Question: Now that expensive militaristic fascism is going out, will these boards still retain their vitriol?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Friday, September 19, 2025 19:30
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:Never saw Diamonds Are Forever, eh?
Originally posted by WASHnwear:
Uh..."impotent beach boys"?
It was a term Blofeld used for ineffective peeps or governments.
Double D'ohisall
Sorry, man - I have never been quite the gonzo Bond fan that I should be. I have seen DAF but it's been a long ol' time. I read "beach boys" and all I could think of was...well, The Beach Boys. Heard and read a lot about them, but couldn't recall specific charges of impotence.
It was like that when we got here!
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I doubt that he'll pre-emptively invade another country on a wing & a prayer, if that means anything to ya.
But he'll go anywhere to catch and kill Bin Laden - even into other countries - even without permission. Lots of military adventurism can be done without an actual invasion.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Fremmy, you are absolutely right about the piece of paper - it is only as strong as the people who are WILLING to fight for the ideals behind it.
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They only thing that makes the Government obey and respect that document is US, we the people, particularly the ones willing to act to enforce it often at great personal risk, which is barely mitigated by the fact that they just MIGHT be able to defend themselves
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The people have to see what's going on and be able to determine for themselves the reality of the situation. What I was referring to was those that blindly believe what they are told without looking long and hard at the facts of a situation. Education, and I don't mean schooling, but getting to the truth of the matter is key. What good does it do to have a gun to defend that which you have no clue about.
Yes, that did "dare", those who became known as Neocons used FEAR to steer and guide public opinion without firing a single shot, and we got what is known as the Patriot Act. We had American soldiers eavesdropping in on telephone conversations of American Soldiers stationed overseas, all in the name of stemming the tide of terrorism. But what good does it do to listen in on, what amounted to, phone-sex calls to girlfriends and lovers.
Some 5% of the calls that were intercepted actually led to terrorist counterintelligence. The jackboot horde have already creeped into our daily lives and have taken over, with our ignorance and with our help.
But here's a statement you made that makes me think that I probably was not clear in my little soapbox rant.
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But it's just a tool, in the end the real weapon is us, the people, and our will - the tool, like any good tool, simply multiplies it's force when it is engaged.
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This is exactly what I was driving at. That We, as a people, must put the feet to the fire of the "leaders" of this country to keep them in check regarding the basic freedoms in the Constitution.
(I'm a little groggy, I'm going to take a break).
Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.
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Quote:Yes.
Originally posted by AURaptor:I'm " mean spirited " because I agree that marriage is defined as 1 man + 1 woman, or that at some point
Quote:Fetus's in the first trimester don't have a right to life, only if Mom says so. The Supreme court agrees. Save your murdered suffering babies poppycock drama for idiots without enough IQ to see through it.
Originally posted by AURaptor: we all have a right to life?
Do gay babies have a right to life? That means they're humans then, all other humans get to marry? You think being gay is wrong AURaptor don't you?, this has nothing to do with marriage, it's about denying gays human rights because you don't approve of gays, your a victim of your own lack of self awareness, shame on you
Quote:Thats Bill O'Reilly's and the stump speech of Conservative media's argument, We won't be diverted into an undeserved conflict with blacks. the difference between blacks voting for prop 8 is that unlike polygamist filthy bigoted Mormons, blacks didn't contribute 20 million dollars and campaign resources to Prop 8 while ripping off taxpayers with thier tax exemption and violation of 2 of the IRS criteria that must be adhered to for tax exempt status.
Originally posted by AURaptor:Wow. I got news for you, this so called island you speak of? Has routinely voted for the definition of marriage, across the nation. Doesn't in the least mean we're oppressing anyone. Hard for gays to compare themselves w/ the black civil rights crowd when they have every right anyone else has, and when blacks vote 70-80 % with Republicans on this one.
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Quote:Hope that denial works for you. You'll really need it after a few more years.
Originally posted by AURaptor: We're no more 'mean spirited' to Gays than we are to polygamist or those who wish to marry another species. Get over it, move on. There's nothing to gain here.
The last human rights oppression ballot measure passed by 22 points. Prop 8 passed by only 4 points. Gay marriage is being accepted more and more worldwide. In less that ten years gays will have a full set of human rights everywhere. Most likely after some genetic breakthrough proves how moronic people who think gay is a "choice" are.
AURaptor...you're analogous to the bigot that didn't want blacks to get married to whites in the 60's. They said they were preserving marriage. Filthy bigots apparently don't realize when they are one. Thats another reason I forgive you. You're just on the wrong side of progress. They'll make inspirational movies in the future and guys like you will be the bad guys.
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Quote:Wow, MBIL, you really suffer self-righteous dweebs badly, don't you?
