Question: Now that expensive militaristic fascism is going out, will these boards still retain their vitriol?

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Originally posted by SignyM:

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committing to each other and resulting in children.

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So infertile people can't marry, and lonely widows and widowers can't remarry?

This just keeps getting better'n better.

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Let's party like its 1929.

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You don't read very well, do you ?



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

By your reasoning, so does Obama, as he's against gays marrying as well.

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Hitler loved using strawman arguments to make his points...

Mein Kamph much, AU?

Goosesteppinfetchitisall

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Translation of Funeral Article in Egyptian Paper:
al-Wafd, Wednesday, December 26, 2001 Vol 15 No 4633
News of Bin Laden's Death
and Funeral 10 days ago

Islamabad -
A prominent official in the Afghan Taleban movement announced yesterday the death of Osama bin Laden, the chief of al-Qa'da organization, stating that binLaden suffered serious complications in the lungs and died a natural and quiet death. The official, who asked to remain anonymous, stated to The Observer of Pakistan that he had himself attended the funeral of bin Laden and saw his face prior to burial in Tora Bora 10 days ago. He mentioned that 30 of al-Qa'da fighters attended the burial as well as members of his family and some friends from the Taleban. In the farewell ceremony to his final rest guns were fired in the air. The official stated that it is difficult to pinpoint the burial location of bin Laden because according to the Wahhabi tradition no mark is left by the grave. He stressed that it is unlikely that the American forces would ever uncover any traces of bin Laden.

Magazine runs what it calls bin Laden's will
http://edition.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/10/26/binladen.will/

Karzai: bin Laden 'probably' dead
http://edition.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/central/10/06/karzai.binlade
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All accounts put his time of death between Dec 15-18, 2001, most of them from various sources unlikely to share that with each other.

http://uniorb.com/RCHECK/deadbinladen.htm
This article names other confirmed info with cites for UPI, CBS and CNN confirming that OBL was indeed about half-dead already, in end stage renal failure, needing dialysis and unable to move one arm from neuro damage caused by a stroke.

And when we bombed the everliving shit out of tora-bora over the week of Dec 14th 2001, there went his water supply and he was allegedy wounded in the leg - this is presuming we didn't damage the machine, without power and clean water, there's no way he could have used it and would have expired soon thereafter, given they we KNOW he didn't have power cause he was unable to transmit radio messages after the 14th.

Which meant either he could not power it, and would then have died without his machines, or that he was already dead, if we hit the radio, which he was so fond of practically sitting on since it kept his tent warm and he liked to hear himself talk... we probably hit HIM, and badly.

How long do you think he woulda made it, wounded, without his machines, water or power, only able to use one arm and up in the freakin mountains with no medical supplies worth a mention ?

Fact is, for what it's worth, we did "get him" but nobody wants to admit that cause he's too useful as a boogeyman to keep holding up to try and scare us with.

The question you really wanna ask yourself, Mikey...

Is whether our intel folk are so incompetent as to be regularly outdone by a damn cabbie...

Or whether they are actively and maliciously lying and shovelling bullshit as a modus operandi.

Cause if it's the first, what the hell do they need all that money and power for, hire me and fire them! - do wonders for the budget, neh ?

And if it's the second, who's the real terrorists ?

Something to think about, yes ?

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I'm sorry, but the construct of marriage, 1 man + 1 woman, is far more important than gays feelings of wanting acceptance, which is all this is about.

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What makes this construct of marriage important? The possibility of children ONLY? Or is it the voluntary legal union of two people, creating a small cell of human community that is based in choice rather than biology? Do you consider marriages that do not result in children failures? Do you consider children born outside of marriage illegitimate? And what about adoption? If gays adopt, will they be allowd to call it marriage? Or wouldn't adopted children count because they wouldn't have been the direct result of the marriage, only be lovingly raised by people who couldn't have them together biologically?

Is family your main motive here, or is it exclusion?

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Marriage, which by it's very definition means a man and a woman , committing to each other and resulting in children is something which predates religion and may very well be a pillar of civilization itself, setting us apart from the animal kingdom.

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So marriage is all about biology now? I guess we should strike these words, then: "To have and to hold, from this day forward, for better for worse, for richer for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish, till death us do part."

Why doesn't this mention the babies that are to result? Is it because - oh - not the production of babies is the point, but to raise them in a stable household and family, should there be any?

Marriage has been around for a long time, but it had to be modified a lot in order to become the thing most people value today.

Consent was added. Minimum age requirements were added. Restrictions were lifted. Cultural perceptions shifted from considering it a purely economic contract (There was once a time before birth control. There was once a time when women couldn't support themselves.) to an economic contract that should be based on love.

Why impose artificial restrictions on something that meets the criteria: love, committment, possible intention of raising children together?

Men and women can make babies together inside and outside of marriage. But loving parents come in all kinds of combos.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Dude, I am a fuckin cab driver from detroit with a high school education, how the FUCK is it that I routinely outpredict, and find the flaws and bullshit in our highly trained, highly paid intel staffs work in spite of them being supposedly any good at it ?

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A cab driver from Detroit with a high school education...boy they could never hope to put one over on you...and all this time I thought you were some crazy barber...

(You have access to a car and are still in Detroit...clearly your world view is limited at best.)

H

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I did not see the compliment there till now, Whodied, and I thank you for it...

But I think that matter is more a feat of having their own crooked, greedy little plan backfire on em due to badly misunderstanding the nature of the person they set up as a cats paw.

Kind of a reverse peter principle, if you will, they thought they were installing a madman to create a fiasco they could then ride to the rescue in resolving, only to find out that once you put the lion IN the cage...

How you gonna get him out if he refuses to leave ?

Poor bastards, they're takin it well enough though.

-F

PS - Ok, I could get to liking this guy.. yer right, similar indeed.
http://www.textfiles.com/humor/llong.hum

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You don't read very well, do you ?

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Well, truth be told, you don't WRITE very well, either. You never actually answered my question. By your "textbook definition" of marriage, am I married or not, in your book? I've got a wife, I'm male, she's female, yet we joined together and did not have children.

So are we now required to be "unmarried" from each other? Is there a civil or religious ceremony for that? Will there be cake? Last time there was cake.

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