Always as bewildering and frustrating as it was on day one, and yet, they work together and get along well when they want to. Some margin of understanding, but never complete understanding.

UNDAFIYA

Sunday, January 4, 2009 6:41 PM

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Originally posted by GWEK:
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Originally posted by UndaFiya:
Great, yeah i looked over the stillflying.net website briefly and i really liked what i read. Didn't see it go post-BDM but i can still dig it.

Yeah, we've only gotten to a fleshed-out version of the motion picture so far. Season Three (coming later this year) will address the post-Miranda exploits of the crew, and will definitely address questions like "What happens with Mal and Inara now?" and "Will the Tams go home?"

Cool, i look forward to it.

Okay so based on all of the responses i think this is how i would personally set the post-BDM situation:

Simon doesn't actually go back to his parents, i agree with the idea of him contacting them through a letter with no return address. The Alliance has given up the hot pursuit of them, but they're not exactly off the hook either.

I agree that Mal and Inara try to be in a close relationship but learn that they can't hold it permanently and go to a sort of on-off mode. I also agree that Inara would in fact be useful and a good criminal. (also she is not a companion anymore)

The broadcast does make things extremely difficult for Serenity, they have to occupy themselves some other way for awhile before things get a little better. But eventually, they're able to get back on track. (and the Alliance tries to play the video off as a phony as Kwicko suggested)

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