Originally posted by MalBadInLatin:
Filthy bigots apparently don't realize when they are one.
Chrisisall
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Originally posted by Hero:Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I know... sick, isn't it? Peru was willing to give the Obama family a free, purebread, non-allergenic puppy for free and he feels the need to buy a "mutt" when we're all scraping the bottom of the barrel for some algae to feed on...
That Peruvian dog had no hair. Dogs should have hair...and I foster puppies for a local NFP Animal Rescue group. I'm sure that somewhere out there is just the right puppy that they can rescue. Some kind of 'oodle' mix would be fine. I'd suggest a matched pair of rescued Malti-poos, rescued from a puppy mill of course, so they can highlight the horrible practices those places have.
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Oh... come on now. I actually say some things that I know make sense to you and you only comment on my dog joke?
"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack
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Quote:I'm actualy holding back 90% of what I want to say and 40% of what I'd like to do. But there is this whole law and order thing, and forum rules too. I have gay relatives, it's my kryptonite, So...
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Wow, MBIL, you really suffer self-righteous dweebs badly, don't you?
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Somebody tell me where this says 1 man + 1 woman?
Marriage Law
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B. Marriage as a State Concern.
Marriage in the United States is defined by the laws of each of the 50 states. It is wellestablished
that "there is no federal law of domestic relations, which is primarily a matter of
state concern."9
Marriage, as creating the most important relation in life, as having more to do
with the morals and civilization of a people than any other institution, has always
been subject to the control of the legislature. . . .10
States enjoy exclusive authority over family law . . . because of the fundamental
role of localism in the federal design. The theory of localism presented here
rests on the view that the law of domestic relations necessarily promotes a
shared moral vision of the good family life . . . . Legal decision-makers confront
fundamental questions concerning the meaning of parenthood, the best custodial
placements for children, the rights and obligations of marriage, the financial
terms of divorce, and the standards governing foster care and adoption. In
answering such questions, state legislatures and courts draw upon community
values and norms on the meaning of the good life for families and children.11
C. Marriage as a Fundamental Right, Constitutional Protection.
While states may impose marriage regulations, because marriage is a fundamental
right,12 these regulations are subject to constitutional limitations and those regulations that
significantly interfere with the exercise of marriage are subject to strict scrutiny.
By reaffirming the fundamental character of the right to marry, we do not
mean to suggest that every state regulation which relates in any way to the
incidents of or prerequisites for marriage must be subjected to rigorous scrutiny.
To the contrary, reasonable regulations that do not significantly interfere with
decisions to enter into the marital relationship may legitimately be imposed
(citation omitted).
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When a statutory classification significantly interferes with the exercise of a
fundamental right, it cannot be upheld unless it is supported by sufficiently
important state interests and is closely tailored to effectuate only those
interests.13
D. Marriage as a Public Contract.
From the state's perspective, marriage is a contractual relationship between two
parties that vests the parties with a new legal status. Unlike other contracts, however, the
new status created by the marriage contract cannot be terminated at will by the parties, but
only as provided by the law of the state, thereby making the state a third party to any
marriage.
9 De Sylva v. Ballentine, 351 U.S. 570, 580 (1956).
10 Maynard at 205.
11 Anne C. Dailey, Federalism and Families, 143 U. Pa. L. Rev. 1787, 1790 (1995).
12 See Loving at 12, Griswold v. Connecticut, 381 U.S. 479, 495-96, 499 (1965), and Carey v. Population Services International, 431 U.S.
678, 685 (1977).
13 Zablocki at 386-88.
Marriage Law
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It is also to be observed that, while marriage is often termed by text writers and in
decisions of courts as a civil contract, generally to indicate that it must be
founded upon the agreement of the parties, and does not require any religious
ceremony for its solemnization, it is something more than a mere contract. The
consent of the parties is of course essential to its existence, but when the
contract to marry is executed by the marriage, a relation between the parties is
created which they cannot change. Other contracts may be modified, restricted,
enlarged, or entirely released upon the consent of the parties. Not so with
marriage. The relation once formed, the law steps in and holds the parties to
various obligations and liabilities.14
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"We don't fear the reaper"
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Quote:Obama is not against gays though. 90% of the people against gay marriage hate gays, they've been told to say it's about tradition but it's not. Those are the people I would love to send away to see the bad man in the corn field. (see Billy Mumy, Twilight Zone)
Originally posted by out2theblack:
For your own 'protection' , we've informed the Secret Service just how much you're liking the new President-elect..
Not Obama.
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Quote:Wait a minute there, peeps that want others to live the way they want them to deserve to have the freedom of choice to hold that belief....
Originally posted by MalBadInLatin:
90% of the people against gay marriage hate gays
er...
I believe there is a flaw in that statement....
Chrisisall
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